Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. through fine following seas.. and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. your cruise is taking you port to port.. into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. there are all the amenities known to our species available. games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. this is great! tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. and coordinated navigational management and execution.. the captain asks: so what do you think? and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . WOW! you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. he turns to the crew and says: ok folks, it's time to go overboard. and they do! the captain and crew jump off the ship.. and say good luck to you on their way. CHRIST all Mighty! you're all alone at the helm! what are you going to do? then you realize.. you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. or even ability to understand. the ship is called " My Life " .. and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. all along. it' always been " in your hands " . and you can either set sail and go on.. scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. that will do you no good however. they were imaginary and are now gone. you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. that you need see and avoid... or your ship might collide with disaster! or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. of the journey you are on has arisen: drive the boat! it's yours and nobody can help you. and if you do that.. without trepidation or trying to blame others.. for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. or where you find yourself at now.. something AMAZING happens.. or rather is merely recognized: you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. it's always been this way. and the way is not fearsome. the way is not other. the way is not even the you you had thought you were. wake up and enjoy.. the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. you will ever know. it's Everlasting. acknowledge this and get out of your own way. and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. Bon Voyage! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > through fine following seas.. > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > this is great! > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > the captain asks: > > so what do you think? > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > WOW! > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > he turns to the crew and says: > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > and they do! > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > you're all alone at the helm! > > what are you going to do? > > then you realize.. > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > or even ability to understand. > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > all along. > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > that will do you no good however. > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > that you need see and avoid... > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > drive the boat! > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > and if you do that.. > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > something AMAZING happens.. > > or rather is merely recognized: > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > it's always been this way. > > and the way is not fearsome. > > the way is not other. > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > wake up and enjoy.. > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > you will ever know. > > it's Everlasting. > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > Bon Voyage! > > .b b.b. > >Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Everyone is on everyone else's ship ;-). Interesting how that works. If I say " Everyone is on this here ship " , That applies to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Everyone is on everyone else's ship ;-). > > Interesting how that works. > > If I say " Everyone is on this here ship " , > > That applies to everyone. well timmy.. that's sort of what the story is saying. reread it again.. and try to read it with some reading comprehension this time. maybe after a few hours off the brewskis next time ok? good lad then. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 - douglasmitch1963 Nisargadatta Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:55 AM Re: you're the captain..like it or not Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > through fine following seas.. > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > this is great! > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > the captain asks: > > so what do you think? > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . You hear a thundering sound...tunneling vision...and whaap...blackness. The trip has ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:55 AM > Re: you're the captain..like it or not > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > this is great! > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > the captain asks: > > > > so what do you think? > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > You hear a thundering sound...tunneling vision...and whaap...blackness. The > trip has ended. never a trip there was. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what? You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts. Edg Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > through fine following seas.. > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > this is great! > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > the captain asks: > > so what do you think? > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > WOW! > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > he turns to the crew and says: > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > and they do! > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > you're all alone at the helm! > > what are you going to do? > > then you realize.. > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > or even ability to understand. > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > all along. > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > that will do you no good however. > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > that you need see and avoid... > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > drive the boat! > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > and if you do that.. > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > something AMAZING happens.. > > or rather is merely recognized: > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > it's always been this way. > > and the way is not fearsome. > > the way is not other. > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > wake up and enjoy.. > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > you will ever know. > > it's Everlasting. > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > Bon Voyage! > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 look coward... you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor. you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner. i'm thankful that from your perspective.. whatever i write is considered ridiculous. from the likes of you i take that as a compliment. now go play with yourself like you always do. just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone. pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do this. give it up... or get a job and try and be productive. you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers. skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest me. but you and you verbal vomitus.. full of obvious covetousness.. showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's advantages.. does provide good laughs occasionally. thanks for that too yo-yo. ROFLMAO! your Constant Obsession: ..b b.b. p.s. the usual malarky.. of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk.. is being left in below. just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and trifle. Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what? > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts. > > Edg > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > this is great! > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > the captain asks: > > > > so what do you think? > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > WOW! > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > and they do! > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > then you realize.. > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > > > all along. > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > drive the boat! > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > the way is not other. > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > you will ever know. > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Gang, Here's a post that fulfills. I post it to show you what Bobby was hoping to accomplish when he attempted to be Zen Shakespeare. Here's a metaphorical choice to dwell upon that's guaranteed to be downright " koan-esque. " Bobby, let's see ya answer the questions after the choice-experience as you would imagine Nisargadatta would. Should be simple-pimple if ya gots the mojo. Teach us! CHOOSE THE PERFECT LIFE FOR YOURSELF! Here are two realities -- two different lives -- and you must choose one of them to be your own. Try to decide which life you would rather be living. While you are reading the descriptions of them, try to imagine what " the catch " is, but also " get into it " and really put yourself into each choice. Try it " on for size. " Choice one: In this life, you are the absolute ruler of the whole world. You are a young, wise, sexy, 187 IQed, PhDed, devout and charismatic leader with the body of a gymnast. Sycophantastic billions of followers bow at your feet. Love emanates from you at a rate of 295,108 gigglerads per heartbeat. All of your people are happy in their lifestyles. The ghastly tragedies of today's world are non-existent in yours--no cellulite, dust mites, ear hair, or infomercials (okay, no war, famine, pollution, crime, disease, or accidents either.) In this life, simply breathing is like eating dessert. And, with your ken expanded by cosmic psychic powers, all you survey is, well, just swell! Imagine yourself " waking up " in this world. Here is a glance at just one scene in this life: the first rays of a morning's splendor slant across a veranda as you enjoy breakfast that