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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> > Let me look at this again. There is no ME, which means that I am not

> > immersed in concepts, I am not identified with thought.

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> You are concept. You are thought.

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> > But the words I am

> > reading point to the fact that there is defensiveness, or fear, or

> > avoidance. There is no conceptual center here...but there may be

> > there!!

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> Wherever anyone feels a conceptual center to be around, it's *always* " here " .

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> Dan: " There is only ego seeing ego " .

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> If you see ego in me, it's your own ego.

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> People rarely/never sees ego in themselves. Ego is always seen in " other " .

And it's always the seer's ego.

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There is only ego... the sense of separation. Into observing and observed, into

self and other, into this and that.

 

It's splitting the atom, it's splitting thought into infinity.

 

I am, after all, is the original thought.

 

~A

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> You own thinking? That is all? Are you really serious? The words you are

> reading where NOT chosen by your mind. They where writen by geo!!!

 

It matters not. Interpretation is all. 100%.

 

P.S. no " self " writes anything, nor does any " self " read anything.

 

> Tim, you are the totality of the world that reach your senses now, BUT

> YOU

> ARE NOT THE TOTALITY OF THE UNIVERSE.

 

I am one with the universe, and the universe is one. This is obvious here,

but when " Tim " is being addressed (as if a named self-image existed as

something real), apparently it's not obvious everywhere.

-t-

 

There is a fundamental contradiction in what you write. You are the whole

universe...but something apparently it's not obvious somewhere.

So evidently something is not obvious in the universe that you you are.

-ggo-

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Tim G.

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Sunday, July 05, 2009 4:05 AM

Re: Chaos & the Brain (duality)

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Let me look at this again. There is no ME, which means that I am not

> immersed in concepts, I am not identified with thought.

 

You are concept. You are thought.

 

> But the words I am

> reading point to the fact that there is defensiveness, or fear, or

> avoidance. There is no conceptual center here...but there may be

> there!!

 

Wherever anyone feels a conceptual center to be around, it's *always*

" here " .

 

Dan: " There is only ego seeing ego " .

 

If you see ego in me, it's your own ego.

 

People rarely/never sees ego in themselves. Ego is always seen in " other " .

And it's always the seer's ego.

-tim-

 

There is no such thing as an ego. So ego can not see any ego. There is the

conceptual thinking as if there was an ego. What I see in " another " is

conceptual thinking causing confusion and conflict given away through the

words they write. There is a deeply ingrained conviction that should be

questioned...

I am the world, but I am not tim in its details concerning his localized

organism. It is obvious: you dont know what geo is thinking now. And you

know this - sometimes - then you dont know this - other times - and the

contradiction is present.

 

For example: you say things like " I will not answer more question folks

ask.... " - so now they are not yourself, then the other way around - " it is

only me writing and reading my own words " . How is that?

 

-egg-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> There is no such thing as an ego. So ego can not see any ego. There is the

> conceptual thinking as if there was an ego. What I see in " another " is

> conceptual thinking causing confusion and conflict given away through the

> words they write.

 

What you see in 'another' is your own conceptual thinking. If a belief exists

that there's really 'another', stop putting quotes around the word.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> There is a fundamental contradiction in what you write.

 

No, there is a fundamental contradiction in how you interpret, which means

there's a fundamental contradiction in you. Have a look at it, or continue to

see division and contradiction everywhere.

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Monday, July 06, 2009 7:36 AM

Re: Chaos & the Brain (duality)

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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>

>

> There is no such thing as an ego. So ego can not see any ego. There is the

> conceptual thinking as if there was an ego. What I see in " another " is

> conceptual thinking causing confusion and conflict given away through the

> words they write.

-ggo-

 

What you see in 'another' is your own conceptual thinking. If a belief

exists that there's really 'another', stop putting quotes around the word.

-timi-

 

I understand your difficulty, it is really very complicated. Another chair,

another car, another organism. That body burnt its arm . This bodys didnt.

Very complex indeed.

-geo-

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, July 06, 2009 7:36 AM

> Re: Chaos & the Brain (duality)

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> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > There is no such thing as an ego. So ego can not see any ego. There is the

> > conceptual thinking as if there was an ego. What I see in " another " is

> > conceptual thinking causing confusion and conflict given away through the

> > words they write.

> -ggo-

>

> What you see in 'another' is your own conceptual thinking. If a belief

> exists that there's really 'another', stop putting quotes around the word.

> -timi-

>

> I understand your difficulty,

 

.... the problem being, you don't understand your own. That's fine.

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