Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM > Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > cerosoul > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and IT > > > > > > >are > > > > > > >or > > > > > > >are > > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > > becomes > > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > > > you don't think so? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Yes...I dont > > > -geo- > > > > you don't say! > > > > no wait.. > > > > you did. > > > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > > > .b b. > > > > doadodid nadidgo > > -geo- > > og mandino > > .b b.b. > > Never read him. > Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) > -geo- he's fucking amazing! nice taste in music and music man geo. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:52 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM > Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > cerosoul > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and > > > > > > >IT > > > > > > >are > > > > > > >or > > > > > > >are > > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > > becomes > > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > > > you don't think so? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Yes...I dont > > > -geo- > > > > you don't say! > > > > no wait.. > > > > you did. > > > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > > > .b b. > > > > doadodid nadidgo > > -geo- > > og mandino > > .b b.b. > > Never read him. > Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) > -geo- he's fucking amazing! nice taste in music and music man geo. ..b b.b. I like him, but if he could be a tiny bit " cleaner " I would like him even more. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - cerosoul Nisargadatta Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:24 PM Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? > Shut up! Sit! -pete- But it is funny that you suddenly took it personaly. I was referring to something totaly impersonal. There is the unknown, that eventualy may become known, the unknowable and the known. These are aspects/parts of what is...are they not? Never mind.... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > cerosoul > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:24 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? > > > > Shut up! Sit! > -pete- > > But it is funny that you suddenly took it personaly. I was referring to > something totaly impersonal. There is the unknown, that eventualy may become > known, the unknowable and the known. These are aspects/parts of what > is...are they not? Never mind.... > -geo- P: I didn't take what you wrote personally. You were barking your nonsense as usual, and I told you to shut up, and meditate. There is no known whatsoever! What do we know totally? not a thing. There is only " know how " as manipulation of the unknown, a make belief knowledge. That's all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > cerosoul > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:24 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? > > > > > > > Shut up! Sit! > > -pete- > > > > But it is funny that you suddenly took it personaly. I was referring to > > something totaly impersonal. There is the unknown, that eventualy may become > > known, the unknowable and the known. These are aspects/parts of what > > is...are they not? Never mind.... > > -geo- > > P: I didn't take what you wrote personally. You > were barking your nonsense as usual, and I told > you to shut up, and meditate. Yup, better listen to Pete, Geo, or he's gonna come over to your house and beat you up ;-). Cheers, all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > cerosoul > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:24 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> ...unknown and unknowable.....and known. Dont you know the known? > > > > > > > > > > Shut up! Sit! > > > -pete- > > > > > > But it is funny that you suddenly took it personaly. I was referring to > > > something totaly impersonal. There is the unknown, that eventualy may become > > > known, the unknowable and the known. These are aspects/parts of what > > > is...are they not? Never mind.... > > > -geo- > > > > P: I didn't take what you wrote personally. You > > were barking your nonsense as usual, and I told > > you to shut up, and meditate. > > Yup, better listen to Pete, Geo, or he's gonna come over to your house and beat you up ;-). > > Cheers, all... > Pete's quite accomplished with the zen-stick. Whack! Wake up! (Right in the middle of mediation, no less.) ;-) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:52 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM > > Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > cerosoul > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about THAT > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and > > > > > > > >IT > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when it > > > > > becomes > > > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > > > > > you don't think so? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Yes...I dont > > > > -geo- > > > > > > you don't say! > > > > > > no wait.. > > > > > > you did. > > > > > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > > > > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > > > > > .b b. > > > > > > doadodid nadidgo > > > -geo- > > > > og mandino > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Never read him. > > Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) > > -geo- > > he's fucking amazing! > > nice taste in music and music man geo. > > .b b.b. > > I like him, but if he could be a tiny bit " cleaner " I would like him even > more. > -geo- i know what you mean but.. with today's tech: sequencing..quantization..sampling..synthesizing.. and host of other digital magic.. (the engineers in my studios use this shit constantly).. the pitch and pith of tonality and perfection.. are obtained with touches on screens and keypads. i still like " chops " and sweet " licks " .. with the touch of the flawed human element in command and control. the mystery of soul is not found or heard in numerical perfection. this " perfection " of pitch and play lacks wonderment...the " cool " . it's the " great loss " in today's digital age of music. but definitely each to their own. when writing...arranging....or producing.. i must say that i utilize all the toys. but not without sometimes succumbing to a nostalgic longing for days gone by and tunes once enjoyed. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 9:39 AM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:52 PM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM > > Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > cerosoul > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about > > > > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and > > > > > > > >IT > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when > > > > > it > > > > > becomes > > > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > > > > > you don't think so? