Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are > > > > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. > > > > lol > > > > -egg- > > > > > > you are missing what i've been saying, apparently. > > > > He's hearing 'himself' speak. > > > > Not missing what you've been saying. Not hearing 'you' at all. > > > > One hears oneself. If there's resonation, oneself is heard through another. If not, nothing is 'heard'. > > Yes. > > That's seen. > > The one posting, posts to the image of self maintained. > > Puts up that image through words. > > Interacts with and through that image. > > Unless it's not there, which is rare. P.S... I don't much care for the notion that " clarity is rare " ... it caters to the whole idea of " Great Enlightened Beings " , or just " he's got something I've don't " ... From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, normal beings -- or just being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are > > > > > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. > > > > > lol > > > > > -egg- > > > > > > > > you are missing what i've been saying, apparently. > > > > > > He's hearing 'himself' speak. > > > > > > Not missing what you've been saying. Not hearing 'you' at all. > > > > > > One hears oneself. If there's resonation, oneself is heard through another. If not, nothing is 'heard'. > > > > Yes. > > > > That's seen. > > > > The one posting, posts to the image of self maintained. > > > > Puts up that image through words. > > > > Interacts with and through that image. > > > > Unless it's not there, which is rare. > > P.S... I don't much care for the notion that " clarity is rare " ... it caters to the whole idea of " Great Enlightened Beings " , or just " he's got something I've don't " ... > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, normal beings -- or just being. there is no such thing as enlightenment. there are no such things as enlightened beings. this is it. you're going no further. give upon the bullshit and get a life while you can. you will soon enough be dead and gone. nobody cares and you won't either after death. give up caring and searching and bullshitting. bad enough it wastes others' time.. it wastes what little you have. it doesn't matter in any case. Do What Thou Will. you can't " will " anything anyway so what the hell. That is the Whole of THE Law. So Be It. have a nice day. ..b b.b. p.s. you can also quit hoping that " they " were kidding about Santa. he really really really is NOT real. neither is any of this " something Big..Unseen..Unknown..BULLSHIT. you are you. i am me. they are they. what's happening NOW is not illusion. it's the ONLY reality afforded. get with it now. there is NO escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:20 AM Re: ? (P.S. Dan) Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you > > > > are > > > > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange. > > > > lol > > > > -egg- > > > > > > you are missing what i've been saying, apparently. > > > > He's hearing 'himself' speak. > > > > Not missing what you've been saying. Not hearing 'you' at all. > > > > One hears oneself. If there's resonation, oneself is heard through > > another. If not, nothing is 'heard'. > > Yes. > > That's seen. > > The one posting, posts to the image of self maintained. > > Puts up that image through words. > > Interacts with and through that image. > > Unless it's not there, which is rare. P.S... I don't much care for the notion that " clarity is rare " ... it caters to the whole idea of " Great Enlightened Beings " , or just " he's got something I've don't " ... From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, normal beings -- or just being. -tim- The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). When clarity is, " Great Enlightened Beings " is known to be just an image, for one reason. -egg- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 25/6/2009 07:10:29 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, > normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in > openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, > normal beings -- or just being. > -tim- > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, > > normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in > > openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, > > normal beings -- or just being. > > -tim- > > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't > the vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. Now, kindly take a clue from the above: What's perceived when you think " this person felt like this " is NOT what the other person felt. It's what you felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:07 AM Re: ? (P.S. Dan) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, > normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in > openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, > normal beings -- or just being. > -tim- > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. -ego- Have you not said that what otheres have writen is what I have writen?. Why should not I know then? But this is not the point. We all say funny things when sleeping. What I contest is your claim that it is not so, that each one is always awake. It is a belief. -egg- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 25/6/2009 09:13:46 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the > vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. > -ego- > > Have you not said that what otheres have writen is what I have > writen?. Why should not I know then? Because all that you perceive is yourself. But you keep forgetting, because of the subject/object habit. Both subject and object are in you. I don't mean the bodies, I mean the sense of " self " and the sense of " other " . Everything you perceive is yourself. Hug someone, and you feel the sensations in yourself. Kiss someone, you feel their lips in yourself. Read someone's words, the thoughts appear in yourself, and corresponding feelings and surmisals occur in yourself. Kill someone, and the death appears to yourself. Get the picture yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:21 