Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " not even that. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 9:46 AM More on concepts Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " -nis- Beig concept free...then what is.... is not concept. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " so are the notions of " big egos " ... wouldn't " you " think? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > wouldn't " you " think? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. and.. who's the " you " that: 1.... " collects " the concepts.. 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. 3.....believes this bullshit? ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 At 07:46 AM 7/20/2009, you wrote: Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " Edg: Inquiring minds want to know: is that woman a " hot chick " or " a skag? " If she's a magician who can conjure up the Emperor's New Kids On The Block, mmmmm, I'm thinking dinner and a movie with the babe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > wouldn't " you " think? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. and.. who's the " you " that: 1.... " collects " the concepts.. 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. 3.....believes this bullshit? ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly " new " world - without the observer -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Re: More on concepts At 07:46 AM 7/20/2009, you wrote: > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " Edg: Inquiring minds want to know: is that woman a " hot chick " or " a skag? " If she's a magician who can conjure up the Emperor's New Kids On The Block, mmmmm, I'm thinking dinner and a movie with the babe. don't forget to fuck her. no kids no child support. she'd be a fun night out no doubt. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the entire > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > and.. > > who's the " you " that: > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly > " new " world - without the observer > -geo- that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > entire > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > and.. > > who's the " you " that: > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly > " new " world - without the observer > -geo- that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. ..b b.b. Why do you question seeing w/o observer? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM Re: Re: More on concepts - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > entire > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > and.. > > who's the " you " that: > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly > " new " world - without the observer > -geo- that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. ..b b.b. Why do you question seeing w/o observer? If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of it are the same. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > Re: More on concepts > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > entire > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > and.. > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly > > " new " world - without the observer > > -geo- > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > .b b.b. > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of it > are the same. > -geo- > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > entire > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > and.. > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly > > " new " world - without the observer > > -geo- > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > .b b.b. > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > -geo- i don't question anything. there are no answers. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > Re: More on concepts > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > entire > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > and.. > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a totaly > > " new " world - without the observer > > -geo- > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > .b b.b. > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of it > are the same. > -geo- all talk is cheap. it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. lie's can only lie. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - duveyoung Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > Re: More on concepts > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > entire > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > and.. > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > totaly > > " new " world - without the observer > > -geo- > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > .b b.b. > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > it > are the same. > -geo- > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > Re: More on concepts > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > entire > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > and.. > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > totaly > > " new " world - without the observer > > -geo- > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > .b b.b. > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > it > are the same. > -geo- all talk is cheap. it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. lie's can only lie. ..b b.b. Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words can wake you up - or not. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > duveyoung > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > entire > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > totaly > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > -geo- > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > it > > are the same. > > -geo- > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - duveyoung Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 11:34 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > duveyoung > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > the > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > entire > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > totaly > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > -geo- > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > it > > are the same. > > -geo- > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? geo> I am calling awareness and the absolute the same. The absolute or awareness is the seer-seeing-seen processing. Awareness is like subatomic substance in consciousness molecules. The world is waves in awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > entire > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > totaly > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > -geo- > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > it > > are the same. > > -geo- > > all talk is cheap. > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > lie's can only lie. > > .b b.b. > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > can wake you up - or not. > -geo- of course i sleep like any you. in dreams of and by yous and mes. there are no such things as yous nor mes. nor dreams thereof. this too is a lie. both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... don't be fooled. " you " are believing in bullshit... maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. no one knows or can ever know. that's for certain. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > duveyoung > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > totaly > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > -geo- > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > it > > > are the same. > > > -geo- > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. when the Bear sits on the throne. just a thought. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image > in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness > is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness > " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > geo> I am calling awareness and the absolute the same. The absolute or > awareness is the seer-seeing-seen processing. > Awareness is like subatomic substance in consciousness molecules. The world > is waves in awareness. Edg: I'm not satisfied. Not that it's your job, but seems to me that awareness' trinity has to be entirely " in the relative. " The " seer " " portion " of the trinity seems to be a brain function -- not a non-physical entity observing " somewhere " from the stance of " not-a-where. " Language is a brutal torture, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > the > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > entire > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > totaly > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > -geo- > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > it > > are the same. > > -geo- > > all talk is cheap. > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > lie's can only lie. > > .b b.b. > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > can wake you up - or not. > -geo- of course i sleep like any you. in dreams of and by yous and mes. there are no such things as yous nor mes. nor dreams thereof. this too is a lie. both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... don't be fooled. " you " are believing in bullshit... maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. no one knows or can ever know. that's for certain. ..b b.b. You wrote: " don't enjoy ANY freedom. when however i have been gotten out of the way.. as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. and " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. of this 'persona " .. has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- geo> some moments...moments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > the > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > totaly > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > -geo- > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > it > > > are the same. > > > -geo- > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > can wake you up - or not. > > -geo- > > of course i sleep like any you. > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > nor dreams thereof. > > this too is a lie. > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > don't be fooled. > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > no one knows or can ever know. > > that's for certain. > > .b b.b. > > > > You wrote: > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > and > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > of this 'persona " .. > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > geo> some moments...moments.. nah.. bullshit like everything else said or done. don't be fooled. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 - duveyoung Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 12:04 PM Re: More on concepts > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an > image > in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that > awareness > is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness > " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > geo> I am calling awareness and the absolute the same. The absolute or > awareness is the seer-seeing-seen processing. > Awareness is like subatomic substance in consciousness molecules. The > world > is waves in awareness. Edg: I'm not satisfied. Not that it's your job, but seems to me that awareness' trinity has to be entirely " in the relative. " The " seer " " portion " of the trinity seems to be a brain function -- not a non-physical entity observing " somewhere " from the stance of " not-a-where. " Language is a brutal torture, eh? geo> This is not a language problem at all. You brought in a " trinity " and I dont know what you mean. But...the seer portion is absolutely NOT a brain function. The seeing, the eyes per-se see nothing without the absulute. The physical seeing is just an addition of quality. All and any events are patterns - empty patternings - in awareness/absolute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > duveyoung > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > geo > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > it > > > > > are the same. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > just a thought. > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > LOL!! > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. well of course you can't even understand a joke. it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. you're in love with me. you read everything i post.. including little dots. what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. you want to belong. never is that gonna happen asshole. not with me..not with charlie.. not with anybody living above ground. go back into your lonely hole asshole. you smell...like yourself. ain't nothin' worse than that. ROFLMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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