? (P.S. Dan) (P.S. Tim)

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Aint this funny?!! All the time claiming nobady is, I am not, you are

> > > > > not...and then this sooooo interesting exchange.

> > > > > lol

> > > > > -egg-

> > > >

> > > > you are missing what i've been saying, apparently.

> > >

> > > He's hearing 'himself' speak.

> > >

> > > Not missing what you've been saying. Not hearing 'you' at all.

> > >

> > > One hears oneself. If there's resonation, oneself is heard through

another. If not, nothing is 'heard'.

> >

> > Yes.

> >

> > That's seen.

> >

> > The one posting, posts to the image of self maintained.

> >

> > Puts up that image through words.

> >

> > Interacts with and through that image.

> >

> > Unless it's not there, which is rare.

>

> P.S... I don't much care for the notion that " clarity is rare " ... it caters to

the whole idea of " Great Enlightened Beings " , or just " he's got something I've

don't " ...

 

That's just it.

 

That's the reason it's rare.

 

People look for and to someone else who " has it. "

 

Whatever " it " is: charisma, love, sex appeal, money, power, status, wisdom,

knowledge, eternal life

 

There seems to be a deep assumption that " this here isn't complete now, as is,

undivided. "

 

There is an assumption of division, which means there is less here and more

there, apparently. Out there, where the other is who has it. So I want to be

near it, have more, etc.

 

> From here, it makes a lot more sense for clarity to be seen as common, normal,

ordinary, everyday.... everyone ought to be invited to join in openly. Kill the

myth of " enlightened beings " once and for all. More like, normal beings -- or

just being.

 

Whatever crusade one embarks on, the democracy of enlightenment, or the myth of

the master - it doesn't really matter -- the crusade and its message will simply

generate belief.

 

The message, and the belief that it is conveying something important that needs

to be acknowledged and understood - is just one more thing from " out there "

coming to a subject who supposedly will receive the message and benefit from

learning the information it carries.

 

To understand and be beyond dichotomies -

 

It really doesn't matter whether it's characterized as " rare " or " omnipresent "

- both are true as far as I'm concerned (and yes, there is no " I " involved to be

concerned).

 

This simply is.

 

Here.

 

Not somewhere else.

 

-- D --