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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > well he's not afraid of using his own name.

> > >

> > > and he loves this unbelievable obsession of this day's postings.

> > >

> > > extremely interesting subject matter huh?

> >

> > Not at all... it's absurd, this avoidance. This refusal to 'look at

oneself'.

> >

> > One has heard that there's no self. Now, for God's sake, put that knowledge

to use!

> >

> > Take a good look at one formerly considered to be oneself, and see that it's

just a body, appearing now.

> >

> > Take a look at what one once considered to be one's past history, and see

that it's merely memory, arising now.

> >

> > The actual looking is necessary, or there will still seem to be a self. And

it must be serious, dedicated, un-interrupted, or will have no effect.

> >

>

>

> There's nothing more

>

> Inaccessible than the obvious.

 

 

Yes.

 

There's nothing more difficult to grasp

 

than totality that always already is

 

as is

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > just a question to all you know it alls.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > It seems the last question on earth Bob would ever ask is " Who am I " .

> > >

> > > He'd rather ask everyone else who he is!!!!!

> > >

> > > Well, we can wait for a nuclear war, I suppose... maybe he'll ask it then

;-).

> > >

> > > Peace..

> > >

> >

> >

> > There are two basic freedoms, IMO:

> >

> > The freedom to convince oneself that one is

> >

> > Indeed,

> >

> >

> > Free

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > And the freedom to convince oneself that one is

> >

> > Indeed,

> >

> >

> >

> > Not free

> >

> >

> >

> > May we celebrate BOTH freedoms!!

>

>

> you really really really like " free " don't you.

>

> makes sense considering.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose

 

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > well he's not afraid of using his own name.

> > > >

> > > > and he loves this unbelievable obsession of this day's postings.

> > > >

> > > > extremely interesting subject matter huh?

> > >

> > > Not at all... it's absurd, this avoidance. This refusal to 'look at

oneself'.

> > >

> > > One has heard that there's no self. Now, for God's sake, put that

knowledge to use!

> > >

> > > Take a good look at one formerly considered to be oneself, and see that

it's just a body, appearing now.

> > >

> > > Take a look at what one once considered to be one's past history, and see

that it's merely memory, arising now.

> > >

> > > The actual looking is necessary, or there will still seem to be a self.

And it must be serious, dedicated, un-interrupted, or will have no effect.

> > >

> >

> >

> > There's nothing more

> >

> > Inaccessible than the obvious.

>

>

> Yes.

>

> There's nothing more difficult to grasp

>

> than totality that always already is

>

> as is

>

 

 

 

 

Yes, yes.

 

There's nothing more difficult than

 

Difficulty.

 

 

There's nothing easier than

 

Ease.

 

 

 

Take my/your pick

 

My/your choice!

 

 

:))

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > just a question to all you know it alls.

> > > > >

> > > > > LOL!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > It seems the last question on earth Bob would ever ask is " Who am I " .

> > > >

> > > > He'd rather ask everyone else who he is!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Well, we can wait for a nuclear war, I suppose... maybe he'll ask it

then ;-).

> > > >

> > > > Peace..

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There are two basic freedoms, IMO:

> > >

> > > The freedom to convince oneself that one is

> > >

> > > Indeed,

> > >

> > >

> > > Free

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > And the freedom to convince oneself that one is

> > >

> > > Indeed,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not free

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > May we celebrate BOTH freedoms!!

> >

> >

> > you really really really like " free " don't you.

> >

> > makes sense considering.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

> freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose

>

>

> - d -

>

 

 

Yeah, but also,

 

Nothing left too loose,

 

Either.

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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > well he's not afraid of using his own name.

> > > > >

> > > > > and he loves this unbelievable obsession of this day's postings.

> > > > >

> > > > > extremely interesting subject matter huh?

> > > >

> > > > Not at all... it's absurd, this avoidance. This refusal to 'look at

oneself'.

> > > >

> > > > One has heard that there's no self. Now, for God's sake, put that

knowledge to use!

> > > >

> > > > Take a good look at one formerly considered to be oneself, and see that

it's just a body, appearing now.

