Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > No, Dan, > > To look out from a center is not what Nis refered to as the sense " I am " . > > For him being, consciousness and the I am are just one and the same. > > The I am is all there is, or consciousness is all there is. > > Werner Werner - In case my previous post seemed too long, here is something short and sweet from Nis., from " I Am That " : I am not even Consciousness, which is dual and perceivable: I am the unknown Reality beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > No, Dan, > > > > To look out from a center is not what Nis refered to as the sense " I am " . > > > > For him being, consciousness and the I am are just one and the same. > > > > The I am is all there is, or consciousness is all there is. > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > In case my previous post seemed too long, here is something short and sweet from Nis., from " I Am That " : > > I am not even Consciousness, which is dual and perceivable: > I am the unknown Reality beyond. Hi Dan, What does it matter? " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same as saying " life is a dream " . If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:37 PM Re: To Werner : I am not even Consciousness Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > No, Dan, > > > > To look out from a center is not what Nis refered to as the sense " I > > am " . > > > > For him being, consciousness and the I am are just one and the same. > > > > The I am is all there is, or consciousness is all there is. > > > > Werner > > Werner - > > In case my previous post seemed too long, here is something short and > sweet from Nis., from " I Am That " : > > I am not even Consciousness, which is dual and perceivable: > I am the unknown Reality beyond. Hi Dan, What does it matter? " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same as saying " life is a dream " . If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. == Anthing else? -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 2/7/2009 19:05:47 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > What does it matter? > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > as saying " life is a dream " . > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > == > Anthing else? > -geo- What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. There is nothing that applies to everyone. (or ultimately, anyone ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > No, Dan, > > > > > > To look out from a center is not what Nis refered to as the sense " I am " . > > > > > > For him being, consciousness and the I am are just one and the same. > > > > > > The I am is all there is, or consciousness is all there is. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Werner - > > > > In case my previous post seemed too long, here is something short and sweet from Nis., from " I Am That " : > > > > I am not even Consciousness, which is dual and perceivable: > > I am the unknown Reality beyond. > > Hi Dan, > > What does it matter? > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same as saying " life is a dream " . > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. Why does that matter? - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > What does it matter? > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > == > > Anthing else? > > -geo- > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. -- D -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > No, Dan, > > > > > > > > To look out from a center is not what Nis refered to as the sense " I am " . > > > > > > > > For him being, consciousness and the I am are just one and the same. > > > > > > > > The I am is all there is, or consciousness is all there is. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > In case my previous post seemed too long, here is something short and sweet from Nis., from " I Am That " : > > > > > > I am not even Consciousness, which is dual and perceivable: > > > I am the unknown Reality beyond. > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > What does it matter? > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > Why does that matter? > > - D - In terms of 'still being important', it doesn't :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > == > > > Anthing else? > > > -geo- > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > -- D -- Fuck off. Oops... sorry, nobody there to say it to. Funny, it seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > > == > > > > Anthing else? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > > > -- D -- > > Fuck off. > > Oops... sorry, nobody there to say it to. > > Funny, it seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). It would be you killing yourself for saying something to yourself to get yourself killed. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > > == > > > > Anthing else? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > > > -- D -- > > F*ck off. > > Oops, I forgot, nobody there to say it to. > > Seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). So, this one gets a strategically placed * ? What's that about? Fuck off, dude. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > > > == > > > > > Anthing else? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > > > > > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > > > > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > > > > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > Fuck off. > > > > Oops... sorry, nobody there to say it to. > > > > Funny, it seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). > > It would be you killing yourself for saying something to yourself > to get yourself killed. > > - d - LOL! Thats true! :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > > > == > > > > > Anthing else? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > > > > > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > > > > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > > > > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > F*ck off. > > > > Oops, I forgot, nobody there to say it to. > > > > Seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). > > So, this one gets a strategically placed * ? > > What's that about? > > Fuck off, dude. > > - d - I thought the message didn't go through, cuz I used a swear word, So I re-entered it. So f****** all macaroni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > > > > == > > > > > > Anthing else? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > > > > > > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > > > > > > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > F*ck off. > > > > > > Oops, I forgot, nobody there to say it to. > > > > > > Seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). > > > > So, this one gets a strategically placed * ? > > > > What's that about? > > > > Fuck off, dude. > > > > - d - > > I thought the message didn't go through, > cuz I used a swear word, > > So I re-entered it. > > So f****** all macaroni. I deserve an uncensored f*ck y*u, d*mn *t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it matter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " All is consciousness " is an appropriate teaching, for some. It's the same > > > > > > > as saying " life is a dream " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this resonates with Werner, that's all that matters. > > > > > > > == > > > > > > > Anthing else? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > What matters is what resonates with a particular 'someone'. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing that applies to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > (or ultimately, anyone ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, now we have someone's to contend with, and whether something resonates or doesn't resonate with these someone's? > > > > > > > > > > Why do you say " ultimately " there isn't anyone to apply things to? > > > > > > > > > > If there is no one to apply anything to, there is no one to apply anything to. > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > > > F*ck off. > > > > > > > > Oops, I forgot, nobody there to say it to. > > > > > > > > Seems I almost got killed saying it to someone in a biker bar last week ;-). > > > > > > So, this one gets a strategically placed * ? > > > > > > What's that about? > > > > > > Fuck off, dude. > > > > > > - d - > > > > I thought the message didn't go through, > > cuz I used a swear word, > > > > So I re-entered it. > > > > So f****** all macaroni. > > I deserve an uncensored f*ck y*u, d*mn *t! Be quiet. Shhhhhhhh... 'it' ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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