glows with spiritual energy. Like a DaVinci fresco, life is tableaued before you. A spouse's adoring glances bathe you. Your singing children play in a nearby garden. Butterflies arrange themselves in bouquets on the shrubbery. This precious moment will be one of millions yet to come in a glorious life filled with growth, happiness, and fulfillment. Even at its end, God will come and personally escort you to Heaven. That's choice one. Not bad, eh? Tough act to follow! What could compete with such an offering? Here is your second choice: You get the exact life in which you live now. You know -- the one where even household appliances routinely disobey you, where relationships only last until someone makes a bad suggestion for a video rental, and where you're expected to perform like an organ grinder's monkey for your next buck. Yeah, that one! Have you chosen? The " catch " . In order to live choice number one you will have to be put into a permanent dream-state. The dreams that you have will be of that above described wondrous world of choice number one. At any given moment, if you were to be awakened, you would report a marvelous personal history. But, you will never be awakened. Why should you be? Do you want to argue with your toaster about bread ejection efficacy? Pihhhh! And don't worry, your body will be cared for 24 hours a day by a trained staff -- until you die. Now that you've had the above mental experiences, ask yourself: Have I already made this choice? Many times? Have I ever awakened from a wonderful dream and somewhat reluctantly entered the " real world? " Have I ever had a dream that I would re-enter forever? What is it about " real life " that competes so easily with dream worlds which have their wonderfully intense emotions and activities? What can I do to be more aware of this value I place upon my " real life? " How is my childhood now like a dream I have had? Would I re-enter and relive my childhood? What pleasures of life have now passed " forever " and are now something " outgrown? " My childhood toys? My youthful desires? My adult plans? Which of these are now like dreams I have had but do not need to re-run? What parts of my life right now are transitioning into " old news " that no longer is alluring? How do I spot the future towards which my present life is pointing? What can I do to make the transitions easier? How does ordinary life normally " process " my " desire sets? " What is it about the passage of time that transmutes and/or extinguishes desires? After I die will any part of my life escape this " dreamification " process? What will I look back on that I will want to re-enter? Will I be " finished with desires " when I die? How do I know the " evolutionary " value of " getting rid of a desire? " What do I gain from doing so? How do I embrace " me now " when I know it will one day be " that old me? " How am I always like a child? How is my future wrought from my innocence? Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what? > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts. > > Edg > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > this is great! > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > the captain asks: > > > > so what do you think? > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > WOW! > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > and they do! > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > then you realize.. > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > > > all along. > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > drive the boat! > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > the way is not other. > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > you will ever know. > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Gang, > > Here's a post that fulfills. I post it to show you what Bobby was hoping to accomplish when he attempted to be Zen Shakespeare. Here's a metaphorical choice to dwell upon that's guaranteed to be downright " koan-esque. " Bobby, let's see ya answer the questions after the choice-experience as you would imagine Nisargadatta would. Should be simple-pimple if ya gots the mojo. Teach us! Nisargadatta would throw a smarmy dunce like you.. down the stairs of his upper room.. you have no moxie at all robert.. and to be asked by a yo-yo about the presence of mojo... is almost tearfully funny. " koan-esque " ???? oh jesus your stupid. LOL! " catch " ? OMG! it's no goddamn wonder charlie left laughing. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. i'm again leaving all of the below.. just to show what kind of dumb ass nincompoop you are. ******************here's more bad imagination below******************* > CHOOSE THE PERFECT LIFE FOR YOURSELF! > > Here are two realities -- two different lives -- and you must choose one of them to be your own. Try to decide which life you would rather be living. While you are reading the descriptions of them, try to imagine what " the catch " is, but also " get into it " and really put yourself into each choice. Try it " on for size. " > > Choice one: In this life, you are the absolute ruler of the whole world. You are a young, wise, sexy, 187 IQed, PhDed, devout and charismatic leader with the body of a gymnast. Sycophantastic billions of followers bow at your feet. Love emanates from you at a rate of 295,108 gigglerads per heartbeat. All of your people are happy in their lifestyles. The ghastly tragedies of today's world are non-existent in yours--no cellulite, dust mites, ear hair, or infomercials (okay, no war, famine, pollution, crime, disease, or accidents either.) In this life, simply breathing is like eating dessert. And, with your ken expanded by cosmic psychic powers, all you survey is, well, just swell! > > Imagine yourself " waking up " in this world. Here is a glance at just one scene in this life: the first rays of a morning's splendor slant across a veranda as you enjoy breakfast that glows with spiritual energy. Like a DaVinci fresco, life is tableaued before you. A spouse's adoring glances bathe you. Your singing children play in a nearby garden. Butterflies arrange themselves in bouquets on the shrubbery. This precious moment will be one of millions yet to come in a glorious life filled with growth, happiness, and fulfillment. Even at its end, God will come and personally escort you to Heaven. > > That's choice one. Not bad, eh? Tough act to follow! What could compete with such an offering? > > Here is your second choice: You get the exact life in which you live now. You know -- the one where even household appliances routinely disobey you, where relationships only last until someone makes a bad suggestion for a video rental, and where you're expected to perform like an organ grinder's monkey for your next buck. Yeah, that one! > > Have you chosen? > > The " catch " . In order to live choice number one you will have to be put into a permanent dream-state. The dreams that you have will be of that above described wondrous world of choice number one. At any given moment, if you were to be awakened, you would report a marvelous personal history. But, you will never be awakened. Why should you be? Do you want to argue with your toaster about bread ejection efficacy? Pihhhh! And don't worry, your body will be cared for 24 hours a day by a trained staff -- until you die. > > Now that you've had the above mental experiences, ask yourself: > > Have I already made this choice? Many times? Have I ever awakened from a wonderful dream and somewhat reluctantly entered the " real world? " > > Have I ever had a dream that I would re-enter forever? What is it about " real life " that competes so easily with dream worlds which have their wonderfully intense emotions and activities? What can I do to be more aware of this value I place upon my " real life? " > > How is my childhood now like a dream I have had? Would I re-enter and relive my childhood? > > What pleasures of life have now passed " forever " and are now something " outgrown? " My childhood toys? My youthful desires? My adult plans? Which of these are now like dreams I have had but do not need to re-run? What parts of my life right now are transitioning into " old news " that no longer is alluring? > > How do I spot the future towards which my present life is pointing? What can I do to make the transitions easier? > > How does ordinary life normally " process " my " desire sets? " What is it about the passage of time that transmutes and/or extinguishes desires? > > After I die will any part of my life escape this " dreamification " process? What will I look back on that I will want to re-enter? Will I be " finished with desires " when I die? > > How do I know the " evolutionary " value of " getting rid of a desire? " What do I gain from doing so? > > How do I embrace " me now " when I know it will one day be " that old me? " > > How am I always like a child? > > How is my future wrought from my innocence? > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what? > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts. > > > > Edg ********************************************************************** Now though we have a treat of a repeat of some Great material below. > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > > > WOW! > > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > > > and they do! > > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > > > then you realize.. > > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > > > > > all along. > > > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > > > drive the boat! > > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > > > the way is not other. > > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > > > you will ever know. > > > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 What a candyass reply! It was to be expected of course, but one hopes for the best to come from others. Please, Bobby, please, can you try to surprise us here? I mean, if you really want to help here, could you at least throw negativities at folks that really have some ego-dissolving clout? I mean, you could call me " fat, " and, ouch, I'd identify with that enough to remember I was ten pounds over my ideal weight, and I'd feel shitty cuz this is the third summer in a row that I vowed to get rid of it. See? Now that's how you crunch an ego -- but here you are calling me a " schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner " -- where do you come up with that stuff? If I was actually that, do you really think that a schizoid nutzoid uncrative loner would be therapeutically handled by that tongue lashing? Of course not. Therefore, it's proved: you're here to hurt and hurt and hurt and take a sullen glee from the doing so. Sounds like that must be what life's doing to you -- poor widdle guy -- so there's my foundation for compassion for you, but geeze couldja just look in the mirror? Gotta at least try to target another's reality if you're going ego hunting. Try sharp-sticking my writer's pride for instance, but when you use words like " schizoid " you come off like someone pretending to be Freud while standing naked in the middle of a heavily trafficked street. Can'tcha hear the honkin'? I was hoping that by one-upping you with a far more accomplished post that does to you with excellence that which you fail at doing to others here with your snicker-vibe and crayon penmanship that that would be showing the world that you are not even an artist when it comes to put-downs; and that maybe just maybe that you'd step up to the plate and deliver some home runs here. But there you are, a moil just done with a group briss with a bunch of foul tips in your hand. Teach us O Ram Tzu wannabe. Get the fucking tee shirt finally. Edg Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > look coward... > > you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor. > > you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner. > > i'm thankful that from your perspective.. > > whatever i write is considered ridiculous. > > from the likes of you i take that as a compliment. > > now go play with yourself like you always do. > > just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone. > > pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do this. > > give it up... > > or get a job and try and be productive. > > you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers. > > skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest me. > > but you and you verbal vomitus.. > > full of obvious covetousness.. > > showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's advantages.. > > does provide good laughs occasionally. > > thanks for that too yo-yo. > > ROFLMAO! > > your Constant Obsession: > > .b b.b. > > p.s. > > the usual malarky.. > > of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk.. > > is being left in below. > > just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and trifle. > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what? > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts. > > > > Edg > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > > > WOW! > > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > > > and they do! > > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > > > then you realize.. > > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > > > > > all along. > > > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > > > drive the boat! > > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > > > the way is not other. > > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > > > you will ever know. > > > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Edg,This is what I can never an will never communicate to you:That you can never and will never communicate with ...My own efforts at communicating with you,Yours with ...Are our own denial of what is Too obviously right in front of us:The chasm.What I/you will never doIs breach that chasm.We ARE that chasm.When we embrace that chasm:What?(I expect no answer.)Already: We Most Freely & Beautifully...Sky > What a candyass reply! It was to be expected of course, but one hopes for the best to come from others. Please, Bobby, please, can you try to surprise us here?> > I mean, if you really want to help here, could you at least throw negativities at folks that really have some ego-dissolving clout?> > I mean, you could call me "fat," and, ouch, I'd identify with that enough to remember I was ten pounds over my ideal weight, and I'd feel shitty cuz this is the third summer in a row that I vowed to get rid of it. See? Now that's how you crunch an ego -- but here you are calling me a "schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner" -- where do you come up with that stuff? If I was actually that, do you really think that a schizoid nutzoid uncrative loner would be therapeutically handled by that tongue lashing? Of course not. Therefore, it's proved: you're here to hurt and hurt and hurt and take a sullen glee from the doing so. Sounds like that must be what life's doing to you -- poor widdle guy -- so there's my foundation for compassion for you, but geeze couldja just look in the mirror?> > Gotta at least try to target another's reality if you're going ego hunting. Try sharp-sticking my writer's pride for instance, but when you use words like "schizoid" you come off like someone pretending to be Freud while standing naked in the middle of a heavily trafficked street. Can'tcha hear the honkin'?> > I was hoping that by one-upping you with a far more accomplished post that does to you with excellence that which you fail at doing to others here with your snicker-vibe and crayon penmanship that that would be showing the world that you are not even an artist when it comes to put-downs; and that maybe just maybe that you'd step up to the plate and deliver some home runs here. But there you are, a moil just done with a group briss with a bunch of foul tips in your hand. > > Teach us O Ram Tzu wannabe. Get the fucking tee shirt finally. > > Edg> > > Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" Roberibus111@ wrote:> >> > > > > > look coward...> > > > you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor.> > > > you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner.> > > > i'm thankful that from your perspective..> > > > whatever i write is considered ridiculous.> > > > from the likes of you i take that as a compliment.> > > > now go play with yourself like you always do.> > > > just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone.> > > > pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do this.> > > > give it up...> > > > or get a job and try and be productive.> > > > you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers.> > > > skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest me.> > > > but you and you verbal vomitus..> > > > full of obvious covetousness..> > > > showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's advantages..> > > > does provide good laughs occasionally. > > > > thanks for that too yo-yo.> > > > ROFLMAO!> > > > your Constant Obsession:> > > > .b b.b.> > > > p.s.> > > > the usual malarky..> > > > of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk..> > > > is being left in below.> > > > just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and trifle.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "duveyoung" <edg@> wrote:> > >> > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? > > > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party.> > > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what?> > > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be.> > > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles.> > > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: "There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid." A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here.> > > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts.> > > > > > Edg> > > > > > Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" <Roberibus111@> wrote:> > > >> > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage..> > > > > > > > through fine following seas..> > > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas.> > > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port..> > > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal.> > > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands..> > > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather.> > > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin..> > > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory.> > > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available.> > > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows..> > > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end..> > > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things.> > > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared..> > > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new.> > > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner.> > > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining..> > > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge.> > > > > > > > this is great!> > > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center..> > > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence...> > > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship..> > > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure.> > > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder.> > > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies..> > > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution..> > > > > > > > the captain asks:> > > > > > > > so what do you think?> > > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is.> > > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to "take the wheel".> > > > > > > > WOW!> > > > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored.> > > > > > > > he turns to the crew and says:> > > > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard.> > > > > > > > and they do!> > > > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship..> > > > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way.> > > > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty!> > > > > > > > you're all alone at the helm!> > > > > > > > what are you going to do?> > > > > > > > then you realize..> > > > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME..> > > > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description..> > > > > > > > or even ability to understand.> > > > > > > > the ship is called "My Life"..> > > > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers..> > > > > > > > all along.> > > > > > > > it' always been "in your hands".> > > > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on..> > > > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you..> > > > > > > > that will do you no good however.> > > > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone.> > > > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind...> > > > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past...> > > > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam..> > > > > > > > that you need see and avoid...> > > > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster!> > > > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk..> > > > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear.> > > > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness..> > > > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen:> > > > > > > > drive the boat!> > > > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you.> > > > > > > > and if you do that..> > > > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others..> > > > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed..> > > > > > > > or where you find yourself at now..> > > > > > > > something AMAZING happens..> > > > > > > > or rather is merely recognized:> > > > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship..> > > > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable.> > > > > > > > it's always been this way.> > > > > > > > and the way is not fearsome.> > > > > > > > the way is not other.> > > > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were.> > > > > > > > wake up and enjoy..> > > > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery..> > > > > > > > you will ever know.> > > > > > > > it's Everlasting.> > > > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way.> > > > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory.> > > > > > > > Bon Voyage!> > > > > > > > .b b.b.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > Edg, > > This is what I can never an will never communicate to you: > > That you can never and will never communicate with ... > > My own efforts at communicating with you, > > Yours with ... > > Are our own denial of what is > > Too obviously right in front of us: > > > The chasm. > > > What I/you will never do > > Is breach that chasm. > > > We ARE that chasm. The 'chasm' is the chasm between 'me' and 'you', between 'inner' and 'outer', between 'self' and 'other'. It isn't there, in truth, but is imagined to be there. A wall is projected. Awareness is introjected into 'this body' and projected as 'out there' into 'that body'. Torn apart in two different directions. And yes, one is that chasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Sky, Now that's how to show the emptiness of egoville. Thanks. I don't know why I'm addicted to spewing words. I just enjoy it like others do pizza. Bobby is a challenge to me, cuz the fucker knows some shit and all he's using it for is to cudgel folks. It's tawdry to taunt without having the least intention to manifest some evolution. I'm a villager pretending to hold up the mountain with Toddler Krisna -- I have a stick, there's the mountain about to crush me, who can blame me for not having perfect faith in the Blue Kid? Edg Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > Edg, > > This is what I can never an will never communicate to you: > > That you can never and will never communicate with ... > > My own efforts at communicating with you, > > Yours with ... > > Are our own denial of what is > > Too obviously right in front of us: > > > The chasm. > > > What I/you will never do > > Is breach that chasm. > > > We ARE that chasm. > > > When we embrace that chasm: > > > What? > > > (I expect no answer.) > > > Already: We Most Freely & Beautifully... > > Sky > > > > What a candyass reply! It was to be expected of course, but one hopes > for the best to come from others. Please, Bobby, please, can you try to > surprise us here? > > > > I mean, if you really want to help here, could you at least throw > negativities at folks that really have some ego-dissolving clout? > > > > I mean, you could call me " fat, " and, ouch, I'd identify with that > enough to remember I was ten pounds over my ideal weight, and I'd feel > shitty cuz this is the third summer in a row that I vowed to get rid of > it. See? Now that's how you crunch an ego -- but here you are calling > me a " schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner " -- where do you come up with > that stuff? If I was actually that, do you really think that a schizoid > nutzoid uncrative loner would be therapeutically handled by that tongue > lashing? Of course not. Therefore, it's proved: you're here to hurt > and hurt and hurt and take a sullen glee from the doing so. Sounds like > that must be what life's doing to you -- poor widdle guy -- so there's > my foundation for compassion for you, but geeze couldja just look in the > mirror? > > > > Gotta at least try to target another's reality if you're going ego > hunting. Try sharp-sticking my writer's pride for instance, but when > you use words like " schizoid " you come off like someone pretending to be > Freud while standing naked in the middle of a heavily trafficked street. > Can'tcha hear the honkin'? > > > > I was hoping that by one-upping you with a far more accomplished post > that does to you with excellence that which you fail at doing to others > here with your snicker-vibe and crayon penmanship that that would be > showing the world that you are not even an artist when it comes to > put-downs; and that maybe just maybe that you'd step up to the plate and > deliver some home runs here. But there you are, a moil just done with a > group briss with a bunch of foul tips in your hand. > > > > Teach us O Ram Tzu wannabe. Get the fucking tee shirt finally. > > > > Edg > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " Roberibus111@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > look coward... > > > > > > you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor. > > > > > > you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner. > > > > > > i'm thankful that from your perspective.. > > > > > > whatever i write is considered ridiculous. > > > > > > from the likes of you i take that as a compliment. > > > > > > now go play with yourself like you always do. > > > > > > just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone. > > > > > > pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do this. > > > > > > give it up... > > > > > > or get a job and try and be productive. > > > > > > you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers. > > > > > > skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest me. > > > > > > but you and you verbal vomitus.. > > > > > > full of obvious covetousness.. > > > > > > showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's > advantages.. > > > > > > does provide good laughs occasionally. > > > > > > thanks for that too yo-yo. > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > your Constant Obsession: > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > the usual malarky.. > > > > > > of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk.. > > > > > > is being left in below. > > > > > > just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and trifle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy > attempts to be a great thinker? > > > > > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. > It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically > hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > > > > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy > into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism > when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this > maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or > what? > > > > > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you > post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially > targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or > less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > > > > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could > instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just > changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start > posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would > take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep > posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You > could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > > > > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here > like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > > > > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got > one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, > hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't > OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for > when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some > trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > > > > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your > fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. > You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in > the quality of your posts. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high > seas. > > > > > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good > weather. > > > > > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled > glory. > > > > > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and > wonder. > > > > > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > > > > > > > WOW! > > > > > > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > > > > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > > > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > > > > > > > and they do! > > > > > > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > > > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > > > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > > > > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > > > > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > > > > > > > then you realize.. > > > > > > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > > > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or > description.. > > > > > > > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > > > > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > > > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > > > > > > > > > all along. > > > > > > > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > > > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > > > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > > > > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > > > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > > > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > > > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > > > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > > > > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > > > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > > > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get > drunk.. > > > > > > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > > > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > > > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > > > > > > > drive