Nisargadatta on The Reality

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Nisargadatta: The state which sprouts suddenly and without cause, carries no

stain of self; you may call it 'god'. What is seedless and rootless, what does

not sprout and grow, flower and fruit, what comes into being suddenly and in

full glory, mysteriously and marvellously, you may call that 'god'. It is

entirely unexpected yet inevitable, infinitely familiar yet most surprising,

beyond all hope yet absolutely certain. Because it is without cause, it is

without hindrance. It obeys one law only; the law of freedom. Anything that

implies a continuity, a sequence, a passing from stage to stage cannot be the

real. There is no progress in reality, it is final, perfect, unrelated.

[Guest guest]

> Nisargadatta: The state which sprouts suddenly and without cause, carries no

stain of self; you may call it 'god'. What is seedless and rootless, what does

not sprout and grow, flower and fruit, what comes into being suddenly and in

full glory, mysteriously and marvellously, you may call that 'god'. It is

entirely unexpected yet inevitable, infinitely familiar yet most surprising,

beyond all hope yet absolutely certain. Because it is without cause, it is

without hindrance. It obeys one law only; the law of freedom. Anything that

implies a continuity, a sequence, a passing from stage to stage cannot be the

real. There is no progress in reality, it is final, perfect, unrelated.

> ==

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> Interesting to consider what Nis. is referring to here with " The

> state which sprouts suddenly and without cause " . It is not

> the " ultimate " , or parabrhaman, for THAT does not sprouts. He is

> talking of the world, this light that sprouts without the tiniest

> trace of " I " .

> -geo-

 

Don't take words too seriously -- he's probably speaking metaphorically when

saying it's a " state " that " sprouts " . It could just as easily be said " illusion

vanishes " or " unreality dissolves " .

-tim-

 

Then you are not understanding. To NIs " god " is " consciousness-I-am-all-of-it " .

The ultimate was not ever called by him a god...

-geo-

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Nisargadatta: The state which sprouts suddenly and without cause, carries no stain of self; you may call it 'god'. What is seedless and rootless, what does not sprout and grow, flower and fruit, what comes into being suddenly and in full glory, mysteriously and marvellously, you may call that 'god'. It is entirely unexpected yet inevitable, infinitely familiar yet most surprising, beyond all hope yet absolutely certain. Because it is without cause, it is without hindrance. It obeys one law only; the law of freedom. Anything that implies a continuity, a sequence, a passing from stage to stage cannot be the real. There is no progress in reality, it is final, perfect, unrelated.> > ==> > > > Interesting to consider what Nis. is referring to here with "The > > state which sprouts suddenly and without cause". It is not > > the "ultimate", or parabrhaman, for THAT does not sprouts. He is > > talking of the world, this light that sprouts without the tiniest > > trace of "I".> > -geo-> > Don't take words too seriously -- he's probably speaking metaphorically when saying it's a "state" that "sprouts". It could just as easily be said "illusion vanishes" or "unreality dissolves".> -tim-> > Then you are not understanding.I am understanding. Literal statement. Not understanding something in particular. I... am... Understanding (itself).That is not to brag. So are you.

-tim-

 

I said you did not understand the quote you brought up. This world IS without the "I".....(or eventualy with an "I"... )

-ego-