AM Re: ? (P.S. Dan) Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, > > normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in > > openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More > > like, > > normal beings -- or just being. > > -tim- > > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't > the vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. Now, kindly take a clue from the above: What's perceived when you think " this person felt like this " is NOT what the other person felt. It's what you felt. -tim- I want an honest ground for dialogue. If you say you are always one, I know it is not fact because when I read words writen by tim, sometimes it seems that the words point to conceptuality. From eventual non-conceptuality here...conceptuality is seen in tims words. Its all here. -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 25/6/2009 09:37:37 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Now, kindly take a clue from the above: What's perceived when you think > " this person felt like this " is NOT what the other person felt. > > It's what you felt. > -tim- > > I want an honest ground for dialogue. Then BE an honest ground. That's the only way. You cannot ask someone else to be different than they are, particularly since by the time you ask, they've already posted what you're complaining about (doh). Be different than YOU are, and you'll get your ground. Stay rooted in your own being while posting. Stop trying to " reach out to others " ... they don't feel you. You aren't with them. > If you say you are always one, I know > it is not fact Stop. You know nothing about " the other " . You know only yourself. From here, this is a fact. If it isn't so to you, look at YOURSELF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:24 AM Re: ? (P.S. Dan) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the > vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. > -tim- > > Have you not said that what otheres have writen is what I have > writen?. Why should not I know then? -geo- Because all that you perceive is yourself. But you keep forgetting, because of the subject/object habit. Both subject and object are in you. I don't mean the bodies, I mean the sense of " self " and the sense of " other " . Everything you perceive is yourself. Hug someone, and you feel the sensations in yourself. Kiss someone, you feel their lips in yourself. Read someone's words, the thoughts appear in yourself, and corresponding feelings and surmisals occur in yourself. Kill someone, and the death appears to yourself. Get the picture yet? -tim- Tim, I get the picture alright - as I have told you before. You missed the point. You said " You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the vaguest clue from what state it was written. " Geo asks: " Have you not said that what otheres have writen is what I have writen?. Why should not I know then? " If I have writen tims words then geo obviously knows the state they are comming from. -ego- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 25/6/2009 09:37:37 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, > > normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in > > openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, > > normal beings -- or just being. > > -tim- > > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. and you haven't the wispiest idea.. of what state his post was written in or from. so fucking what Jill? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, > > > normal, ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in > > > openly. Kill the myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, > > > normal beings -- or just being. > > > -tim- > > > > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't > > the vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. > > Now, kindly take a clue from the above: What's perceived when you think " this person felt like this " is NOT what the other person felt. > > It's what you felt. you haven't the vaguest clue what he " felt " . you're not him Jill. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > The above was writen form darkness (non-clarity). > > > > You were not " within the writer " when it was written, and haven't the > > vaguest clue from what state it was written. Just a fact, Jack. > > -ego- > > > > Have you not said that what otheres have writen is what I have > > writen?. Why should not I know then? > > Because all that you perceive is yourself. But you keep forgetting, because of the subject/object habit. > > Both subject and object are in you. I don't mean the bodies, I mean the sense of " self " and the sense of " other " . > > Everything you perceive is yourself. Hug someone, and you feel the sensations in yourself. Kiss someone, you feel their lips in yourself. Read someone's words, the thoughts appear in yourself, and corresponding feelings and surmisals occur in yourself. Kill someone, and the death appears to yourself. > > Get the picture yet? why ask? it's all yourself. you should know if 'your' others got the picture. but you ask anyway. you like playing with yourself then. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Now, kindly take a clue from the above: What's perceived when you think > > " this person felt like this " is NOT what the other person felt. > > > > It's what you felt. > > -tim- > > > > I want an honest ground for dialogue. > > Then BE an honest ground. That's the only way. > > You cannot ask someone else to be different than they are, particularly since by the time you ask, they've already posted what you're complaining about (doh). > > Be different than YOU are, and you'll get your ground. Stay rooted in your own being while posting. Stop trying to " reach out to others " ... they don't feel you. You aren't with them. > > > If you say you are always one, I know > > it is not fact > > Stop. You know nothing about " the other " . > > You know only yourself. > > From here, this is a fact. If it isn't so to you, look at YOURSELF. why don't you? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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