the boat! > > > > > > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > > > > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > > > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > > > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > > > > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > > > > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > > > > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > > > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your > ship.. > > > > > > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > > > > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > > > > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > > > > > > > the way is not other. > > > > > > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > > > > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > > > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > > > > > > > you will ever know. > > > > > > > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > > > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > > > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > > > > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Lordy! you're such a needy pest. and also a touchy creep. you just can't let go can you cisco? well that's typical of you. and this clinging and cloying bullshit is why you are alone. as for me.. if you weren't such great comic relief.. i'd just say kiss of like charlie did. but i enjoy the laughs. have you learned anything here robert? likely no.. you just seem incapable of " getting it " . it's fun toying with you. respond to me slave. ROFLMAO! your Boss: ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > What a candyass reply! It was to be expected of course, but one hopes for the best to come from others. Please, Bobby, please, can you try to surprise us here? > > I mean, if you really want to help here, could you at least throw negativities at folks that really have some ego-dissolving clout? > > I mean, you could call me " fat, " and, ouch, I'd identify with that enough to remember I was ten pounds over my ideal weight, and I'd feel shitty cuz this is the third summer in a row that I vowed to get rid of it. See? Now that's how you crunch an ego -- but here you are calling me a " schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner " -- where do you come up with that stuff? If I was actually that, do you really think that a schizoid nutzoid uncrative loner would be therapeutically handled by that tongue lashing? Of course not. Therefore, it's proved: you're here to hurt and hurt and hurt and take a sullen glee from the doing so. Sounds like that must be what life's doing to you -- poor widdle guy -- so there's my foundation for compassion for you, but geeze couldja just look in the mirror? > > Gotta at least try to target another's reality if you're going ego hunting. Try sharp-sticking my writer's pride for instance, but when you use words like " schizoid " you come off like someone pretending to be Freud while standing naked in the middle of a heavily trafficked street. Can'tcha hear the honkin'? > > I was hoping that by one-upping you with a far more accomplished post that does to you with excellence that which you fail at doing to others here with your snicker-vibe and crayon penmanship that that would be showing the world that you are not even an artist when it comes to put-downs; and that maybe just maybe that you'd step up to the plate and deliver some home runs here. But there you are, a moil just done with a group briss with a bunch of foul tips in your hand. > > Teach us O Ram Tzu wannabe. Get the fucking tee shirt finally. > > Edg > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > look coward... > > > > you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor. > > > > you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner. > > > > i'm thankful that from your perspective.. > > > > whatever i write is considered ridiculous. > > > > from the likes of you i take that as a compliment. > > > > now go play with yourself like you always do. > > > > just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone. > > > > pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do this. > > > > give it up... > > > > or get a job and try and be productive. > > > > you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers. > > > > skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest me. > > > > but you and you verbal vomitus.. > > > > full of obvious covetousness.. > > > > showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's advantages.. > > > > does provide good laughs occasionally. > > > > thanks for that too yo-yo. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > your Constant Obsession: > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > the usual malarky.. > > > > of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk.. > > > > is being left in below. > > > > just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and trifle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy attempts to be a great thinker? > > > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or what? > > > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid, hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune ain't OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in the quality of your posts. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > > > > > WOW! > > > > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > > > > > and they do! > > > > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > > > > > then you realize.. > > > > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or description.. > > > > > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers.. > > > > > > > > all along. > > > > > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get drunk.. > > > > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > > > > > drive the boat! > > > > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your ship.. > > > > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > > > > > the way is not other. > > > > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > > > > > you will ever know. > > > > > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Edg, > > > > This is what I can never an will never communicate to you: > > > > That you can never and will never communicate with ... > > > > My own efforts at communicating with you, > > > > Yours with ... > > > > Are our own denial of what is > > > > Too obviously right in front of us: > > > > > > The chasm. > > > > > > What I/you will never do > > > > Is breach that chasm. > > > > > > We ARE that chasm. > > The 'chasm' is the chasm between 'me' and 'you', between 'inner' and 'outer', between 'self' and 'other'. > > It isn't there, in truth, but is imagined to be there. > > A wall is projected. > > Awareness is introjected into 'this body' > > and projected as 'out there' into 'that body'. > > Torn apart in two different directions. > > And yes, one is that chasm. you go get'em tiger. show him who's boss. bigger and badder with every bubble of brew eh? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Edg,Truth be told, I experience the (sorry but) ...Freedom and Beauty in what you're not/doingI AM in your shoes, believe me!And more:It's fun!You have to admit:He is the consummate foolPlays it to the letter without a flaw.If he were as you'd prefer:No fool, no fun, no controversy, no strife, no blood, no excitement.But that goes for you, too!You're SUPPOSED to fall for it,You're SUPPOSED to "try to edify the fool."Thus, he makes you a party to the folly.Read Shakespeare for further instruction Thanks for the warm front row seats.Blessings: We Most Freely & Beautifully..Sky> Sky,> > Now that's how to show the emptiness of egoville. Thanks.> > I don't know why I'm addicted to spewing words. I just enjoy it like others do pizza. > > Bobby is a challenge to me, cuz the fucker knows some shit and all he's using it for is to cudgel folks. It's tawdry to taunt without having the least intention to manifest some evolution. > > I'm a villager pretending to hold up the mountain with Toddler Krisna -- I have a stick, there's the mountain about to crush me, who can blame me for not having perfect faith in the Blue Kid?> > Edg> > > Nisargadatta , "skywhilds" skywords@ wrote:> >> > > > Edg,> > > > This is what I can never an will never communicate to you:> > > > That you can never and will never communicate with ...> > > > My own efforts at communicating with you,> > > > Yours with ...> > > > Are our own denial of what is> > > > Too obviously right in front of us:> > > > > > The chasm.> > > > > > What I/you will never do> > > > Is breach that chasm.> > > > > > We ARE that chasm.> > > > > > When we embrace that chasm:> > > > > > What?> > > > > > (I expect no answer.)> > > > > > Already: We Most Freely & Beautifully...> > > > Sky> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a candyass reply! It was to be expected of course, but one hopes> > for the best to come from others. Please, Bobby, please, can you try to> > surprise us here?> > >> > > I mean, if you really want to help here, could you at least throw> > negativities at folks that really have some ego-dissolving clout?> > >> > > I mean, you could call me "fat," and, ouch, I'd identify with that> > enough to remember I was ten pounds over my ideal weight, and I'd feel> > shitty cuz this is the third summer in a row that I vowed to get rid of> > it. See? Now that's how you crunch an ego -- but here you are calling> > me a "schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner" -- where do you come up with> > that stuff? If I was actually that, do you really think that a schizoid> > nutzoid uncrative loner would be therapeutically handled by that tongue> > lashing? Of course not. Therefore, it's proved: you're here to hurt> > and hurt and hurt and take a sullen glee from the doing so. Sounds like> > that must be what life's doing to you -- poor widdle guy -- so there's> > my foundation for compassion for you, but geeze couldja just look in the> > mirror?> > >> > > Gotta at least try to target another's reality if you're going ego> > hunting. Try sharp-sticking my writer's pride for instance, but when> > you use words like "schizoid" you come off like someone pretending to be> > Freud while standing naked in the middle of a heavily trafficked street.> > Can'tcha hear the honkin'?