Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have a friend who wants to commit suicide, Says she's GOING to do it unless her boyfriend stops fucking around. She insists that HE'S the one MAKING HER suffer. She won't accept that SHE'S MAKING HIM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. Won't. Can't. Her body's burning up inside with anguish. She says she'd be a WIMP to put up with what he's doing. And that if she accepts IT as an illusion, a dream, THEN she'd be wimping out. But I say that she's a wimp for giving " another " Control over her life. I say that anyone who gives anything but one's SELF " control " (whatever that is) over one's life Is a wimp. The minute one says " You " One becomes a " wimp " There is only ONE One eye, One I, one Self, one Youniverse: I. The " rest " is wimpdom. And fuck " me " The minute I believe in " You " So, she just wants to get fucked By a higher power because she's too Wimpy to BE ALL THE POWER. And that goes for " YOU " too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 What? No compassion for the human condition of trusting others only to find that those others don't have any say on what their next thought or action will be? Don't tell me you don't have that compassion. Don't tell me your life is so controlled that you've never found yourself having invested in a future you thought someone else could/should/would deliver and then: it evaporated. Don't tell me you've never fallen instantly in love with someone, or that it wasn't overwhelmingly certain to you that you'd always find that person to be an ocean of pleasures to dwell with. If you want your compassion to be wise, then force it to apply to both parties. The guy is certain to have invested in his projections of future only to find that his mind had, well, literally, other ideas to shove onto the stage to do a tap dance in his awareness' spotlight -- other thoughts -- other thoughts that make him out to be a liar, other thoughts that make him a false promise maker, a cheat, a hypocrite.....now there's your compassion target: poor guy thought he was a white knight and found out he was a black nightmare instead. If he has even a speck of honesty, he'll have to wince in a mirror for the rest of his life that he fucked things up so much so deeply so thoroughly and so differently than he ever intended or envisioned for himself. In other words: that he had a moment where he could see so easily that he has nothing to do with his thoughts but still misses the wisdom lesson of the experience -- talk about someone needing compassion. As for her giving up her power to another, again I ask, who hasn't done that? Tell her to profit from that. How? By going to the guy and absolutely laying it all out how they both have arrived at a disaster because of their assumptions and now there they are with self thrown cream pies in their own faces. And to laugh at the joke of it. This is the true basis of relationship: recognition that moment by moment anything wonderful is a preciousness that may never be yours to experience again like hanging ten on a surf board on a 60 foot wave. Tell her to take his hand again in that knowledge and glorify that which was theirs -- for but a moment yes, but a moment that was so delicious that they invested in a relationship despite all the red flags waving. To use that as their metric -- that they did find, however temporarily, themselves walking like innocents in Eden. Then, having seen the glories, tell her to enter with him the darknesses of a perfect uncertainty about each other and see it as an act of the highest faith that whatever will flow through their lives can be delightful if but they see themselves as two survivors clinging to a raft in a storm and grok that they are most in love when neither has anything to offer the other anything but what is right there. There's your platform for the greatest love: to dwell with the unknownability of each other and face that fierce truth with the hearts of warriors in the heat of battle back to back surrounded on all sides but standing together without reason in a surrendering to the karma of each other that even the gods gather to absorb the cosmic dynamics at play. To fall in love is always a case of stepping off a cliff with each other and doing so with the knowledge that anything can happen -- even the law of gravity might pause agog in the face of a perfect faith. Oh, inquiry and all that is a better spiritual technique, but show me two lovers only minutes into their relationship, and I'll show you the platform from which to take a deep dive into an ego shredder. Got my attention -- pher shur. Tell her that killing oneself is deciding to have the thought " I'm dead " as one vibrates in that mono-experience for, say, a million years before even one other thought can intrude enough to even begin to move her to reincarnating again. It's a lie, but as lies go, that might be a sobering concept about what suicide actually entails enough to call her on her drama-queen shit and brace her with the spirituality of her angst. If she can't surrender to uncertainty, then tell her she is the liar, the faithless person who should never have hooked up with the guy in the first place, and by owing her error make, um, error-ade from it. Edg Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > I have a friend who wants to commit suicide, > > Says she's GOING to do it unless her boyfriend stops fucking around. > > > She insists that HE'S the one MAKING HER suffer. > > She won't accept that SHE'S MAKING HIM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. > > > Won't. Can't. Her body's burning up inside with anguish. > > She says she'd be a WIMP to put up with what he's doing. > > > And that if she accepts IT as an illusion, a dream, > > THEN she'd be wimping out. > > > But I say that she's a wimp for giving " another " > > Control over her life. > > > I say that anyone who gives anything but one's > > SELF " control " (whatever that is) over one's life > > Is a wimp. > > > The minute one says > > " You " > > One becomes a " wimp " > > > There is only ONE > > One eye, > > One I, one Self, one Youniverse: I. > > > The " rest " is wimpdom. > > > And fuck " me " > > The minute I believe in > > " You " > > > So, she just wants to get fucked > > By a higher power because she's too > > Wimpy to BE ALL THE POWER. > > > And that goes for > > " YOU " too. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > I have a friend who wants to commit suicide, > > Says she's GOING to do it unless her boyfriend stops fucking around. > > > She insists that HE'S the one MAKING HER suffer. > > She won't accept that SHE'S MAKING HIM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. > > > Won't. Can't. Her body's burning up inside with anguish. > > She says she'd be a WIMP to put up with what he's doing. > > > And that if she accepts IT as an illusion, a dream, > > THEN she'd be wimping out. > > > But I say that she's a wimp for giving " another " > > Control over her life. > > > I say that anyone who gives anything but one's > > SELF " control " (whatever that is) over one's life > > Is a wimp. > > > The minute one says > > " You " > > One becomes a " wimp " > > > There is only ONE > > One eye, > > One I, one Self, one Youniverse: I. > > > The " rest " is wimpdom. > > > And fuck " me " > > The minute I believe in > > " You " > > > So, she just wants to get fucked > > By a higher power because she's too > > Wimpy to BE ALL THE POWER. > > > And that goes for > > " YOU " too. > As Toomie would say: Nnnniiiiiccce! (...or something like that.) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Exquisitely well written symphony, Edge! Right there on the cutting edge, fer shur! I'm kidding a little, right there on the edge, myself, But I'm sincere in my genuine approval. Believe me if you can. On the other hand, Just like what I wrote, Yours, too, is just a sym phony. No offense, I already said I love it, OK? Still: 1. I have compassion for my/her/their/y/our dream because I HAVE been there. Am there. Are there. Is there. It's easy. I have compassion, effortlessly, it is nature. 2. If what you say takes no force, that is, flows freely as though on it's own accord, sure, I'm flowing right along. No problem. We're all already there. Its just all in one. 3. The minute there's any effort, the minute there's any suffering, any coercion, going against the grain, swimming against the tide, I'm history, I'm gone, include me out. To suffer is to wimp, to wimp is to suffer. I won't wimp into the contract, the illusion, the dream, the maya. 4. So, that's the bottom line. I'm with you all the way as an expression of ease, effortlessness, love, freedom, beauty, self empowerment, independence, autonomy, joy, bliss, ecstasy, humor, goodness grace us. But the instant it's anything less than that. Poof, the dream, dharma, drama, horra is over and I'm gone. Bye. 5. And I don't care what " you " think of that. Infinite Blessings > What? No compassion for the human condition of trusting others only to find that those others don't have any say on what their next thought or action will be? > > Don't tell me you don't have that compassion. Don't tell me your life is so controlled that you've never found yourself having invested in a future you thought someone else could/should/would deliver and then: it evaporated. Don't tell me you've never fallen instantly in love with someone, or that it wasn't overwhelmingly certain to you that you'd always find that person to be an ocean of pleasures to dwell with. > > If you want your compassion to be wise, then force it to apply to both parties. The guy is certain to have invested in his projections of future only to find that his mind had, well, literally, other ideas to shove onto the stage to do a tap dance in his awareness' spotlight -- other thoughts -- other thoughts that make him out to be a liar, other thoughts that make him a false promise maker, a cheat, a hypocrite.....now there's your compassion target: poor guy thought he was a white knight and found out he was a black nightmare instead. If he has even a speck of honesty, he'll have to wince in a mirror for the rest of his life that he fucked things up so much so deeply so thoroughly and so differently than he ever intended or envisioned for himself. In other words: that he had a moment where he could see so easily that he has nothing to do with his thoughts but still misses the wisdom lesson of the experience -- talk about someone needing compassion. > > As for her giving up her power to another, again I ask, who hasn't done that? Tell her to profit from that. How? By going to the guy and absolutely laying it all out how they both have arrived at a disaster because of their assumptions and now there they are with self thrown cream pies in their own faces. And to laugh at the joke of it. > > This is the true basis of relationship: recognition that moment by moment anything wonderful is a preciousness that may never be yours to experience again like hanging ten on a surf board on a 60 foot wave. Tell her to take his hand again in that knowledge and glorify that which was theirs -- for but a moment yes, but a moment that was so delicious that they invested in a relationship despite all the red flags waving. To use that as their metric -- that they did find, however temporarily, themselves walking like innocents in Eden. > > Then, having seen the glories, tell her to enter with him the darknesses of a perfect uncertainty about each other and see it as an act of the highest faith that whatever will flow through their lives can be delightful if but they see themselves as two survivors clinging to a raft in a storm and grok that they are most in love