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Yes...I dont > > > > -geo- > > > > > > you don't say! > > > > > > no wait.. > > > > > > you did. > > > > > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > > > > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > > > > > .b b. > > > > > > doadodid nadidgo > > > -geo- > > > > og mandino > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Never read him. > > Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) > > -geo- > > he's fucking amazing! > > nice taste in music and music man geo. > > .b b.b. > > I like him, but if he could be a tiny bit " cleaner " I would like him even > more. > -geo- i know what you mean but.. with today's tech: sequencing..quantization..sampling..synthesizing.. and host of other digital magic.. (the engineers in my studios use this shit constantly).. the pitch and pith of tonality and perfection.. are obtained with touches on screens and keypads. i still like " chops " and sweet " licks " .. with the touch of the flawed human element in command and control. the mystery of soul is not found or heard in numerical perfection. this " perfection " of pitch and play lacks wonderment...the " cool " . it's the " great loss " in today's digital age of music. but definitely each to their own. when writing...arranging....or producing.. i must say that i utilize all the toys. but not without sometimes succumbing to a nostalgic longing for days gone by and tunes once enjoyed. ..b b.b. I dont mean cleaning the " sound " of the strings...it is something in his style. After 30 mints..it gets a bit tireing -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 9:39 AM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:52 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM > > > Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > cerosoul > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He used > > > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about > > > > > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS and > > > > > > > > >IT > > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on when > > > > > > it > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > > > > > > > you don't think so? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Yes...I dont > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > you don't say! > > > > > > > > no wait.. > > > > > > > > you did. > > > > > > > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > > > > > > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > > > > > > > .b b. > > > > > > > > doadodid nadidgo > > > > -geo- > > > > > > og mandino > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Never read him. > > > Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) > > > -geo- > > > > he's fucking amazing! > > > > nice taste in music and music man geo. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I like him, but if he could be a tiny bit " cleaner " I would like him even > > more. > > -geo- > > i know what you mean but.. > > with today's tech: > > sequencing..quantization..sampling..synthesizing.. > > and host of other digital magic.. > > (the engineers in my studios use this shit constantly).. > > the pitch and pith of tonality and perfection.. > > are obtained with touches on screens and keypads. > > i still like " chops " and sweet " licks " .. > > with the touch of the flawed human element in command and control. > > the mystery of soul is not found or heard in numerical perfection. > > this " perfection " of pitch and play lacks wonderment...the " cool " . > > it's the " great loss " in today's digital age of music. > > but definitely each to their own. > > when writing...arranging....or producing.. > > i must say that i utilize all the toys. > > but not without sometimes succumbing > > to a nostalgic longing for days gone by and tunes once enjoyed. > > .b b.b. > > I dont mean cleaning the " sound " of the strings...it is something in his > style. After 30 mints..it gets a bit tireing > -geo- tiring? how 'bout Django Reinhardt? or Bereilli Lagrene? or Hendrix? i dunno geo..music has been my life's metier.. i never tire of ANY music. not even Satie or Phillip Glass...or even Rap. it is what it is and all of it's beautiful for me. but..to each their own and their own limitations i guess. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 11:22 AM Re: Thorn to remove thorn Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 9:39 AM > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:52 PM > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:02 PM > > > Re: Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:26 PM > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:06 PM > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:50 PM > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > cerosoul > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:35 PM > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:19 PM > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:09 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:50 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > douglasmitch1963 > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > Thorn to remove thorn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything that Nisargadatta said was conceptual. He > > > > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > remove concepts. Ultimately nothing can be known about > > > > > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > conceptually referred to as the Absolute. > > > > > > > > > > -doug- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean there is no THAT? > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes THAT is also a concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> And THIS as it is being it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As Nisargadatta would reply, " Who wants to know what THIS > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > >IT > > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > > >are > > > > > > > > >not? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> BTW...is there anything non-conceptual at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Emphatically NO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo>What is the nature of concepts? > > > > > > > > > > > > P: What part of " unknown " you don't understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> From the unknown I may have some understanding later on > > > > > > when > > > > > > it > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > known. From the unknowable...it is not an issue for thought. > > > > > > > > > > you don't think so? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Yes...I dont > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > you don't say! > > > > > > > > no wait.. > > > > > > > > you did. > > > > > > > > you do say that you did say you don't right? > > > > > > > > doggone it's a didgeridoo. > > > > > > > > .b b. > > > > > > > > doadodid nadidgo > > > > -geo- > > > > > > og mandino > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Never read him. > > > Watching Yamandú Costa on TV (accustic guitar) > > > -geo- > > > > he's fucking amazing! > > > > nice taste in music and music man geo. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I like him, but if he could be a tiny bit " cleaner " I would like him > > even > > more. > > -geo- > > i know what you mean but.. > > with today's tech: > > sequencing..quantization..sampling..synthesizing.. > > and host of other digital magic.. > > (the engineers in my studios use this shit constantly).. > > the pitch and pith of tonality and perfection.. > > are obtained with touches on screens and keypads. > > i still like " chops " and sweet " licks " .. > > with the touch of the flawed human element in command and control. > > the mystery of soul is not found or heard in numerical perfection. > > this " perfection " of pitch and play lacks wonderment...the " cool " . > > it's the " great loss " in today's digital age of music. > > but definitely each to their own. > > when writing...arranging....or producing.. > > i must say that i utilize all the toys. > > but not without sometimes succumbing > > to a nostalgic longing for days gone by and tunes once enjoyed. > > .b b.b. > > I dont mean cleaning the " sound " of the strings...it is something in his > style. After 30 mints..it gets a bit tireing > -geo- tiring? how 'bout Django Reinhardt? or Bereilli Lagrene? or Hendrix? i dunno geo..music has been my life's metier.. i never tire of ANY music. not even Satie or Phillip Glass...or even Rap. it is what it is and all of it's beautiful for me. but..to each their own and their own limitations i guess. ..b b.b. Love django, and yamandu also -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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