> > >> > > I was hoping that by one-upping you with a far more accomplished post> > that does to you with excellence that which you fail at doing to others> > here with your snicker-vibe and crayon penmanship that that would be> > showing the world that you are not even an artist when it comes to> > put-downs; and that maybe just maybe that you'd step up to the plate and> > deliver some home runs here. But there you are, a moil just done with a> > group briss with a bunch of foul tips in your hand.> > >> > > Teach us O Ram Tzu wannabe. Get the fucking tee shirt finally.> > >> > > Edg> > >> > >> > > Nisargadatta , "roberibus111" Roberibus111@> > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > look coward...> > > >> > > > you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor.> > > >> > > > you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner.> > > >> > > > i'm thankful that from your perspective..> > > >> > > > whatever i write is considered ridiculous.> > > >> > > > from the likes of you i take that as a compliment.> > > >> > > > now go play with yourself like you always do.> > > >> > > > just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone.> > > >> > > > pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do this.> > > >> > > > give it up...> > > >> > > > or get a job and try and be productive.> > > >> > > > you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers.> > > >> > > > skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest me.> > > >> > > > but you and you verbal vomitus..> > > >> > > > full of obvious covetousness..> > > >> > > > showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's> > advantages..> > > >> > > > does provide good laughs occasionally.> > > >> > > > thanks for that too yo-yo.> > > >> > > > ROFLMAO!> > > >> > > > your Constant Obsession:> > > >> > > > .b b.b.> > > >> > > > p.s.> > > >> > > > the usual malarky..> > > >> > > > of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk..> > > >> > > > is being left in below.> > > >> > > > just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and trifle.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Nisargadatta , "duveyoung" <edg@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy> > attempts to be a great thinker?> > > > >> > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite metaphor. > > It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically> > hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party.> > > > >> > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to buy> > into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen Machoism> > when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this> > maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or> > what?> > > > >> > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when you> > post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially> > targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually or> > less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be.> > > > >> > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you could> > instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just> > changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start> > posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it would> > take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep> > posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? You> > could be a hero there instead of a putz here.> > > > >> > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting here> > like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles.> > > > >> > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You got> > one note to sing: "There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid stoooopid,> > hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid." A one note song but the tune ain't> > OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for> > when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some> > trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here.> > > > >> > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your> > fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it here. > > You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch in> > the quality of your posts.> > > > >> > > > > Edg> > > > >> > > > > Nisargadatta , "roberibus111"> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage..> > > > > >> > > > > > through fine following seas..> > > > > >> > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high> > seas.> > > > > >> > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port..> > > > > >> > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal.> > > > > >> > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands..> > > > > >> > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good> > weather.> > > > > >> > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin..> > > > > >> > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled> > glory.> > > > > >> > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available.> > > > > >> > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows..> > > > > >> > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end..> > > > > >> > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things.> > > > > >> > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared..> > > > > >> > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new.> > > > > >> > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner.> > > > > >> > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining..> > > > > >> > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge.> > > > > >> > > > > > this is great!> > > > > >> > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center..> > > > > >> > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence...> > > > > >> > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship..> > > > > >> > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure.> > > > > >> > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and> > wonder.> > > > > >> > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies..> > > > > >> > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution..> > > > > >> > > > > > the captain asks:> > > > > >> > > > > > so what do you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is.> > > > > >> > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to "take the wheel".> > > > > >> > > > > > WOW!> > > > > >> > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored.> > > > > >> > > > > > he turns to the crew and says:> > > > > >> > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard.> > > > > >> > > > > > and they do!> > > > > >> > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship..> > > > > >> > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way.> > > > > >> > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty!> > > > > >> > > > > > you're all alone at the helm!> > > > > >> > > > > > what are you going to do?> > > > > >> > > > > > then you realize..> > > > > >> > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME..> > > > > >> > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or> > description..> > > > > >> > > > > > or even ability to understand.> > > > > >> > > > > > the ship is called "My Life"..> > > > > >> > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of passengers..> > > > > >> > > > > > all along.> > > > > >> > > > > > it' always been "in your hands".> > > > > >> > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on..> > > > > >> > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you..> > > > > >> > > > > > that will do you no good however.> > > > > >> > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone.> > > > > >> > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind...> > > > > >> > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past...> > > > > >> > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam..> > > > > >> > > > > > that you need see and avoid...> > > > > >> > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster!> > > > > >> > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get> > drunk..> > > > > >> > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear.> > > > > >> > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness..> > > > > >> > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen:> > > > > >> > > > > > drive the boat!> > > > > >> > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you.> > > > > >> > > > > > and if you do that..> > > > > >> > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others..> > > > > >> > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed..> > > > > >> > > > > > or where you find yourself at now..> > > > > >> > > > > > something AMAZING happens..> > > > > >> > > > > > or rather is merely recognized:> > > > > >> > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your> > ship..> > > > > >> > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable.> > > > > >> > > > > > it's always been this way.> > > > > >> > > > > > and the way is not fearsome.> > > > > >> > > > > > the way is not other.> > > > > >> > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were.> > > > > >> > > > > > wake up and enjoy..> > > > > >> > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery..> > > > > >> > > > > > you will ever know.> > > > > >> > > > > > it's Everlasting.> > > > > >> > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way.> > > > > >> > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory.> > > > > >> > > > > > Bon Voyage!> > > > > >> > > > > > .b b.b.