Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM > > > > > > > Re: Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:10 AM > > > > > > > Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And...make sure you know that > > > > > > > > > -ego- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is wrong with you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what's to know asshole? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actualy, nothing. It is a matter of seeing. > > > > > > > > -egg- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner's right, Bobbie's a nut job. I'm up for ignoring him, if > > > > > > > everyone else is. > > > > > > > -tim- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you do it then? Cant resist reacting? > > > > > > > In fact the two of you - tim and dan - has been engaged in the longest BS > > > > > > > threads with bbb. Pure reaction. Concidence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And....as bbb is tim and tim is bbb...you are going to ignore yourself? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > It makes me sad, that one should be ignorant enough to take what they don't understand to be comedy. > > > > > > > > > > But then, one has to live with oneself... nobody else has to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Tim, > > > > > > > > and the most difficult to stand is to stand oneself. And when there is fear it is the fear of onseself. > > > > > > > > And when there is pleasure and pain it is the pleasure and pain of oneself. > > > > > > > > And you can have an image of another person but that does not mean that you are that person. > > > > > > > > And the comedy is if you believe you are that person. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > How can there be two " you's? " If that's possible, then there's an endless series of other observers observing the observing of the one " you " of the other " you. " There's no spiritual calculus to gel this series into a unity. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > leave it at there is no spiritual calculus period. > > > > the very thought is ignorant. > > > > actually all thoughts are ignorance. > > > > .b b.b. > > It takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- yes? And, can you instruct me about the nature of THAT which thoughts are ignoring? > > no. anyone that says they can is bullshitting you. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > geo > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:10 AM > > > > > > Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And...make sure you know that > > > > > > > > -ego- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is wrong with you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what's to know asshole? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actualy, nothing. It is a matter of seeing. > > > > > > > -egg- > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner's right, Bobbie's a nut job. I'm up for ignoring him, if > > > > > > everyone else is. > > > > > > -tim- > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you do it then? Cant resist reacting? > > > > > > In fact the two of you - tim and dan - has been engaged in the longest BS > > > > > > threads with bbb. Pure reaction. Concidence? > > > > > > > > > > > > And....as bbb is tim and tim is bbb...you are going to ignore yourself? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > It makes me sad, that one should be ignorant enough to take what they don't understand to be comedy. > > > > > > > > But then, one has to live with oneself... nobody else has to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Tim, > > > > > > and the most difficult to stand is to stand oneself. And when there is fear it is the fear of onseself. > > > > > > And when there is pleasure and pain it is the pleasure and pain of oneself. > > > > > > And you can have an image of another person but that does not mean that you are that person. > > > > > > And the comedy is if you believe you are that person. > > > > > > Werner > > > > How can there be two " you's? " If that's possible, then there's an endless series of other observers observing the observing of the one " you " of the other " you. " There's no spiritual calculus to gel this series into a unity. > > > > Edg > > > > > I have no idea how can there be two yous - you hopefully will tell me. > > Werner face it wernie.. no one can tell you anything. that's a good thing chump. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 > It takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- yes? And, can you instruct me about > the nature of THAT which thoughts are ignoring? > > Edg Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > The nature of that is concepts, dead memory contents. > -geo- Please, give me more than that poem. Are you saying that THAT -- our beloved sacred THAT -- can only be " yet more concepts? " I don't think you're saying that. Hmmmmm... Gotta split for a while -- back later. Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM > > > > > > > Re: Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:10 AM > > > > > > > Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And...make sure you know that > > > > > > > > > -ego- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is wrong with you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what's to know asshole? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actualy, nothing. It is a matter of seeing. > > > > > > > > -egg- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner's right, Bobbie's a nut job. I'm up for ignoring him, if > > > > > > > everyone else is. > > > > > > > -tim- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you do it then? Cant resist reacting? > > > > > > > In fact the two of you - tim and dan - has been engaged in the longest BS > > > > > > > threads with bbb. Pure reaction. Concidence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And....as bbb is tim and tim is bbb...you are going to ignore yourself? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > It makes me sad, that one should be ignorant enough to take what they don't understand to be comedy. > > > > > > > > > > But then, one has to live with oneself... nobody else has to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Tim, > > > > > > > > and the most difficult to stand is to stand oneself. And when there is fear it is the fear of onseself. > > > > > > > > And when there is pleasure and pain it is the pleasure and pain of oneself. > > > > > > > > And you can have an image of another person but that does not mean that you are that person. > > > > > > > > And the comedy is if you believe you are that person. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > How can there be two " you's? " If that's possible, then there's an endless series of other observers observing the observing of the one " you " of the other " you. " There's no spiritual calculus to gel this series into a unity. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > I have no idea how can there be two yous - you hopefully will tell me. > > > > Werner > > > > Call me Socrates -- don't know nuttin' no how, but if you get me in an arm lock, I'll blurbify for ya. > > Inside the mind, objects of consciousness fritter with a phantom that cannot become its own object of observation observing the corn pone sizzle. The vicious cycle begins. > > Edg > Yes, this already is known, Edg. And if you are content with that insight you can be happy with it. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 - duveyoung Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:51 PM Re: what's left here and now..and always > It takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- yes? And, can you instruct me about > the nature of THAT which thoughts are ignoring? > > Edg Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > The nature of that is concepts, dead memory contents. > -geo- Please, give me more than that poem. Are you saying that THAT -- our beloved sacred THAT -- can only be " yet more concepts? " I don't think you're saying that. Hmmmmm... Gotta split for a while -- back later. Edg Jeeeez....now I am lost... (of course I was referring to what thought thinks) Is THAT -- our beloved sacred THAT? Or are we ITs beloved wes? -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 8/7/2009 13:54:57 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Tim G. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:10 AM > > > > > > > > Re: what's left here and now..and always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And...make sure you know that > > > > > > > > > > -ego- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck is wrong with you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what's to know asshole? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actualy, nothing. It is a matter of seeing. > > > > > > > > > -egg- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Werner's right, Bobbie's a nut job. I'm up for ignoring him, if > > > > > > > > everyone else is. > > > > > > > > -tim- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why dont you do it then? Cant resist reacting? > > > > > > > > In fact the two of you - tim and dan - has been engaged in the longest BS > > > > > > > > threads with bbb. Pure reaction. Concidence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And....as bbb is tim and tim is bbb...you are going to ignore yourself? > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > It makes me sad, that one should be ignorant enough to take what they don't understand to be comedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > But then, one has to live with oneself... nobody else has to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > and the most difficult to stand is to stand oneself. And when there is fear it is the fear of onseself. > > > > > > > > > > And when there is pleasure and pain it is the pleasure and pain of oneself. > > > > > > > > > > And you can have an image of another person but that does not mean that you are that person. > > > > > > > > > > And the comedy is if you believe you are that person. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > How can there be two " you's? " If that's possible, then there's an endless series of other observers observing the observing of the one " you " of the other " you. " There's no spiritual calculus to gel this series into a unity. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea how can there be two yous - you hopefully will tell me. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > Call me Socrates -- don't know nuttin' no how, but if you get me in an arm lock, I'll blurbify for ya. > > > > Inside the mind, objects of consciousness fritter with a phantom that cannot become its own object of observation observing the corn pone sizzle. The vicious cycle begins. > > > > Edg > > > > > Yes, this already is known, Edg. And if you are content with that insight you can be happy with it. > > Werner well personally i think Edg is right on the money. and i love geo. but you wernie.. well.. there's really nothing to say. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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