Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM Thorn to remove thorn Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is conceptually referred to as the Absolute. -doug- Does that mean there is no THAT? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > Thorn to remove thorn > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > -doug- > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > -geo- > Yes THAT is also a concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > -doug- > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > -geo- > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > Thorn to remove thorn > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > -doug- > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > -geo- > Yes THAT is also a concept. geo> And THIS as it is being it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > -doug- > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > -geo- > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or are not? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > -doug- > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > -geo- > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or are >not? " geo> Yes...The Who....indeed. - - - - - Both groups are fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > -doug- > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > -geo- > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or are >not? " geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > -doug- > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > -geo- > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or are > >not? " > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > >Emphatically NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > -doug- > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > -geo- > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or > >are > >not? " > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > >Emphatically NO. geo>What is the nature of concepts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or > > >are > > >not? " > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > >Emphatically NO. > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > to > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or > > >are > > >not? " > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > >Emphatically NO. > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? geo> Geo or doug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts to > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > -doug- > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > -geo- > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. duggymitch has one big hole in his head. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > to > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or > > >are > > >not? " > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > >Emphatically NO. > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it becomes known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > > to > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which is > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are or > > > >are > > > >not? " > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it becomes > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. you don't think so? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > > to > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which > > > > > is > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are > > > >or > > > >are > > > >not? " > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > becomes > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. you don't think so? ..b b.b. Yes...I dont -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > > > to > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which > > > > > > is > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are > > > > >or > > > > >are > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > becomes > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > you don't think so? > > .b b.b. > > Yes...I dont > -geo- you don't say! no wait.. you did. you do say that you did say you don't right? doggone it's a didgeridoo. ..b b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are > > > > > >or > > > > > >are > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > becomes > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > you don't think so? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Yes...I dont > > -geo- > > > you don't say! > > no wait.. > > you did. > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > .b b. ...and b. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > to > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT > > > > >are > > > > >or > > > > >are > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > becomes > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > you don't think so? > > .b b.b. > > Yes...I dont > -geo- you don't say! no wait.. you did. you do say that you did say you don't right? doggone it's a didgeridoo. ..b b. doadodid nadidgo -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used concepts > > > > > > to > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT which > > > > > > is > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT are > > > > >or > > > > >are > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > becomes > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. P: Well, then, The nature of anything is both unknown and unknowable, and that goes for our true nature as well. We are dogs who like to bark. We mean nothing by it. Barking is fun. Now I agree, you have to be a dog to enjoy it, and some dogs prefer to bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:14 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > to > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT > > > > >are > > > > >or > > > > >are > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > becomes > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. P: Well, then, The nature of anything is both unknown and unknowable, and that goes for our true nature as well. We are dogs who like to bark. We mean nothing by it. Barking is fun. Now I agree, you have to be a dog to enjoy it, and some dogs prefer to bite. geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 > > geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? > Shut up! Sit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT > > > > > >are > > > > > >or > > > > > >are > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > becomes > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > you don't think so? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Yes...I dont > > -geo- > > you don't say! > > no wait.. > > you did. > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > .b b. > > doadodid nadidgo > -geo- og mandino ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT > > > > > >are > > > > > >or > > > > > >are > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > becomes > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > you don't think so? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Yes...I dont > > -geo- > > you don't say! > > no wait.. > > you did. > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > .b b. > > doadodid nadidgo > -geo- og mandino ..b b.b. Never read him -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:24 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? > Shut up! Sit! -pete- I told you about my uncle...he started kind of like that....we had to call the doctors and all that...poor man..... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT > > > > > >are > > > > > >or > > > > > >are > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > becomes > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > you don't think so? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Yes...I dont > > -geo- > > you don't say! > > no wait.. > > you did. > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > .b b. > > doadodid nadidgo > -geo- og mandino ..b b.b. Never read him. Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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