Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 - duveyoung Nisargadatta Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:21 PM Re: Hi! Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Edg > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:41 PM > Re: Re: Hi! >Are you in need for a guru, Edg ? > >You must be your own light. > >Werner > > > >Hei!!! I have kids who eat, go to school, a car that drinks gas....what > >are > >you doing? I need the bread! > >-geo- > > Geo, > Wait just a durned second; are you charging me for your answers? Have you > got a brochure and a fee schedule? > > Werner, > > My outer gurus are legion but Nisargadatta and Ramana are the ones who > have > pushed me the most to walk the talk and do inquiry. So they push, and the > inner guru, er, um, sucks? Hee hee. > > But, yeah, I do need a guru, right? I do need an object of consciousness > (thorn) to remove my attachments to objects of consciousness in general > (other thorns,) and outer gurus serve me quite well in terms of giving me > concepts to battle my personal psychological indulgences in objects of > consciousness that are re-iterated and saturate my nervous system with > pathways that will echo again and again in my future mind.....by fixation > on > ideation we build the platform for future noise, ya see? > > The inner guru, THAT, is still masked by at least two veneers -- 1. > Personal > God (say, Brahma) pretending to be able to manifest anything, but > conveniently not mentioning that, enlightenment, " freedom from qualities. " > is not on His restaurant's menu. Can't buy that dish there -- not for > money, > or loyalty, or relentlessness or one's first born sliced up on an altar. > (And, hey, He couldn't create a single thing until He got it that He had > to > first do tapas, ((samyama,)) right? That is, surrender to the Absolute -- > NOT His own ability to create.) And 2. Personhood, ego, individuality, > isolation, etc. as the most immediate patina-status that prods one to > pretend God isn't creating thoughts but that, instead, it is one's > clockworks that are doing so -- instead of seeing them arising from > egoic-amness which has a transcendental status of universality -- a sole > soul for all -- the ultimate Mask. > > Who sees our thoughts -- THAT. Who takes credit for it? Me and God, cuz we > confuse the ability to generate a thought with the Living Intent that > triggered it. God can argue and win in court that He's the only One around > who could possibly pull of omniscience or at least a good faking of > omniscience that could be the basis of generating thoughts, but Godel put > God in His place: God can only delineate conceptual truths -- not the > non-conceptualities. God deals with what is. The Absolute is large enough > to > include non-conceptuality too....and beyond. > > God asked, " Where am I? " > > An answer came: " Everywhere. " > > God asked, " Everywhere? Are you sure? Is there anywhere that I am not? " > > An answer came: " Yes, You are not nowhere. You are not present in > non-existence. " > > God said, " Fucking hell you say? Well, I'll show you, I'll go nowhere too, > and be nothing to the hilt, I'll just show you. I'll do 'Be Coming.' I'll > expand My Beingness into nothingness. " > > A reply: " Um, better talk to the Absolute if you're gunna try that. " > > Edg > > I see. The thing is that the binomial existence god-ultimate is not fixed > like a two faced statue. It is a dinamic balance. It moves from pole to > pole. There is a fundamental rithm to I-am-all/I-am-nothing, god/ultimate. > To a man/women not versed in these issues, fully immersed in the duality > me/periphery this rithm is reflected as me/they, or my-stuff/your-stuff, > me/society.....inner/outer. > -ego- Ego, Thanks for the poem -- it'll take a bit of rereading to see if I can pump my beliefs into it. My biggest immediate challenge is to see if I agree that the Absolute can be found to be saying " I'm nothing. " Eeek....has to be a thinker to do that, eh? Outta here...might post more later, but probably not until tomorrow. I'm enjoying this. Edg No! Never! I am nothing can not be uttered. Total perception-being of the manifest is the only afirmation of the non-manifest - at one end of the pole. The other end...well...as Don Juan would say " there is such a world of nothingness but there is none there " . It is just a timeless second...hmmm -egg- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > good stuff! > > now i understand. > > it takes me awhile sometimes. > > i'm not strong like wernie poo. > > what is that strong smell oozing out of him anyway? The two of you sort of ooze and merge together. He's oozing out of you, you're oozing out of him ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > good stuff! > > > > now i understand. > > > > it takes me awhile sometimes. > > > > i'm not strong like wernie poo. > > > > what is that strong smell oozing out of him anyway? > > The two of you sort of ooze and merge together. He's oozing out of > you, you're oozing out of him ;-). It's like Quato in that movie, " Total Recall " ... he's a mutant coming out of your chest, you're a mutant coming out of his. And I stand alone, outside of it, watching the two mutants devour each other (chuckling ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > good stuff! > > > > > > now i understand. > > > > > > it takes me awhile sometimes. > > > > > > i'm not strong like wernie poo. > > > > > > what is that strong smell oozing out of him anyway? > > > > The two of you sort of ooze and merge together. He's oozing out of > > you, you're oozing out of him ;-). > > It's like Quato in that movie, " Total Recall " ... he's a mutant coming out of your chest, you're a mutant coming out of his. And I stand alone, outside of it, watching the two mutants devour each other (chuckling ;-). you have no standing anywhere kid. and you have even less understanding. however i think you must be standing under werner's oozing.. what de fuck's de matter wid you oozey? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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