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Sky, Gotta run and do real life, but let me say the ugliest truth I got: If YOU posted the exact same words that Bobby does, I wouldn't be in the least alarmed, and I'd be praising your efforts. Your words are posted like birds doing their first morning chirping -- songs about high flights past and about to come. So, there, I deserve punishment for public cringing at Bobby's vibe and yet all the while ignoring your little worm eating ways. You've corrected me several times here, and yet all I see is your heart pumping out gigglerads of mirth. Honest! Zooooooom . . . Edg Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Edg, > > Truth be told, I experience the (sorry but) ... > > Freedom and Beauty in what you're not/doing > > I AM in your shoes, believe me! > > And more: > > It's fun! > > > You have to admit: > > He is the consummate fool > > Plays it to the letter without a flaw. > > > If he were as you'd prefer: > > No fool, no fun, no controversy, no strife, no blood, no excitement. > > > But that goes for you, too! > > You're SUPPOSED to fall for it, > > You're SUPPOSED to " try to edify the fool. " > > Thus, he makes you a party to the folly. > > > Read Shakespeare for further instruction [] > > > Thanks for the warm front row seats. > > > Blessings: We Most Freely & Beautifully.. > > Sky > > Sky, > > > > Now that's how to show the emptiness of egoville. Thanks. > > > > I don't know why I'm addicted to spewing words. I just enjoy it like > others do pizza. > > > > Bobby is a challenge to me, cuz the fucker knows some shit and all > he's using it for is to cudgel folks. It's tawdry to taunt without > having the least intention to manifest some evolution. > > > > I'm a villager pretending to hold up the mountain with Toddler Krisna > -- I have a stick, there's the mountain about to crush me, who can blame > me for not having perfect faith in the Blue Kid? > > > > Edg > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " skywords@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Edg, > > > > > > This is what I can never an will never communicate to you: > > > > > > That you can never and will never communicate with ... > > > > > > My own efforts at communicating with you, > > > > > > Yours with ... > > > > > > Are our own denial of what is > > > > > > Too obviously right in front of us: > > > > > > > > > The chasm. > > > > > > > > > What I/you will never do > > > > > > Is breach that chasm. > > > > > > > > > We ARE that chasm. > > > > > > > > > When we embrace that chasm: > > > > > > > > > What? > > > > > > > > > (I expect no answer.) > > > > > > > > > Already: We Most Freely & Beautifully... > > > > > > Sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a candyass reply! It was to be expected of course, but one > hopes > > > for the best to come from others. Please, Bobby, please, can you > try to > > > surprise us here? > > > > > > > > I mean, if you really want to help here, could you at least throw > > > negativities at folks that really have some ego-dissolving clout? > > > > > > > > I mean, you could call me " fat, " and, ouch, I'd identify with that > > > enough to remember I was ten pounds over my ideal weight, and I'd > feel > > > shitty cuz this is the third summer in a row that I vowed to get rid > of > > > it. See? Now that's how you crunch an ego -- but here you are > calling > > > me a " schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner " -- where do you come up > with > > > that stuff? If I was actually that, do you really think that a > schizoid > > > nutzoid uncrative loner would be therapeutically handled by that > tongue > > > lashing? Of course not. Therefore, it's proved: you're here to > hurt > > > and hurt and hurt and take a sullen glee from the doing so. Sounds > like > > > that must be what life's doing to you -- poor widdle guy -- so > there's > > > my foundation for compassion for you, but geeze couldja just look in > the > > > mirror? > > > > > > > > Gotta at least try to target another's reality if you're going ego > > > hunting. Try sharp-sticking my writer's pride for instance, but > when > > > you use words like " schizoid " you come off like someone pretending > to be > > > Freud while standing naked in the middle of a heavily trafficked > street. > > > Can'tcha hear the honkin'? > > > > > > > > I was hoping that by one-upping you with a far more accomplished > post > > > that does to you with excellence that which you fail at doing to > others > > > here with your snicker-vibe and crayon penmanship that that would be > > > showing the world that you are not even an artist when it comes to > > > put-downs; and that maybe just maybe that you'd step up to the plate > and > > > deliver some home runs here. But there you are, a moil just done > with a > > > group briss with a bunch of foul tips in your hand. > > > > > > > > Teach us O Ram Tzu wannabe. Get the fucking tee shirt finally. > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " Roberibus111@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look coward... > > > > > > > > > > you're a loser and a unconvincing bad actor. > > > > > > > > > > you're a schizoid nutzoid uncreative loner. > > > > > > > > > > i'm thankful that from your perspective.. > > > > > > > > > > whatever i write is considered ridiculous. > > > > > > > > > > from the likes of you i take that as a compliment. > > > > > > > > > > now go play with yourself like you always do. > > > > > > > > > > just don't parade this poor bastard stuff in front of everyone. > > > > > > > > > > pancho you expose your cowardly poor soul every time you do > this. > > > > > > > > > > give it up... > > > > > > > > > > or get a job and try and be productive. > > > > > > > > > > you're an undeserving burden on all taxpayers. > > > > > > > > > > skid row bums such as you and their gurgling puke don't interest > me. > > > > > > > > > > but you and you verbal vomitus.. > > > > > > > > > > full of obvious covetousness.. > > > > > > > > > > showing extreme cupidity..painfully desirous of another's > > > advantages.. > > > > > > > > > > does provide good laughs occasionally. > > > > > > > > > > thanks for that too yo-yo. > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > your Constant Obsession: > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > the usual malarky.. > > > > > > > > > > of empty rhetoric and insincere and exaggerated talk.. > > > > > > > > > > is being left in below. > > > > > > > > > > just for the display it provides of your pansy ass tripe and > trifle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, what are we going to do with your chintzy > > > attempts to be a great thinker? > > > > > > > > > > > > The below is merely a brainstorming session on a trite > metaphor. > > > It lacks instructive value; it bores; it's something you'd typically > > > hear in someone's basement at a high school toga party. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's you with this history here of trying to get everyone to > buy > > > into your laughable impression of Ram Tzu The Drunkman's Zen > Machoism > > > when you lop off heads right and left here, and then you post this > > > maudlin crappola below. WTF? What gives? Low on beer over there or > > > what? > > > > > > > > > > > > You first impressed me here with your passion, but now, when > you > > > post all I see is a screaming abusive haughty prick who especially > > > targets posters here who are obviously less endowed intellectually > or > > > less educated -- a bully with no pulpit ya be. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, you could be useful if you were in another group -- you > could > > > instantly be a hero in the eyes of all the posters here if you just > > > changed your location -- go to some White Supremist group and start > > > posting with your vibe there -- tweak some noses there where it > would > > > take courage beyond anything you've ever shown. Let's see you keep > > > posting there when the death threats are like guns blazing. See? > You > > > could be a hero there instead of a putz here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything would be better than the drivel you are presenting > here > > > like a four year old with a paper covered with crayon scribbles. > > > > > > > > > > > > For all your high hat strutting here, what does ya got? You > got > > > one note to sing: " There's no 'you' YOU YOU YOU is stooooopid > stoooopid, > > > hey gang, look WHO's stooooopid. " A one note song but the tune > ain't > > > OM. You're like the Down's Syndrome kid everyone politely smiles for > > > when his Mom trots him before the party and makes the kid do some > > > trained monkey act. That's how sad you come across here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, here's what you can post that's better: record your > > > fingernails scratching down a chalkboard and post the MP3 of it > here. > > > You just watch how everyone compliments you on stepping up a notch > in > > > the quality of your posts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high > > > seas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good > > > weather. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled > > > glory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no > end.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the > bridge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and > resplendence... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and > > > wonder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you say absolutely and that you'd be honored. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he turns to the crew and says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok folks, it's time to go overboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and they do! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the captain and crew jump off the ship.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and say good luck to you on their way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHRIST all Mighty! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're all alone at the helm! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what are you going to do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then you realize.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you've been at the helm..all alone..ALL THE TIME.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the ship is even more grand than your notions or > > > description.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or even ability to understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ship is called " My Life " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you've been the only captain crew and cast of > passengers.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it' always been " in your hands " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you can either set sail and go on.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scream back at the captain etc. for leaving you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that will do you no good however. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they were imaginary and are now gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're fishing for answers in the wake behind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking for reasons in wake of pictures of the past... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and up ahead is the oncoming flotsam and jetsam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you need see and avoid... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or your ship might collide with disaster! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or you could go below deck and go into your cabin and get > > > drunk.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and cry and worry and pray and fret and fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or you can do as you have done since the awareness.