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Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira <marcelovpf wrote: > > Hi, everybody! > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > Peace! > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of the scholarly acumen available here. Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 - Marcelo Pires Ferreira Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:28 PM Hi! Hi, everybody! My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. Peace! Fala Marcelo...De qual estado? Which state? -geo- Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportes avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 8/7/2009 13:31:06 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > Hi, everybody! > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > Peace! > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of the scholarly acumen available here. > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > Edg brazilians! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > Hi, everybody! > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > Peace! > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of the scholarly acumen available here. > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > Edg > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? You must be your own light. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > Edg > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > You must be your own light. > > Werner you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. as a one watt wonder that is. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:49 PM Re: Hi! Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira <marcelovpf@> > wrote: > > > > Hi, everybody! > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > Peace! > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of the > scholarly acumen available here. > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > Edg > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? You must be your own light. Werner Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are you doing? I need the bread! -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 8/7/2009 13:52:55 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM Re: Hi! Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > Edg > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > You must be your own light. > > Werner you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. as a one watt wonder that is. ..b b.b. C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 8/7/2009 14:06:55 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Werner Woehr > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:49 PM > Re: Hi! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira <marcelovpf@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of the > > scholarly acumen available here. > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > Edg > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > You must be your own light. > > Werner > > Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are > you doing? I need the bread! > -geo- LOL! sign him up. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > Re: Hi! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > Werner > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > .b b.b. > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > -geo- gee.. i made a mistake! werner isn't that bright. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > Re: Hi! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > Werner > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > .b b.b. > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > -geo- > > Geo, The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any of his posts. Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he won't leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him and don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it and you will gain strenght. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > > > Werner > > > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > > -geo- > > > > > > Geo, > > The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any of his posts. > > Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he won't leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him and don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... > > I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it and you will gain strenght. > > Werner you love me shithead and you know it. ROFLMAO! through " strenght " whatever the fuck that is. :=0 your hero. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 - Werner Woehr Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:28 PM Re: Hi! Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > Re: Hi! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > Werner > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > .b b.b. > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > -geo- > > Geo, The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any of his posts. Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he won't leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him and don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it and you will gain strenght. Werner Look...lets make a deal. If bbb stops calling me an assole....I stop responding. But if he doesnt, I cant garantee...I have a reputation to look after. PS - Marcelo, não se assuste...é tudo brincadeitinha...fique a vontade. Wellcome! -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 8/7/2009 14:33:21 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Werner Woehr > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:28 PM > Re: Hi! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > > > Werner > > > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > > -geo- > > > > > > Geo, > > The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any of > his posts. > > Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he won't > leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him and > don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... > > I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to > renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to > express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it and > you will gain strenght. > > Werner > > Look...lets make a deal. If bbb stops calling me an assole....I stop > responding. But if he doesnt, I cant garantee...I have a reputation to look > after. Geo, Bob is calling you an asshole because he knows how weak you are to react. He needs your reaction to go on and on with his game - your reaction is feeding his need for attention. For heaven's sake get strong, Geo. Next time I will tell you a bit about the term 'Identification with the Aggressor'. Werner > PS - Marcelo, não se assuste...é tudo brincadeitinha...fique a vontade. > Wellcome! > -geo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Werner Woehr > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:28 PM > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > > > > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Geo, > > > > The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any of > > his posts. > > > > Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he won't > > leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him and > > don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... > > > > I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to > > renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to > > express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it and > > you will gain strenght. > > > > Werner > > > > Look...lets make a deal. If bbb stops calling me an assole....I stop > > responding. But if he doesnt, I cant garantee...I have a reputation to look > > after. > > > Geo, > > Bob is calling you an asshole because he knows how weak you are to react. He needs your reaction to go on and on with his game - your reaction is feeding his need for attention. > > For heaven's sake get strong, Geo. > > Next time I will tell you a bit about the term 'Identification with the Aggressor'. > > Werner for fuck sake werner get a goddamn clue. we're all idiots you clueless shithead. your thinking that you're other than that is stupid. and quit fucking begging people to do what you want them to do. you are a loser wernie. the word asshole is not a denigration. but you are a disgrace to the species touch hole. ..b b.b. > > PS - Marcelo, não se assuste...