Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:48 AM Re: ? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Was it a 'big boom', or just some temporary dizziness? ;-). > -tim- > > No problem..I hope you are feeling better :>)) > -geo- I hope you're feeling better, too. Thanks...a bit, yea. Lets call it dunnowhat maraton, :>) No way bbb will beat us......by far. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > I hope you're feeling better, too. > > Thanks...a bit, yea. Lets call it dunnowhat maraton, :>) > No way bbb will beat us......by far. > -geo- Sounds good... the one who knows the least, wins. Whoever forgets everything and never even shows up to post, wins the big kahuna, the grand prize: Nothing ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > If it is a belief then this al-one-ness is not being realized but believed. > > The result may be lonelyness. > > -geo- > > Loneliness comes from avoiding aloneness. One wants to escape it. > > That's all it is. So simple. come again? only the lonely avoid aloneness? the lonely are lonely in their aloneness even in a crowd. you've got it bass ackwards. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, an " I " certainly would ;-). > > -tim- > > > > This out of context, tim. > > I am the context, not the text. > > > I was questioning dan about him saying that bbb > > has or not insight, or people in lists (his words). > > Questioning Dan is questioning yourself. Seriously. Honest. > > > But....for example...if I read teh words " I believe in the > > ground " ....well.....I know the writer has no insight. > > Because Geo doesn't " feel " insight when reading those words. > > If Geo " feels " insight, the belief is that the " other " has insight. > > But it was always/only Geo's insight. > > > In other words he is > > being conceptual. > > No, you are 'feeling conceptual' when reading the words. > > > No need for an I here to see that. Quite the opposite. > > -geo- > > If ya say so. It's your game, God. funny and strange but that's true. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > If it is a belief then this al-one-ness is not being realized but believed. > > > The result may be lonelyness. > > > -geo- > > > > Loneliness comes from avoiding aloneness. One wants to escape it. > > > > That's all it is. So simple. > > > come again? > > only the lonely avoid aloneness? > > the lonely are lonely in their aloneness even in a crowd. Especially in a crowd. Because one is in a crowd to avoid aloneness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > If I am reading and having insight I am able to identify words as > > being > > conceptual - then there is no belief for geo. > > Is one even aware of oneself while reading? > > Or is one's mind all " out there " with others, imagining to feel their feelings and think their thoughts? > > > If geo is not having insight he is not able to discern anything > > correctly. > > When projecting " others " , " oneself " is out of touch (thus, a sense of relief from oneself). > > When projecting " oneself " , " others " are out of touch (thus, loneliness). > > See how this works? > > The only " solution " is to stop investing in the game. > > Allow the whole kit 'n kaboodle to drop away. > > Now. shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. look.. you are here. you are a flesh and blood body. you are going to live and die. you will be forgotten. it doesn't matter. there is no Big Secret. this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. it's fucking make believe. but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. but it's a bullshit belief. don't tell dn. he doesn't listen anyway. he's the biggest Make Believer of All. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Re: ? > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > If that is what you (in my world) feel that should do...then you (in > my > > world) do it. > > No... by speaking to Tim as though he's separate (he can feel he should do something, etc), one still imagines something outside one's own world. > > > Here there is no projecting others out of my world. All > > otheres are in my world. > > -geo- > > By imagining oneself as a body, one gets the wrong impression. > > Geo's body is in Geo's world. > > Tim's body is in Geo's world. > > When it's clear that the body and world are in Geo, rather than Geo being in them, all is clear. you both are in Disney World. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > look.. > > you are here. > > you are a flesh and blood body. No, I am not a body. I am what sees the body. > you are going to live and die. I am neither going to live, nor die. Nor am I alive or dead. > you will be forgotten. I was never known at all. People see only themselves. > it doesn't matter. > > there is no Big Secret. > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > it's fucking make believe. Yes, all this talk is pretentious. Only the truth is, and it's non-verbal. > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. It doesn't. I can't believe anything anymore. > but it's a bullshit belief. > > don't tell dn. > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > LOL! He's not a make-believer, he's make-believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > you both are in Disney World. > > .b b.b. Are you mickey mouse, then? ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > funny. > > > > > > ain't that the truth ... > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > yes it is. > > > > i am astonished that this first of the little truths.. > > > > has made it through that hammerhead. > > > > .b b.b. > > The 'hammerhead' is imaginary, and so is he. > > The imaginer is that which is imagined. lose that soapy and sappy pseudo philosophy. eat your gruel.. wash your hands and your bowl. clean out your ears and your bowels. stop imagining silly shit and thinkig it profound. it's not. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > lose that soapy and sappy pseudo philosophy. > > eat your gruel.. > > wash your hands and your bowl. > > clean out your ears and your bowels. > > stop imagining silly shit and thinkig it profound. > > it's not. > > .b b.b. Actually, I agree, it's imaginary silly shit :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:48 AM > Re: ? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Was it a 'big boom', or just some temporary dizziness? ;-). > > -tim- > > > > No problem..I hope you are feeling better :>)) > > -geo- > > I hope you're feeling better, too. > > Thanks...a bit, yea. Lets call it dunnowhat maraton, :>) > No way bbb will beat us......by far. > -geo- oh so that's what you boys are playing. no fucking wonder i see you as losers. " beat us " ???? at what? posting? i knew there must be a reason you were here. it sure as hell isn't for enlightening. it's for make believe: " we are not..yet we are Glorious in that is-notness. " give your heads a shake boys. it's not a numbers game. and you talk nonsense. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If it is a belief then this al-one-ness is not being realized but believed. > > > > The result may be lonelyness. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > Loneliness comes from avoiding aloneness. One wants to escape it. > > > > > > That's all it is. So simple. > > > > > > come again? > > > > only the lonely avoid aloneness? > > > > the lonely are lonely in their aloneness even in a crowd. > > Especially in a crowd. > > Because one is in a crowd to avoid aloneness. yeah.. those people in downtown Manhattan..Bagdad..Kabul..Tehran.. all trying to avoid aloneness. sure. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > oh so that's what you boys are playing. > > no fucking wonder i see you as losers. You see us as losers, because you see yourself as a loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > yeah.. > > those people in downtown Manhattan..Bagdad..Kabul..Tehran.. > > all trying to avoid aloneness. > > sure. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. " The crowd " represents " other " , " otherness " . That creates self. And self is all alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > shit you're starting to get " dan " -infected. > > > > look.. > > > > you are here. > > > > you are a flesh and blood body. > > No, I am not a body. I am what sees the body. > > > you are going to live and die. > > I am neither going to live, nor die. > > Nor am I alive or dead. > > > you will be forgotten. > > I was never known at all. > > People see only themselves. > > > it doesn't matter. > > > > there is no Big Secret. > > > > this no-self..no-world..no me..no you crap is phony. > > > > it's fucking make believe. > > Yes, all this talk is pretentious. Only the truth is, and it's non-verbal. > > > but believe it if it gets you through the lonely night. > > It doesn't. I can't believe anything anymore. > > > but it's a bullshit belief. > > > > don't tell dn. > > > > he doesn't listen anyway. > > > > he's the biggest Make Believer of All. > > > > LOL! > > He's not a make-believer, he's make-believe. that statement is make believe. and i bet his creditors agree with me. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > He's not a make-believer, he's make-believe. > > > that statement is make believe. > > and i bet his creditors agree with me. > > .b b.b. Once again, assuming identification with a body was intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > you both are in Disney World. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Are you mickey mouse, then? ;-). > > > > i'm not there with you kids. > > but i see you've found a hero for you and danny. Yep. Mickey's my hero. > good stuff! > > a big mouse for a couple of small ones. > > cuter than all get out. Yep, we're widdle guys, me and danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > lose that soapy and sappy pseudo philosophy. > > > > eat your gruel.. > > > > wash your hands and your bowl. > > > > clean out your ears and your bowels. > > > > stop imagining silly shit and thinkig it profound. > > > > it's not. > > > > .b b.b. > > Actually, I agree, it's imaginary silly shit :-). it doesn't require your agreement dan.. oh wait.. it's tim.. see there timmy..i told you.. you're getting dan's dis-ease. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > lose that soapy and sappy pseudo philosophy. > > > > > > eat your gruel.. > > > > > > wash your hands and your bowl. > > > > > > clean out your ears and your bowels. > > > > > > stop imagining silly shit and thinkig it profound. > > > > > > it's not. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Actually, I agree, it's imaginary silly shit :-). > > > it doesn't require your agreement dan.. > > oh wait.. > > it's tim.. > > see there timmy..i told you.. > > you're getting dan's dis-ease. > > .b b.b. I'm completely at ease. No wait, I'm dis-eased. No, wait. Who is this " I " , anyway? Oh yeah... I've never bothered to look into it. That's why I'm so dis-eased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > it doesn't require your agreement dan.. > > oh wait.. > > it's tim.. > > see there timmy..i told you.. > > you're getting dan's dis-ease. > > .b b.b. I'm completely at ease. No, wait, I'm dis-eased. Guess I never bothered to look into who/what this " I " thingie is. That must be why I'm dis-eased. Right now, I'm Bob, all the way. I've got the Bob-dis-ease. It pukes all over mailing lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > oh so that's what you boys are playing. > > > > no fucking wonder i see you as losers. > > You see us as losers, because you see yourself as a loser. you do this rote bullshit stuff all the time. well young Junior Freud.. you're so wrong you couldn't be more so. and you can't stand that. you can't stand that i don't see me as you do.. you can't stand that i don't see you as you do. you can't stand that i am not a loser. and that's what makes you a loser. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > oh so that's what you boys are playing. > > > > > > no fucking wonder i see you as losers. > > > > You see us as losers, because you see yourself as a loser. > > > you do this rote bullshit stuff all the time. And you read it, all the time. Eat up. Enjoy. All yours. All you, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > yeah.. > > > > > > those people in downtown Manhattan..Bagdad..Kabul..Tehran.. > > > > > > all trying to avoid aloneness. > > > > > > sure. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > " The crowd " represents " other " , " otherness " . > > > > That creates self. > > > > And self is all alone. > > > well of course self is alone. > > do you have friends on board? Well, Dan said I was funny, once... and Tim said he likes me once or twice, although I don't believe him, cuz I'm really such a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > He's not a make-believer, he's make-believe. > > > > > > that statement is make believe. > > > > and i bet his creditors agree with me. > > > > .b b.b. > > Once again, assuming identification with a body was intended. well of course i too am in 7th heaven. Above the fray and hoopla. I AM HOLY like you. holey without the holes of course. and besides none of us " are " . even the bodies that are unidentified with are unreal. yes we as the unreal are better unreals than the unreal bodies. assume this: you're full of it.. add your own " sh " . ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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