> > > >

> > > > Take a look at what one once considered to be one's past history, and

see that it's merely memory, arising now.

> > > >

> > > > The actual looking is necessary, or there will still seem to be a self.

And it must be serious, dedicated, un-interrupted, or will have no effect.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There's nothing more

> > >

> > > Inaccessible than the obvious.

> >

> > Yup, it sure seems so. Uninteresting perhaps, too. It looks trivial even,

at least until it doesn't.

> >

>

>

> That's exactly the " problem "

>

> The mind of the " hero "

>

> Finds things " valuable "

>

> Only is as much as it involves

>

> Adversity

>

>

> Hence, all narratives, stories

>

> Involve antagonism

>

>

> The " problem " is that

>

> There is nothing

>

> Freer

>

> Than

>

>

> Freedom

>

>

>

>

> Itself

>

>

>

> THAT'S cosmic joke!!

 

 

Yes.

 

Nothing heroic.

 

Nothing gained.

 

No drama, no tension of opposites, no risk-taking then reward.

 

Just originally free as is.

 

Without any concept of freedom being involved.

 

Simple.

 

No room for I.

 

Or events over time.

 

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well he's not afraid of using his own name.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and he loves this unbelievable obsession of this day's postings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > extremely interesting subject matter huh?

> > > > >

> > > > > Not at all... it's absurd, this avoidance. This refusal to 'look at

oneself'.

> > > > >

> > > > > One has heard that there's no self. Now, for God's sake, put that

knowledge to use!

> > > > >

> > > > > Take a good look at one formerly considered to be oneself, and see

that it's just a body, appearing now.

> > > > >

> > > > > Take a look at what one once considered to be one's past history, and

see that it's merely memory, arising now.

> > > > >

> > > > > The actual looking is necessary, or there will still seem to be a

self. And it must be serious, dedicated, un-interrupted, or will have no

effect.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There's nothing more

> > > >

> > > > Inaccessible than the obvious.

> > >

> > > Yup, it sure seems so. Uninteresting perhaps, too. It looks trivial

even, at least until it doesn't.

> > >

> >

> >

> > That's exactly the " problem "

> >

> > The mind of the " hero "

> >

> > Finds things " valuable "

> >

> > Only is as much as it involves

> >

> > Adversity

> >

> >

> > Hence, all narratives, stories

> >

> > Involve antagonism

> >

> >

> > The " problem " is that

> >

> > There is nothing

> >

> > Freer

> >

> > Than

> >

> >

> > Freedom

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Itself

> >

> >

> >

> > THAT'S cosmic joke!!

>

>

> Yes.

>

> Nothing heroic.

>

> Nothing gained.

>

> No drama, no tension of opposites, no risk-taking then reward.

>

> Just originally free as is.

>

> Without any concept of freedom being involved.

>

> Simple.

>

> No room for I.

>

> Or events over time.

>

>

> - D -

>

 

 

Yeah,

 

But plenty of room

 

Too!

 

 

Plenty of room

 

For plenty of I, & co

 

 

Too!!!

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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > just a question to all you know it alls.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > LOL!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > It seems the last question on earth Bob would ever ask is " Who am I " .

> > > > >

> > > > > He'd rather ask everyone else who he is!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, we can wait for a nuclear war, I suppose... maybe he'll ask it

then ;-).

> > > > >

> > > > > Peace..

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There are two basic freedoms, IMO:

> > > >

> > > > The freedom to convince oneself that one is

> > > >

> > > > Indeed,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Free

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > And the freedom to convince oneself that one is

> > > >

> > > > Indeed,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Not free

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > May we celebrate BOTH freedoms!!

> > >

> > >

> > > you really really really like " free " don't you.

> > >

> > > makes sense considering.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> > freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose

> >

> >

> > - d -

> >

>

>

> Yeah, but also,

>

> Nothing left too loose,

>

> Either.

 

 

Nothing left too loose, Lautrec.

 

Nothing loose to leave, monsieur.

 

-- D --

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