when neither has anything to offer the other anything but what is right there. There's your platform for the greatest love: to dwell with the unknownability of each other and face that fierce truth with the hearts of warriors in the heat of battle back to back surrounded on all sides but standing together without reason in a surrendering to the karma of each other that even the gods gather to absorb the cosmic dynamics at play. > > To fall in love is always a case of stepping off a cliff with each other and doing so with the knowledge that anything can happen -- even the law of gravity might pause agog in the face of a perfect faith. > > Oh, inquiry and all that is a better spiritual technique, but show me two lovers only minutes into their relationship, and I'll show you the platform from which to take a deep dive into an ego shredder. Got my attention -- pher shur. > > Tell her that killing oneself is deciding to have the thought " I'm dead " as one vibrates in that mono-experience for, say, a million years before even one other thought can intrude enough to even begin to move her to reincarnating again. It's a lie, but as lies go, that might be a sobering concept about what suicide actually entails enough to call her on her drama-queen shit and brace her with the spirituality of her angst. > > If she can't surrender to uncertainty, then tell her she is the liar, the faithless person who should never have hooked up with the guy in the first place, and by owing her error make, um, error-ade from it. > > Edg > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > I have a friend who wants to commit suicide, > > > > Says she's GOING to do it unless her boyfriend stops fucking around. > > > > > > She insists that HE'S the one MAKING HER suffer. > > > > She won't accept that SHE'S MAKING HIM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. > > > > > > Won't. Can't. Her body's burning up inside with anguish. > > > > She says she'd be a WIMP to put up with what he's doing. > > > > > > And that if she accepts IT as an illusion, a dream, > > > > THEN she'd be wimping out. > > > > > > But I say that she's a wimp for giving " another " > > > > Control over her life. > > > > > > I say that anyone who gives anything but one's > > > > SELF " control " (whatever that is) over one's life > > > > Is a wimp. > > > > > > The minute one says > > > > " You " > > > > One becomes a " wimp " > > > > > > There is only ONE > > > > One eye, > > > > One I, one Self, one Youniverse: I. > > > > > > The " rest " is wimpdom. > > > > > > And fuck " me " > > > > The minute I believe in > > > > " You " > > > > > > So, she just wants to get fucked > > > > By a higher power because she's too > > > > Wimpy to BE ALL THE POWER. > > > > > > And that goes for > > > > " YOU " too. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > I have a friend who wants to commit suicide, > > > > Says she's GOING to do it unless her boyfriend stops fucking around. > > > > > > She insists that HE'S the one MAKING HER suffer. > > > > She won't accept that SHE'S MAKING HIM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. > > > > > > Won't. Can't. Her body's burning up inside with anguish. > > > > She says she'd be a WIMP to put up with what he's doing. > > > > > > And that if she accepts IT as an illusion, a dream, > > > > THEN she'd be wimping out. > > > > > > But I say that she's a wimp for giving " another " > > > > Control over her life. > > > > > > I say that anyone who gives anything but one's > > > > SELF " control " (whatever that is) over one's life > > > > Is a wimp. > > > > > > The minute one says > > > > " You " > > > > One becomes a " wimp " > > > > > > There is only ONE > > > > One eye, > > > > One I, one Self, one Youniverse: I. > > > > > > The " rest " is wimpdom. > > > > > > And fuck " me " > > > > The minute I believe in > > > > " You " > > > > > > So, she just wants to get fucked > > > > By a higher power because she's too > > > > Wimpy to BE ALL THE POWER. > > > > > > And that goes for > > > > " YOU " too. > > > > > As Toomie would say: Nnnniiiiiccce! (...or something like that.) > > ~A > You're such a kiss ass! You don't even mean Toomie. You mean Borat! (Now, Anna, don't nail me on this!!! I'm only playing rough, like you like it. I don't like it. I'm just doing it to Please " YOU " LOL Now, again, Anna: Observe the tongue firmly BULGING IN my cheek: Tongue in cheek, OK!!!!????) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > I have a friend who wants to commit suicide, first off.. you don't have any friends. all the rest is pure bullshit. nobody cares. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>nothing new but delusional crap below<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Says she's GOING to do it unless her boyfriend stops fucking around. > > > She insists that HE'S the one MAKING HER suffer. > > She won't accept that SHE'S MAKING HIM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. > > > Won't. Can't. Her body's burning up inside with anguish. > > She says she'd be a WIMP to put up with what he's doing. > > > And that if she accepts IT as an illusion, a dream, > > THEN she'd be wimping out. > > > But I say that she's a wimp for giving " another " > > Control over her life. > > > I say that anyone who gives anything but one's > > SELF " control " (whatever that is) over one's life > > Is a wimp. > > > The minute one says > > " You " > > One becomes a " wimp " > > > There is only ONE > > One eye, > > One I, one Self, one Youniverse: I. > > > The " rest " is wimpdom. > > > And fuck " me " > > The minute I believe in > > " You " > > > So, she just wants to get fucked > > By a higher power because she's too > > Wimpy to BE ALL THE POWER. > > > And that goes for > > " YOU " too. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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