Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. it's likely the same reason. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > it's likely the same reason. > > .b b.b. > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > > > it's likely the same reason. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. if someone could and did.. of what good would it be? i'm just saying that whatever " reason " was given.. would be as good as any other reason or reasoning proffered.. and as equally interesting but useless. they believe in it it because they don't disbelieve in it. how's that? and i'm not trying to be funny. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > > > > > it's likely the same reason. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. > > > if someone could and did.. > > of what good would it be? > > i'm just saying that whatever " reason " was given.. > > would be as good as any other reason or reasoning proffered.. > > and as equally interesting but useless. > > they believe in it it because they don't disbelieve in it. > > how's that? > > and i'm not trying to be funny. > > .b b.b. > I appreciate that, but am just curious because a Tibetan Buddhist friend of mine tried to explain it to me, and I kept saying it was all conceptual. She said it transcended consciousness, and Awareness chooses to reincarnate certain tendedncies of consciousness out of compassion for the ignorant masses. Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > > > > > > > it's likely the same reason. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. > > > > > > if someone could and did.. > > > > of what good would it be? > > > > i'm just saying that whatever " reason " was given.. > > > > would be as good as any other reason or reasoning proffered.. > > > > and as equally interesting but useless. > > > > they believe in it it because they don't disbelieve in it. > > > > how's that? > > > > and i'm not trying to be funny. > > > > .b b.b. > > I appreciate that, but am just curious because a Tibetan Buddhist friend of mine tried to explain it to me, and I kept saying it was all conceptual. She said it transcended consciousness, and Awareness chooses to reincarnate certain tendedncies of consciousness out of compassion for the ignorant masses. Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me though. i think you think right. but i don't think i really know what it is that i'm thinking.. or what it is that thinks me. that's a hell of a thought but it's more honest than the thinking.. of/by/as those who think they know anything about.. what it is they think or are thinking is thinking. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > > > > > > > > > it's likely the same reason. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. > > > > > > > > > if someone could and did.. > > > > > > of what good would it be? > > > > > > i'm just saying that whatever " reason " was given.. > > > > > > would be as good as any other reason or reasoning proffered.. > > > > > > and as equally interesting but useless. > > > > > > they believe in it it because they don't disbelieve in it. > > > > > > how's that? > > > > > > and i'm not trying to be funny. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > I appreciate that, but am just curious because a Tibetan Buddhist friend of mine tried to explain it to me, and I kept saying it was all conceptual. She said it transcended consciousness, and Awareness chooses to reincarnate certain tendedncies of consciousness out of compassion for the ignorant masses. Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me though. > > > i think you think right. > > but i don't think i really know what it is that i'm thinking.. > > or what it is that thinks me. > > that's a hell of a thought but it's more honest than the thinking.. > > of/by/as those who think they know anything about.. > > what it is they think or are thinking is thinking. > > .b b.b. > > " I " concur. Thanks for the honest nonvulgar response! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's likely the same reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > if someone could and did.. > > > > > > > > of what good would it be? > > > > > > > > i'm just saying that whatever " reason " was given.. > > > > > > > > would be as good as any other reason or reasoning proffered.. > > > > > > > > and as equally interesting but useless. > > > > > > > > they believe in it it because they don't disbelieve in it. > > > > > > > > how's that? > > > > > > > > and i'm not trying to be funny. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I appreciate that, but am just curious because a Tibetan Buddhist friend of mine tried to explain it to me, and I kept saying it was all conceptual. She said it transcended consciousness, and Awareness chooses to reincarnate certain tendedncies of consciousness out of compassion for the ignorant masses. Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me though. > > > > > > i think you think right. > > > > but i don't think i really know what it is that i'm thinking.. > > > > or what it is that thinks me. > > > > that's a hell of a thought but it's more honest than the thinking.. > > > > of/by/as those who think they know anything about.. > > > > what it is they think or are thinking is thinking. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > " I " concur. Thanks for the honest nonvulgar response! LOL oh hell! how the fuck did i let myself do that? i don't know what the fuck to think. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how can you believe that there is someone who can answer that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's likely the same reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not familiar with the Tibetan tradition. I was just wondering if " someome " was and could explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if someone could and did.. > > > > > > > > > > of what good would it be? > > > > > > > > > > i'm just saying that whatever " reason " was given.. > > > > > > > > > > would be as good as any other reason or reasoning proffered.. > > > > > > > > > > and as equally interesting but useless. > > > > > > > > > > they believe in it it because they don't disbelieve in it. > > > > > > > > > > how's that? > > > > > > > > > > and i'm not trying to be funny. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > I appreciate that, but am just curious because a Tibetan Buddhist friend of mine tried to explain it to me, and I kept saying it was all conceptual. She said it transcended consciousness, and Awareness chooses to reincarnate certain tendedncies of consciousness out of compassion for the ignorant masses. Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me though. > > > > > > > > > i think you think right. > > > > > > but i don't think i really know what it is that i'm thinking.. > > > > > > or what it is that thinks me. > > > > > > that's a hell of a thought but it's more honest than the thinking.. > > > > > > of/by/as those who think they know anything about.. > > > > > > what it is they think or are thinking is thinking. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > " I " concur. Thanks for the honest nonvulgar response! LOL > > > oh hell! > > how the fuck did i let myself do that? > > i don't know what the fuck to think. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > >:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 - > > > >D: Nisargadatta was clear that there is no such thing as reincarnation. Tibetan Buddhism has a different take. They also do not believe in an inherent self, but that tendencies of consciousness get reborn, especially of tulkus. Can someone explain to me how Tibetan Buddhism can still believe in reincarnation? > > > > > > > > > P: Does Douglass believe in anything? If so, why does he? Does he want to survive his death in any way? If so, a belief is needed. Does it make any difference what that belief is? Can a belief change death? It only can calm fears. Reincarnation of genes is a fact. Life reincarnates as generic life in each new individual. Life cares not for individuality. In many species of insects and fish the individual dies as soon as it passes its genes. It's only in higher species that individual life is protected beyond procreation, mainly because the young need nurture. In humans a new type of reincarnation and a new type of evolution appears, that of cultural memes. A thinking brain gets infested by a strange virtual parasite called self. It's downright ironic that something that has no real life of its own, something that is only a virtual representation, is obsessed with proving its reality and its immortality. It's a glitch in the machine. A glorious tragic mistake. Humans are the only animal capable of experiencing tragedy. Laughter, Heaven, and reincarnation are valves to relief the incredible pressure of living with the knowledge of death. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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