é tudo brincadeitinha...fique a vontade. > > Wellcome! > > -geo- thank you geo.. and whatever else seems appropriate to what i don't understand. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Werner Woehr > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:28 PM > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity of > > > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > > > > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Geo, > > > > The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any of > > his posts. > > > > Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he won't > > leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him and > > don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... > > > > I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to > > renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to > > express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it and > > you will gain strenght. > > > > Werner > > > > Look...lets make a deal. If bbb stops calling me an assole....I stop > > responding. But if he doesnt, I cant garantee...I have a reputation to look > > after. > > > Geo, > > Bob is calling you an asshole because he knows how weak you are to react. He needs your reaction to go on and on with his game - your reaction is feeding his need for attention. > > For heaven's sake get strong, Geo. > > Next time I will tell you a bit about the term 'Identification with the Aggressor'. > > Werner for fuck sake werner get a goddamn clue. we're all idiots you clueless shithead. your thinking that you're other than that is stupid. and quit fucking begging people to do what you want them to do. you are a loser wernie. the word asshole is not a denigration. but you are a disgrace to the species touch hole. ..b b.b. > > PS - Marcelo, não se assuste...é tudo brincadeitinha...fique a vontade. > > Wellcome! > > -geo- thank you geo.. and whatever else seems appropriate to what i don't understand. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Sou do Rio, mas morando em Ribeirão Preto/SP agora. Hugs!--- Em qua, 8/7/09, geo <inandor escreveu: De: geo <inandorAssunto: Re: Hi!Para: Nisargadatta Data: Quarta-feira, 8 de Julho de 2009, 13:35 - Marcelo Pires FerreiraNisargadattaWednesday, July 08, 2009 1:28 PM Hi!Hi, everybody!My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil.Peace!Fala Marcelo...De qual estado? Which state?-geo-Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportesavast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009Tested on: 8/7/2009 13:31:06avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? >You must be your own light. >Werner > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are >you doing? I need the bread! >-geo- Geo, Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you got a brochure and a fee schedule? Werner, My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who have pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation on ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. Personal God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for money, or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had to first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina-status that prods one to pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around who could possibly pull of omniscience or at least a good faking of omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough to include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. God asked, " Where am I? " An answer came: " Everywhere. " God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in non-existence. " God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll expand My Beingness into nothingness. " A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , Edg <edg wrote: > > > >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > >You must be your own light. > >Werner > > > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are > >you doing? I need the bread! > >-geo- > > Geo, > Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you got a brochure and a fee schedule? > > Werner, > > My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who have pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. > > But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation on ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? > > The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. Personal God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for money, or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had to first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina-status that prods one to pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. > > Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around who could possibly pull of omniscience or at least a good faking of omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough to include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. > > God asked, " Where am I? " > > An answer came: " Everywhere. " > > God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " > > An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in non-existence. " > > God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll expand My Beingness into nothingness. " > > A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " > > Edg cool! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , Edg <edg wrote: > > > >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > >You must be your own light. > >Werner > > > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are > >you doing? I need the bread! > >-geo- > > Geo, > Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you got a brochure and a fee schedule? > > Werner, > > My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who have pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. > > But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation on ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? > > The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. Personal God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for money, or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had to first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina-status that prods one to pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. > > Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around who could possibly pull of omniscience or at least a good faking of omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough to include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. > > God asked, " Where am I? " > > An answer came: " Everywhere. " > > God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " > > An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in non-existence. " > > God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll expand My Beingness into nothingness. " > > A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " > > Edg > Edg, For me it is quite difficult if not impossible to give you an anwer which will be just to you and satisfy your hunger for wisdom. I myself have thrown all these ideas overboard because they are just ballast. Especially Ramana, no matter how promising and beatiful his words, will just make you greedy and finally desperate not being able to fulfill those promises. He should be the first to say good-bye to. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Edg <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > >You must be your own light. > > >Werner > > > > > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are > > >you doing? I need the bread! > > >-geo- > > > > Geo, > > Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you got a brochure and a fee schedule? > > > > Werner, > > > > My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who have pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. > > > > But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation on ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? > > > > The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. Personal God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for money, or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had to first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina-status that prods one to pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. > > > > Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around who could possibly pull of omniscience or at least a good faking of omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough to include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. > > > > God asked, " Where am I? " > > > > An answer came: " Everywhere. " > > > > God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " > > > > An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in non-existence. " > > > > God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll expand My Beingness into nothingness. " > > > > A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " > > > > Edg > > > > > Edg, > > For me it is quite difficult if not impossible to give you an anwer which will be just to you and satisfy your hunger for wisdom. > > I myself have thrown all these ideas overboard because they are just ballast. > > Especially Ramana, no matter how promising and beatiful his words, will just make you greedy and finally desperate not being able to fulfill those promises. > > He should be the first to say good-bye to. > > Werner fuck wernie you don't get it. he threw you out with rosanne ramanadana already. are you that fucking stupid? throw yourself out and say goodbye dummy. you show no promise at all. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:22 PM Re: Hi! Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Werner Woehr > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:28 PM > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity > > > > > of > > > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > > > > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > Geo, > > > > The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any > > of > > his posts. > > > > Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he > > won't > > leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him > > and > > don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... > > > > I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to > > renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to > > express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it > > and > > you will gain strenght. > > > > Werner > > > > Look...lets make a deal. If bbb stops calling me an assole....I stop > > responding. But if he doesnt, I cant garantee...I have a reputation to > > look > > after. > > > Geo, > > Bob is calling you an asshole because he knows how weak you are to react. > He needs your reaction to go on and on with his game - your reaction is > feeding his need for attention. > > For heaven's sake get strong, Geo. > > Next time I will tell you a bit about the term 'Identification with the > Aggressor'. > > Werner for fuck sake werner get a goddamn clue. we're all idiots you clueless shithead. your thinking that you're other than that is stupid. and quit fucking begging people to do what you want them to do. you are a loser wernie. the word asshole is not a denigration. but you are a disgrace to the species touch hole. ..b b.b. > > PS - Marcelo, não se assuste...é tudo brincadeitinha...fique a vontade. > > Wellcome! > > -geo- thank you geo.. and whatever else seems appropriate to what i don't understand. :-) ..b b.b. I said...dont be " impressed " we are just joking...wellcome -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Edg <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > >You must be your own light. > > >Werner > > > > > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are > > >you doing? I need the bread! > > >-geo- > > > > Geo, > > Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you got a brochure and a fee schedule? > > > > Werner, > > > > My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who have pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. > > > > But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation on ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? > > > > The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. Personal God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for money, or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had to first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina/status that prods one to pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. > > > > Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around who could possibly pull off omniscience or at least a good faking of omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough to include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. > > > > God asked, " Where am I? " > > > > An answer came: " Everywhere. " > > > > God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " > > > > An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in non-existence. " > > > > God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll expand My Beingness into nothingness. " > > > > A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " > > > > Edg > > > > > Edg, > > For me it is quite difficult if not impossible to give you an anwer which will be just to you and satisfy your hunger for wisdom. > > I myself have thrown all these ideas overboard because they are just ballast. > > Especially Ramana, no matter how promising and beatiful his words, will just make you greedy and finally desperate not being able to fulfill those promises. > > He should be the first to say good-bye to. > > Werner Werner, Hmmmmm, I don't do puja to Ramana, but he and Nisargadatta did yagyas, pujas, rites, propitiations, etc. They recognized that Bhakti was a secondary spiritual technique that was a more easily marketed technique to the masses than self inquiry in that an object of consciousness can be provided for the ego to " carry a chain like an elephant is when it's given to keep his trunk from mischief. " Yet, I don't believe either of them thought that reincarnation was a case of a soul transmigration event. Still, worshiping the Godhead (putting awareness upon amness, pure being,) gets one so close to the Absolute -- down there at the ritam level of creation where emotions are as solid as oak -- and from walking along that fence between amness and amness expressed as a combination of the three gunas, one can " slip into " pure being quite easily -- temporarily in samadhi. Getting jiggy with that method of transcendence and residing in amness/soul, the practiced ego is able to see that OM (the buzz of amness) is the primal sound which can be modulated into any other sound. (In the beginning was the word . . ..) This is the birth of God. And, the ego attaches to amness instead of any of the manifestations of amness (captures the fort of the territory instead of trying to capture the various outlying buildings.) This is a saint....a saint that is attached to being/God so intimately that the saint's mind is filled only with material that harmonizes with OM in a fundamental sense. This attachment is the last bond to break before enlightenment: the organism must recognize (cognize again) that it has never been sentient but merely is a clockworks that is God's attempt to embody infinity, and the clockworks mistakenly assumes authorship of the mind's contents. Thus the clockworks fails like a map cannot be the territory (for all have fallen short of the glory of God.) Holy Sin that, but sin nonetheless that keeps the organism pretending its an observer when its eyesight cannot see the contents of the dark. As if. At this point, yin cannot see yang. Then, flipflop, soul sees that Identity identifies with Identity -- and that amness' beauty and power and fecundity cannot entice Identity into any attaching to its magnificence despite being perfect. Having clarity about this status, the ego dies -- becomes a burnt rope -- becomes only what it has always