Guest guest Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Namaste, After reading both Maharaj and Ramana, it is obvious they teach the same thing but slightly different approach....Ramana uses the question 'Who am I' and Niz use I am that. They both talk in absolutes with regard to death. However they both admit that if you still have an ego you will have karma and hence reincarnation etc....Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 - Tony OClery Nisargadatta Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:19 PM Niz and Ramana. Namaste, After reading both Maharaj and Ramana, it is obvious they teach the same thing but slightly different approach....Ramana uses the question 'Who am I' and Niz use I am that. They both talk in absolutes with regard to death. However they both admit that if you still have an ego you will have karma and hence reincarnation etc....Cheers Tony. Not reencarnation in the sense that there is some inner spirit that migrates. More like: there will be again somebody dreaming that he was born and will die -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 GuruRatings , " Durga " <durgaji108 wrote: GuruRatings , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > advaitajnana , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Namaste,This from my own group. > > > > After reading both Maharaj and Ramana, it is obvious they teach the same thing but slightly different approach....Ramana uses the question 'Who am I' and Niz use I am that. > > > > They both talk in absolutes with regard to death. However they both admit that if you still have an ego you will have karma and hence reincarnation etc....Cheers Tony. > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > So what does this mean? Only that ego--a sense of separation from the whole is reborn, again and again to re-experience its separation and > its journey to a sense of wholeness. > > I'm not sure if I can ever experience my death. Dying yes. Death, hardly. > > ~A Yes, this is true. The 'sense' of separation is what causes rebirth, 'sense' being the operative word, because in reality you are already that which you seek. And being already, that, no separation is ever possible. Who you are is never born, and therefore never dies. The body dies. All things in manifest 'reality' are in a constant state of death and rebirth. Death of the prior moment and rebirth of the next. Ranjit Maharaj (Niz and he had the same guru) used to say, " You don't die. Only the body dies, " which made no sense to me at the time I heard him say it, because I firmly believed that I was the body, but now I know what he meant. Durga --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 advaitajnana , Mahesh Kamat <mv.kamat wrote: > > what is perceived is present? > -mahesh > > > > > ________________________________ > Tony OClery <aoclery > advaitajnana > Sunday, July 5, 2009 2:25:15 AM > Re: Fwd: Niz and Ramana. > > > > > > GuruRatings, " Durga " <durgaji108@ ...> wrote: > > GuruRatings, " anabebe57 " <kailashana@ > wrote: > > > > GuruRatings, " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > advaitajnana, " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste,This from my own group. > > > > > > After reading both Maharaj and Ramana, it is obvious they teach the same thing but slightly different approach.... Ramana uses the question 'Who am I' and Niz use I am that. > > > > > > They both talk in absolutes with regard to death. However they both admit that if you still have an ego you will have karma and hence reincarnation etc....Cheers Tony. > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > So what does this mean? Only that ego--a sense of separation from the whole is reborn, again and again to re-experience its separation and > > its journey to a sense of wholeness. > > > > I'm not sure if I can ever experience my death. Dying yes. Death, hardly. > > > > ~A > > Yes, this is true. The 'sense' of separation > is what causes rebirth, 'sense' being the > operative word, because in reality you > are already that which you seek. And > being already, that, no separation is > ever possible. > > Who you are is never born, and therefore never dies. > The body dies. All things in manifest 'reality' > are in a constant state of death and rebirth. > > Death of the prior moment and rebirth of the next. > > Ranjit Maharaj (Niz and he had the same guru) > used to say, " You don't die. Only the body dies, " > which made no sense to me at the time I heard him > say it, because I firmly believed that I was the > body, but now I know what he meant. > > Durga Namaste, Who perceives at all....'Who am I'....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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