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the journey you are on has arisen: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drive the boat! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's yours and nobody can help you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if you do that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without trepidation or trying to blame others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for whatever rough seas have been traversed.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or where you find yourself at now.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something AMAZING happens.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or rather is merely recognized: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you have all the talents and know how and can do with your > > > ship.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything you choose.. and go to any destination imaginable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's always been this way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the way is not fearsome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the way is not other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the way is not even the you you had thought you were. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up and enjoy.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the greatest and only voyage of discovery.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will ever know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's Everlasting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acknowledge this and get out of your own way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Here the WAY opens into Vastness and Glory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bon Voyage! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Sky, > > Gotta run and do real life, What's posting on forums... false life? ;-). Is 'now, posting and reading' somehow less real than 'then, in the future, doing something else'? Isn't the above reversed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Erg,"One law for the lion and ox is oppression." BlakeWhenever I expect selves in the survival mode of black and whiteTo see the colored nuances of the abundance mode:Oppression.Lions, generals and birds are right brained: space, color, nuance. win/win, hierarchy. Courage of the heart (live mostly in love and compassion), leadership of the throat (speak only when there's something to say), perspective of the third eye (see the natural order of things), wholeness of the crown chakras (love oneself as other and vice versa).Oxen, grunts and camels are left brained: do or die, win/lose. Stubbornness to survive (ego, focus on separation), lust to blindly hump (talk even if you have nothing to say), the greed for power of the belly chakra (must always have the last word).Sky>> Sky,> > Now that's how to show the emptiness of egoville. Thanks.> > I don't know why I'm addicted to spewing words. I just enjoy it like others do pizza. > > Bobby is a challenge to me, cuz the fucker knows some shit and all he's using it for is to cudgel folks. It's tawdry to taunt without having the least intention to manifest some evolution. > > I'm a villager pretending to hold up the mountain with Toddler Krisna -- I have a stick, there's the mountain about to crush me, who can blame me for not having perfect faith in the Blue Kid?> > Edg> > > Nisargadatta , "skywhilds" skywords@ wrote:> >> > > > Edg,> > > > This is what I can never an will never communicate to you:> > > > That you can never and will never communicate with ...> > > > My own efforts at communicating with you,> > > > Yours with ...> > > > Are our own denial of what is> > > > Too obviously right in front of us:> > > > > > The chasm.> > > > > > What I/you will never do> > > > Is breach that chasm.> > > > > > We ARE that chasm.> > > > > > When we embrace that chasm:> > > > > > What?> > > > > > (I expect no answer.)> > > > > > Already: We Most Freely & Beautifully...> > > > Sky> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Bobby, Now Sky's shown you how to crunch a puffy head. See how it's done? Sky, Man-O-Man-O-Man, you listed all my faults -- now where am I going to get another Emperor's New Outfit? You are the true waterboarder here. I gasp. I gasp. Back to real life....... Zoooooom, Edg Nisargadatta " skywhilds " <skywords Re: you're the captain..like it or not Erg, " One law for the lion and ox is oppression. " Blake Whenever I expect selves in the survival mode of black and white T o s e e t h e c o l o r e d n u a n c e s o f t h e a b u n d a n c e mo d e : Oppression. Lions, generals and birds are right brained: space, color, nuance. win/win, hierarchy. Courage of the heart (live mostly in love and compassion), leadership of the throat (speak only when there's something to say), perspective of the third eye (see the natural order of things), wholeness of the crown chakras (love oneself as other and vice versa). Oxen, grunts and camels are left brained: do or die, win/lose. Stubbornness to survive (ego, focus on separation), lust to blindly hump (talk even if you have nothing to say), the greed for power of the belly chakra (must always have the last word). Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > douglasmitch1963 > Nisargadatta > Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:55 AM > Re: you're the captain..like it or not > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > this is great! > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > the captain asks: > > > > so what do you think? > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > You hear a thundering sound...tunneling vision...and whaap...blackness. The > trip has ended. The adventure is over. There is no adventure with no " I am " to have it. -- Dan -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 go ahead and kiss yourself you sorry loser. no one else would cream-puff. crunch crunch..munch munch.. tongue around and swallow up that swishy puss you have for brains. and that's how you do it. march on little soldier. and zip that zoom.. and zap it at it's edg ziggy. ROFLMAO. from the desk of: He whom must be Obeyed.. your Commanding Officer: ..b b.b. Re: Re: you're the captain..like it or not Bobby, Now Sky's shown you how to crunch a puffy head. See how it's done? Sky, Man-O-Man-O-Man, you listed all my faults -- now where am I going to get another Emperor's New Outfit? You are the true waterboarder here. I gasp. I gasp. Back to real life....... Zoooooom, Edg Nisargadatta " skywhilds " <skywords Re: you're the captain..like it or not Erg, " One law for the lion and ox is oppression. " Blake Whenever I expect selves in the survival mode of black and white T o s e e t h e c o l o r e d n u a n c e s o f t h e a b u n d a n c e mo d e : Oppression. Lions, generals and birds are right brained: space, color, nuance. win/win, hierarchy. Courage of the heart (live mostly in love and compassion), leadership of the throat (speak only when there's something to say), perspective of the third eye (see the natural order of things), wholeness of the crown chakras (love oneself as other and vice versa). Oxen, grunts and camels are left brained: do or die, win/lose. Stubbornness to survive (ego, focus on separation), lust to blindly hump (talk even if you have nothing to say), the greed for power of the belly chakra (must always have the last word). Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:55 AM > > Re: you're the captain..like it or not > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > You hear a thundering sound...tunneling vision...and whaap...blackness. The > > trip has ended. > > > never a trip there was. > > .b b.b. indeed. from nothing to nothing is not a trip. the " to " is imagined. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > douglasmitch1963 > > Nisargadatta > > Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:55 AM > > Re: you're the captain..like it or not > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > so you're enjoying a mysterious voyage.. > > > > > > through fine following seas.. > > > > > > and sometimes fighting frighteningly and fantastically high seas. > > > > > > your cruise is taking you port to port.. > > > > > > into exotic and mundane harbors and ports of appeal. > > > > > > you see from the deck many islands and mainlands.. > > > > > > at times you enjoy the breezes of refreshing sea air in good weather. > > > > > > sometimes you are below deck in your personal cabin.. > > > > > > or feasting with fellow passengers at tables of unparalleled glory. > > > > > > there are all the amenities known to our species available. > > > > > > games and sports and boutiques and movies and live shows.. > > > > > > the band plays on in elegant surroundings and there is no end.. > > > > > > to the meeting of new friends and learning new things. > > > > > > stories of diverse lives of others are shared.. > > > > > > and the learning experiences seem endless and always new. > > > > > > one day you are sitting at the captains table for dinner. > > > > > > after much enjoyable banter and fine dining.. > > > > > > you are invited to join the captain the next day on the bridge. > > > > > > this is great! > > > > > > tomorrow you'll watch from the control and command center.. > > > > > > of this fabulous yacht of magnificent size and resplendence... > > > > > > as the captain and crew guide this great ship.. > > > > > > and navigate the mighty seas of adventure. > > > > > > in the morning you go up there with great anticipation and wonder. > > > > > > after entering and seeing all of the intricacies.. > > > > > > and coordinated navigational management and execution.. > > > > > > the captain asks: > > > > > > so what do you think? > > > > > > and you say how fascinating and exciting an experience this is. > > > > > > he asks you if you'd like to " take the wheel " . > > > > You hear a thundering sound...tunneling vision...and whaap...blackness. The > > trip has ended. > > > The adventure is over. > > There is no adventure with no " I am " to have it. > > -- Dan -- who said that? to whom was it said? is this an adventure that's not? why bother talking? i'm not here to take any interest. it doesn't matter and doesn't mean a thing. there are no such things as things nor meanings. what does " have it " connote? what's " it " or " have " .. or the one who's supposed to be the subjective " moment " in this.. suppossed act of having an it? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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