Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 omkaradatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > The moment problems are not taken as " other " , to be eliminated, > > They go away. > > Problems have no " problemness " at all. > > Their " otherness " is the problem. > > --- End forwarded message --- The imagined presence of " problems to be solved " maintain the imagined solver of those problems. Problems are not apart from the perceiver of problems. Be the problem. Be the question. Rest here. There is nowhere else to go, honest. There is no answer to the question you are. And no question about the answer you are. Rest here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch wrote: > > omkaradatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The moment problems are not taken as " other " , to be eliminated, > > > > They go away. > > > > Problems have no " problemness " at all. > > > > Their " otherness " is the problem. > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > The imagined presence of " problems to be solved " maintain the imagined solver of those problems. > > Problems are not apart from the perceiver of problems. > > Be the problem. Be the question. Rest here. > > There is nowhere else to go, honest. > > There is no answer to the question you are. > > And no question about the answer you are. > > Rest here. it may not be good to just sit on your ass.... ..................here. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > it may not be good to just sit on your ass.... > > .................here. > > .b b.b. Well, the ass can hurt from doing it too long, but otherwise one place is as good as another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > it may not be good to just sit on your ass.... > > > > .................here. > > > > .b b.b. > > Well, the ass can hurt from doing it too long, but otherwise one place is as good as another. there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. if that's ok with you.. any here will do.. than be our guest.. sit down...hard.....here. it won't hurt. you're not real after all. as Elvis said: " uh huh " . ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. > > if that's ok with you.. > > any here will do.. > > than be our guest.. > > sit down...hard.....here. > > it won't hurt. > > you're not real after all. I'm not a body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. > > > > if that's ok with you.. > > > > any here will do.. > > > > than be our guest.. > > > > sit down...hard.....here. > > > > it won't hurt. > > > > you're not real after all. > > I'm not a body. well sit that body in boiling water. now tell me it's not you. get real or get lost. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > I'm not a body. > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > now tell me it's not you. Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > get real or get lost. I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > get real or get lost. > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. you just got through saying you had no choice. now you say you'll do what you want. sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. just so's you know. although you probably still won't get it. " choose " away. LOL! ..b b.b. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. > > > you just got through saying you had no choice. > > now you say you'll do what you want. I'll do what I do. > sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. > > just so's you know. Well, you'd know... I'll take yer word for it ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. why does it burn? why does it feel cold? if it's not you who the hell is it? of course the water hot or cold doesn't " make " you. where did you get the idea that's what was being said? > > get real or get lost. > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. i read it. it's nonsense. you're lost... no need for you to go there you're there already. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. > > > > > > you just got through saying you had no choice. > > > > now you say you'll do what you want. > > I'll do what I do. > > > sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. > > > > just so's you know. > > Well, you'd know... I'll take yer word for it ;-). you're not the body. why take my word about what you say is not the case? you're spinning gears and wheels. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. > > > > > > if that's ok with you.. > > > > > > any here will do.. > > > > > > than be our guest.. > > > > > > sit down...hard.....here. > > > > > > it won't hurt. > > > > > > you're not real after all. > > > > I'm not a body. > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > now tell me it's not you. > > get real or get lost. > > .b b.b. the body may contort and yell and scream. that doesn't mean the bottom-line of who one is, is the body. the body is neither affirmed or denied. neither is something else, other than the body, affirmed or denied. there is no point of attachment, nor a point from which to detach. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. > > > you just got through saying you had no choice. > > now you say you'll do what you want. > > sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. except when you do it. you've said the exact same in previous posts. that there is no choice. and that you'll do what you want and no one will tell you what to do. > just so's you know. > > although you probably still won't get it. > > " choose " away. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > > .b b.b. oops, watch those double .b b.b.'s, now. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. > > > > > > > > if that's ok with you.. > > > > > > > > any here will do.. > > > > > > > > than be our guest.. > > > > > > > > sit down...hard.....here. > > > > > > > > it won't hurt. > > > > > > > > you're not real after all. > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > .b b.b. > > > the body may contort and yell and scream. and it would if put in boiling water..or oil. > > that doesn't mean the bottom-line of who one is, is the body. there is no such thing as a bottom line. but it would be your dumb ass bottom getting burned.. if you were dumb enough to try and prove.. that bottom line you were above it all.. and not really the blood and guts body in the bath. go ahead prove me wrong jesus. get hooked up on a cross and tell me " you " don't hurt. bullshit royale. > the body is neither affirmed or denied. LOL! and this cannot be confirmed or denied Perry Mason. just who is the bodiless judge of your opinion here? > > neither is something else, other than the body, affirmed or denied. well that depends on what your definition of is is. you're so full of shit dan. > there is no point of attachment, nor a point from which to detach. > > - d - and there's no point in your trying to bullshit yourself. but you do. you try and bullshit others too. it works on yourself but danny danny danny.. it doesn't work with others and never fucking will kid. i forgive you. you know not what you do. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. > > > > > > you just got through saying you had no choice. > > > > now you say you'll do what you want. > > > > sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. > > except when you do it. > > you've said the exact same in previous posts. > > that there is no choice. > > and that you'll do what you want and no one will tell you what to do. > > > just so's you know. > > > > although you probably still won't get it. > > > > " choose " away. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > .b b.b. > > oops, watch those double .b b.b.'s, now. > > - D - well danny.. pick up on the stuff that's important for you. you can spot those double .b b.b.'s real good hon. and forget about being put in your place. that's your choice and mediocrity. figures. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. > > > > > > > > > > if that's ok with you.. > > > > > > > > > > any here will do.. > > > > > > > > > > than be our guest.. > > > > > > > > > > sit down...hard.....here. > > > > > > > > > > it won't hurt. > > > > > > > > > > you're not real after all. > > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > the body may contort and yell and scream. > > > and it would if put in boiling water..or oil. > > > > > > > > that doesn't mean the bottom-line of who one is, is the body. > > > > there is no such thing as a bottom line. > > but it would be your dumb ass bottom getting burned.. > > if you were dumb enough to try and prove.. > > that bottom line you were above it all.. > > and not really the blood and guts body in the bath. > > go ahead prove me wrong jesus. > > get hooked up on a cross and tell me " you " don't hurt. > > bullshit royale. the " you " is the hurting, in the case you're offering. there isn't any separation of " you " and " hurting " (in this case, the pain of being boiled). so, there is yelling, screaming, boils, blood, eventually death. all of this from/of awareness. appearing to/as awareness. awareness undivided. " I " " hurt " " agony " " body " " water " " fire " all appearing. appearance having no actual division. awareness to which it appears having no actual division. appearance not divided from awareness. these words about it don't convey it and don't matter. just the *is* of it. as it is. however it is. > > the body is neither affirmed or denied. > > > > LOL! > > and this cannot be confirmed or denied Perry Mason. > > just who is the bodiless judge of your opinion here? this has nothing to do with being bodiless. i'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. teachings of " i am not this ... " " i am not that ... " are as limited as any teachings. teachings have their time and place, like anything, and everything. so what? they appear and are gone like any appearance. > > neither is something else, other than the body, affirmed or denied. > > > > well that depends on what your definition of is is. > > you're so full of shit dan. look. the point of this talk is simply that there is no definitive statement of truth to treasure as the truth. it's not rocket science or perry mason, either. > > there is no point of attachment, nor a point from which to detach. > > > > - d - > > > and there's no point in your trying to bullshit yourself. > > but you do. you're misunderstanding. there's not some line of bullshit i'm holding onto. if you detect a line of bullshit being typed, that's your call. however it strikes you. > you try and bullshit others too. > > it works on yourself but danny danny danny.. what self is that, bobby? the one that you boil in water to see it scream, or the one you say doesn't exist? let me get this straight. > it doesn't work with others and never fucking will kid. > > i forgive you. > > you know not what you do. now you're getting all forgiving on me, and shit? sheesh. next you'll actually show some human warmth. ya feelin' lucky, punk? go ahead, make my day. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > > > > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > > > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > > > > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. > > > > > > > > > you just got through saying you had no choice. > > > > > > now you say you'll do what you want. > > > > > > sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. > > > > except when you do it. > > > > you've said the exact same in previous posts. > > > > that there is no choice. > > > > and that you'll do what you want and no one will tell you what to do. > > > > > just so's you know. > > > > > > although you probably still won't get it. > > > > > > " choose " away. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > oops, watch those double .b b.b.'s, now. > > > > - D - > > > well danny.. > > pick up on the stuff that's important for you. > > you can spot those double .b b.b.'s real good hon. > > and forget about being put in your place. > > that's your choice and mediocrity. > > figures. > > .b b.b. yes, it's fun spotting them when they happen. you're going to give up on putting me in my place? what's the temperature in hell, 22 below zero, you say? no shit. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's a fucking sharp needle pointing up....here. > > > > > > > > > > > > if that's ok with you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > any here will do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > than be our guest.. > > > > > > > > > > > > sit down...hard.....here. > > > > > > > > > > > > it won't hurt. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not real after all. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > the body may contort and yell and scream. > > > > > > and it would if put in boiling water..or oil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that doesn't mean the bottom-line of who one is, is the body. > > > > > > > > there is no such thing as a bottom line. > > > > but it would be your dumb ass bottom getting burned.. > > > > if you were dumb enough to try and prove.. > > > > that bottom line you were above it all.. > > > > and not really the blood and guts body in the bath. > > > > go ahead prove me wrong jesus. > > > > get hooked up on a cross and tell me " you " don't hurt. > > > > bullshit royale. > > > the " you " is the hurting, in the case you're offering. > > there isn't any separation of " you " and " hurting " (in this case, the pain of being boiled). > > so, there is yelling, screaming, boils, blood, eventually death. > > all of this from/of awareness. > > appearing to/as awareness. > > awareness undivided. > > " I " " hurt " " agony " " body " " water " " fire " all appearing. > > appearance having no actual division. > > awareness to which it appears having no actual division. > > appearance not divided from awareness. > > these words about it don't convey it and don't matter. > > just the *is* of it. > > as it is. > > however it is. > > > > > the body is neither affirmed or denied. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > and this cannot be confirmed or denied Perry Mason. > > > > just who is the bodiless judge of your opinion here? > > > this has nothing to do with being bodiless. > > i'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. > > > teachings of " i am not this ... " " i am not that ... " are as limited as any teachings. > > teachings have their time and place, like anything, and everything. > > so what? > > they appear and are gone like any appearance. > > > > > neither is something else, other than the body, affirmed or denied. > > > > > > > > well that depends on what your definition of is is. > > > > you're so full of shit dan. > > look. the point of this talk is simply that there is no definitive statement of truth to treasure as the truth. > > it's not rocket science or perry mason, either. > > > > > there is no point of attachment, nor a point from which to detach. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > and there's no point in your trying to bullshit yourself. > > > > but you do. > > you're misunderstanding. > > there's not some line of bullshit i'm holding onto. > > if you detect a line of bullshit being typed, that's your call. > > however it strikes you. > > > > you try and bullshit others too. > > > > it works on yourself but danny danny danny.. > > what self is that, bobby? the one that you boil in water to see it scream, or the one you say doesn't exist? > > let me get this straight. > > > > it doesn't work with others and never fucking will kid. > > > > i forgive you. > > > > you know not what you do. > > > now you're getting all forgiving on me, and shit? > > sheesh. > > next you'll actually show some human warmth. > > > ya feelin' lucky, punk? > > go ahead, make my day. > > - d - ROFLMAO! it's Mr.Peepers in drag. that made my day Pee Wee. now get out of your playhouse.. go to the movies and do your stuff. oh man this is fun! please don't stop. hehehehe....heeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well sit that body in boiling water. > > > > > > > > > > > > now tell me it's not you. > > > > > > > > > > Boiling water doesn't make it any more " me " than cold water does. > > > > > > > > > > > get real or get lost. > > > > > > > > > > I'll do what I please. Read it or get lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > you just got through saying you had no choice. > > > > > > > > now you say you'll do what you want. > > > > > > > > sucking and blowing at the same time doesn't work. > > > > > > except when you do it. > > > > > > you've said the exact same in previous posts. > > > > > > that there is no choice. > > > > > > and that you'll do what you want and no one will tell you what to do. > > > > > > > just so's you know. > > > > > > > > although you probably still won't get it. > > > > > > > > " choose " away. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > oops, watch those double .b b.b.'s, now. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > well danny.. > > > > pick up on the stuff that's important for you. > > > > you can spot those double .b b.b.'s real good hon. > > > > and forget about being put in your place. > > > > that's your choice and mediocrity. > > > > figures. > > > > .b b.b. > > > yes, it's fun spotting them when they happen. > > you're going to give up on putting me in my place? never kid. > what's the temperature in hell, 22 below zero, you say? > > no shit. > > > - d - there is no hell danny. there is no heaven. there are no bodies. there is only the Big Nothing. and since it's nothing.. it's not so big after all. like your bullshit it's small fry stuff. that mom hit must have done more damage then i had thought. you actually think your ideas are meritorious. there not. you actually think you're clever. you're not. why hell dan..you aren't even dan. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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