Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. States are something that can be entered, and left. They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. This, here, is not a state. It is neither temporary, nor permanent. It is Now. Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. And it is your " state " , too -- right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch wrote: > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > This, here, is not a state. > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > It is Now. > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. it's called living. it's not all the opposites together as one.. or both and neither. it's it. right in front of your eyes without the romantic crap. you sound like a 14 year old girl rhapsodizing. and you're pompous. swing those pompous pom-poms honey. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch wrote: > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > This, here, is not a state. > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > It is Now. > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. Yes. This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. This is not-coming and not-going. This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. This is. It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. It isn't gained. It is, as contents are not. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > It is Now. > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. P: Neither of you know what you're talking about, and I mean that as a compliment, " Siriusly " > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > Yes. > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > This is. > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > It isn't gained. > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > - D - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > It is Now. > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > Yes. > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > This is. > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > It isn't gained. > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > - D - it is bullshit...as are it's contents. and it's all you got. end of story. much better! now quit dreaming. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > It is Now. > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > Yes. > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > This is. > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > It isn't gained. > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > - D - > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > toombaru in the canada of no-self it is overstood as well...or not so well. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM Re: States Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > all. > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > It is Now. > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > time. > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > Yes. > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > This is. > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > It isn't gained. > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > - D - > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. toombaru " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > Re: States > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > toombaru > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > -geo- neither " one " nor " time " is real or relevant. there is no place to hide. there is no one to run. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > Re: States > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > toombaru > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > -geo- > LOL What's the exact time where you are right now? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, June 26, 2009 6:20 PM Re: States Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > Re: States > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or > > > forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > toombaru > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > -geo- > LOL What's the exact time where you are right now? toombaru Square right on time -egg- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > > > This is. > > > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > in the canada of no-self it is overstood as well...or not so well. > > .b b.b. no matter where or why or when.. whether well or not so well.. it is swell. but there's no one to tell. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 26, 2009 6:20 PM > Re: States > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > > Re: States > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > > all. > > > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or > > > > forever. > > > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > > time. > > > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > > > This is. > > > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > > toombaru > > > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > > -geo- > > > > LOL > > What's the exact time where you are right now? > > toombaru > > Square right on time > -egg- when it is right now.. no time is left. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Friday, June 26, 2009 6:33 PM Re: Re: States - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, June 26, 2009 6:20 PM Re: States Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > Re: States > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or > > > forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > toombaru > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > -geo- > LOL What's the exact time where you are right now? toombaru Square right on time -egg- Just to make sure I asked a friend of mine and he said: it is...is....is....is...is..is...is...is is...is...is...is.. ...jeezz, gues my watch is a bit ahed of time. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > > Re: States > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > > all. > > > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > > time. > > > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > > > This is. > > > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > > toombaru > > > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > > -geo- > > > > > LOL > > What's the exact time where you are right now? > > > > > toombaru Now *is* time, fellows. Now includes all time... all the past, and all the future. Time isn't linear, it's circular. It swirls around the Now, in endless eddies and chains. " Go with the flow " and you'll see: There's no flow. The flow is your own resistance to the flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > > > Re: States > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > > > > > This is. > > > > > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > What's the exact time where you are right now? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Now *is* time, fellows. > > Now includes all time... all the past, and all the future. > > Time isn't linear, it's circular. It swirls around the Now, in endless eddies and chains. > > " Go with the flow " and you'll see: There's no flow. The flow is your own resistance to the flow. nothing is " flowing " . what's to resist? who's to resist? stop insist on resisting. it's not happening. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > toombaru2006 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > > > > Re: States > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > > > > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > > > > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > > > > > > > This is. > > > > > > > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > > > > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > > > > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > What's the exact time where you are right now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Now *is* time, fellows. > > > > Now includes all time... all the past, and all the future. > > > > Time isn't linear, it's circular. It swirls around the Now, in endless eddies and chains. > > > > " Go with the flow " and you'll see: There's no flow. The flow is your own resistance to the flow. > > > nothing is " flowing " . > > what's to resist? > > who's to resist? > > stop insist on resisting. > > it's not happening. > > .b b.b. ding! forgot the " ing " on " insist " . but i'm not sorry. it's great either way. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > P: Neither of you know what you're talking about, > and I mean that as a compliment, " Siriusly " Yes, I take it that way. Not knowing what I'm talking about. Knowing nothing. Nothing to be known. Is without needing to know, and not even 'is.' - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > > toombaru Let's have a bunch of concepts to explain why concepts aren't relevant. No, let's not and say we did. - d- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, June 26, 2009 5:44 PM > Re: States > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " natural state " (awakening) really cannot be called a 'state' at > > > all. > > > > > > States are something that can be entered, and left. > > > > > > They have duration. They last a short time, or a long time, or forever. > > > > > > This, here, is not a state. > > > > > > It is neither temporary, nor permanent. > > > > > > It is Now. > > > > > > Now has no duration, nor does it lack duration. > > > > > > What this is, is not a state, but it is not a non-state, either. > > > > > > There is no name for what this is. It is beyond description, beyond > > > time. > > > > > > And it is your " state " , too -- right now. > > > > Yes. > > > > This is the coming and going of what goes and comes. > > > > This is not-coming and not-going. > > > > This has no contents, and refers to no one, no other, no else. > > > > This is. > > > > It isn't gained by explaining it or wording it. > > > > It isn't gained. > > > > It is, as contents are not. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > Only in the united states of self is the concept " now " relevant. > > toombaru > > " Now " is relevant for one trying hard to hide from time > -geo- That one that isn't real, isn't doing anything real, and doesn't need to be commented upon. This one that is real, isn't commented upon, doesn't need to be, and never will be commented upon. Thus, nothing needs to be commented upon, and comments add nothing. Any comments offered, are clouds passing in the sky. They don't help or hurt the sky, don't change it or make it stay what it is. All these millions of comments, passing by, like a parade of ants, or like currents in the ocean. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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