Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. -- From " I Am That " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > -- From " I Am That " > Tim, What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > Tim, > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > Werner > Indeed... the hunger within is the breath of fire. We seek the perfect words in which to clothe ourselves, when it is *I who am the word made flesh*. Hugs, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > -- From " I Am That " Wow! That fits right in. Excellent quote, thanks. -- D -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > Tim, > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > Werner Werner - So, then -- you are Nothing? -- D -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > Tim, > > > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > > > Werner > > > Werner - > > So, then -- you are Nothing? > Niz didn't use the term 'you are nothing' but he used the term 'you are the unborn' which means 'you are never born'. Do you see the difference between being nothing and never been born ? Surely you do, Dan. I myself prefer the term 'I am non-existent' Werner > > -- D -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > Wow! That fits right in. With what? ;-). > Excellent quote, thanks. My pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > > > > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > > > > > > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > > > > > > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > So, then -- you are Nothing? > > > > > > > > > Niz didn't use the term 'you are nothing' but he used the term 'you are the unborn' which means 'you are never born'. > > > > Do you see the difference between being nothing and never been born ? Surely you do, Dan. > > > > I myself prefer the term 'I am non-existent' > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > If you are non-existent, then I won't take you as an authority, regardless of how you present yourself. > > Okay with you? > > -- D -- Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and what you view or " encounter. " Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. It seems that human beings ingrain a sense of surviving, continuing and keep a sense of time as real, and space between observer and observed as real. Many, many communications reflect the intent to keep this distance. Many " nondual communicators " reflect this intent, often " unconsciously " as if unaware they are doing it, as if they are consciously believing " all is one. " But they still believe there is a separable they - they are this belief, they are this energy contraction. Still, it is indivisible energy, no doubt. There is beauty when the energy is not attempting to obscure what it is, by making itself as self and other. Rarely, there is a communication in which no distance apart is assumed. For this one, the communicated to, the communicator, and the communicating aren't divided or divisible. There is no intent to continue and survive. There is no demonstration, no sense of adventure assumed in the communicating. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > what you view or " encounter. " All that's encountered on the Net are words. Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. No human beings are encountered on the Net. Only words. Where's the human being? Point him/her out. Is there even a mental picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > what you view or " encounter. " > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > Only words. > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > Is there even a mental picture? > Everything is a mental picture. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > For this one, the communicated to, the communicator, and the > communicating aren't divided or divisible. There are two different ones, then? One is viewing from a distance someone or some experience that is other. With the other, the communicated to, the communicator, and the communicating aren't divided or divisible. One of the two is being separative. The other is not. Is that the message, Dan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > > > > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > > > > > > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > > > > > > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > So, then -- you are Nothing? > > > > > > > > > Niz didn't use the term 'you are nothing' but he used the term 'you are the unborn' which means 'you are never born'. > > > > Do you see the difference between being nothing and never been born ? Surely you do, Dan. > > > > I myself prefer the term 'I am non-existent' > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > If you are non-existent, then I won't take you as an authority, regardless of how you present yourself. > > Okay with you? > Yes Dan, I am fine with that. Hopefully, instead of taking or not taking me as an authority better try to find out what it could mean to be non-existent. Werner > -- D -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > > > > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > > > > > > > > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > So, then -- you are Nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Niz didn't use the term 'you are nothing' but he used the term 'you are the unborn' which means 'you are never born'. > > > > > > Do you see the difference between being nothing and never been born ? Surely you do, Dan. > > > > > > I myself prefer the term 'I am non-existent' > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > If you are non-existent, then I won't take you as an authority, regardless of how you present yourself. > > > > Okay with you? > > > > -- D -- > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. > " He is this and he is that... " Finally, Tim, you have found in Dan a new partner you could gossip about me Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > " He is this and he is that... " > > Finally, Tim, you have found in Dan a new partner you could gossip > about me > > Werner And finally, Werner, you found someone who is interested enough in ya to gossip about ya ;-). Let's throw a party :-D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > For this one, the communicated to, the communicator, and the communicating aren't divided or divisible. > > There is no intent to continue and survive. BTW, we didn't need to know that there's no intent to continue and survive for " this one " . Who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > " He is this and he is that... " > > > > Finally, Tim, you have found in Dan a new partner you could gossip > > about me > > > > Werner > > And finally, Werner, you found someone who is interested enough in ya to gossip about ya ;-). > > Let's throw a party :-D. Stay on the ground, Tim, and don't talk crap. Talking about oneself or expressing one's views is not gossiping. Just see and accept that you are tending to gossip. Don't be a coward and run away from it. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > toombaru " Love is all " " Mental picture is all " I thought we already covered this one, Toomie. Saying " All is X " is ridiculous, means nothing. Awareness (not the word awareness) is obviously not a mental picture. It can't be pictured... it is. Believing 'everything is unreal' is not nonduality, but more like a mental disorder ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Friday, August 07, 2009 12:57 AM Re: morning Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, > > I'd say. > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from > a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > what you view or " encounter. " All that's encountered on the Net are words. Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. No human beings are encountered on the Net. Only words. Where's the human being? Point him/her out. Is there even a mental picture? geo> On the net? avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 7/8/2009 06:38:16 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM Re: morning Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > what you view or " encounter. " > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > Only words. > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > Is there even a mental picture? > Everything is a mental picture. toombaru geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 7/8/2009 06:38:16 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Friday, August 07, 2009 6:41 AM Re: Re: morning Nisargadatta - Tim G. Nisargadatta Friday, August 07, 2009 12:57 AM Re: morning Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, > > I'd say. > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from > a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > what you view or " encounter. " All that's encountered on the Net are words. Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. No human beings are encountered on the Net. Only words. Where's the human being? Point him/her out. Is there even a mental picture? geo> On the net? You find them on the streets, markets, bus....but not in the net...hmmmmm avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 7/8/2009 06:38:16 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090526-0, 26/05/2009 Tested on: 7/8/2009 06:48:25 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > Only words. > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > toombaru > Oh, it's mental -- thass fer shur. Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > " Love is all " > > " Mental picture is all " > > I thought we already covered this one, Toomie. Saying " All is X " is ridiculous, means nothing. > > Awareness (not the word awareness) is obviously not a mental picture. It can't be pictured... it is. Believing 'everything is unreal' is not nonduality, but more like a mental disorder ;-). > Every " thing " IS a mental picture. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > Only words. > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > toombaru > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, August 07, 2009 12:01 PM Re: morning Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > Only words. > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > toombaru > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. toombaru In other words: your statement " everything is a mental picture " is just another mental picture. Then sorry....no significant value at all -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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