been -- an editorial function, a mental dynamic. At last soul is at peace with this understanding, this realization that there never has been any suffering exactly as no ventriloquist's dummy has ever suffered even though the dummy has complained and whined and cried and shouted and, and, and. Where there is no sentience, no pain can be felt. After this comfort with amness is gained, the GREAT FLIPFLOP becomes likely. The inner guru tells you: " that's it. There's no more to acquire. You're the owner of all the laws of creation, can do anything 'from here,' but, but, but, don't. Doing can only be done by a doer, and you've got the tee shirt for that already, eh? So, just let go and let God, Me, do all the creating. While you've stepped aside and are letting me do the work, note that you're on the other side residing in your eternal status beyond relativity. Note that suddenly, you are no longer " merely God.' Enjoy true freedom. " Like that. That's the deal. Getting out of the Dummies R Us business. The soul has to finally realize the even God is a ventriloquist's dummy. And you never, no not ever, ever, ever, see the Absolute's lips move. Edg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:22 PM > Re: Hi! > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Werner Woehr > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:28 PM > > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:52 PM > > > > Re: Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marcelo Pires Ferreira > > > > > > <marcelovpf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everybody! > > > > > > > My name is Marcelo. I'm from Brasil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! I'm new here too. So far, I'm pleased with the authenticity > > > > > > of > > > > > > the scholarly acumen available here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eh, folks, is there a resident guru here to whom all turn for an > > > > > > authoritative delineation? I'm happy with Geo for the nonce. > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > > > > > > > > > > You must be your own light. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > you do pretty good for yourself wernie.. > > > > > > > > as a one watt wonder that is. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > C´mon....LOL....one watt? thats hardly a tiny led. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo, > > > > > > The best way to get rid of Bob-the-Fecalist is no longer to react to any > > > of > > > his posts. > > > > > > Everyone who is reacting and replying to Bob will hold him here and he > > > won't > > > leave. Bob needs attention and can't live without it. Please, ignore him > > > and > > > don't give him any more attention. Let him famish ... > > > > > > I know it is difficult for most people when thoughts are appearing to > > > renounce and not to express them. To abondon the urge to react and to > > > express one's thought is kind of a small death but you will survive it > > > and > > > you will gain strenght. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > Look...lets make a deal. If bbb stops calling me an assole....I stop > > > responding. But if he doesnt, I cant garantee...I have a reputation to > > > look > > > after. > > > > > > Geo, > > > > Bob is calling you an asshole because he knows how weak you are to react. > > He needs your reaction to go on and on with his game - your reaction is > > feeding his need for attention. > > > > For heaven's sake get strong, Geo. > > > > Next time I will tell you a bit about the term 'Identification with the > > Aggressor'. > > > > Werner > > for fuck sake werner get a goddamn clue. > > we're all idiots you clueless shithead. > > your thinking that you're other than that is stupid. > > and quit fucking begging people to do what you want them to do. > > you are a loser wernie. > > the word asshole is not a denigration. > > but you are a disgrace to the species touch hole. > > .b b.b. > > > > PS - Marcelo, não se assuste...é tudo brincadeitinha...fique a vontade. > > > Wellcome! > > > -geo- > > thank you geo.. > > and whatever else seems appropriate to what i don't understand. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > I said...dont be " impressed " we are just joking...wellcome > -geo- good stuff! now i understand. it takes me awhile sometimes. i'm not strong like wernie poo. what is that strong smell oozing out of him anyway? maybe earwax? he seems only to hear what he wants to hear. i'd say what he thinks he hears but.. he doesn't think. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Edg > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:41 PM > Re: Re: Hi! >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > >You must be your own light. > >Werner > > > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what are > >you doing? I need the bread! > >-geo- > > Geo, > Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you > got a brochure and a fee schedule? > > Werner, > > My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who have > pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the > inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. > > But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness > (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general > (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me > concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of > consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with > pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation on > ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? > > The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. Personal > God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but > conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " > is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for money, > or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. > (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had to > first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- > NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, > isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina-status that prods one to > pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's > clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from > egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole > soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. > > Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we > confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that > triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around > who could possibly pull of omniscience or at least a good faking of > omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put > God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the > non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough to > include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. > > God asked, " Where am I? " > > An answer came: " Everywhere. " > > God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " > > An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in > non-existence. " > > God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, > and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll > expand My Beingness into nothingness. " > > A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " > > Edg > > I see. The thing is that the binomial existence god-ultimate is not fixed > like a two faced statue. It is a dinamic balance. It moves from pole to > pole. There is a fundamental rithm to I-am-all/I-am-nothing, god/ultimate. > To a man/women not versed in these issues, fully immersed in the duality > me/periphery this rithm is reflected as me/they, or my-stuff/your-stuff, > me/society.....inner/outer. > -ego- Ego, Thanks for the poem -- it'll take a bit of rereading to see if I can pump my beliefs into it. My biggest immediate challenge is to see if I agree that the Absolute can be found to be saying " I'm nothing. " Eeek....has to be a thinker to do that, eh? Outta here...might post more later, but probably not until tomorrow. I'm enjoying this. Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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