Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 12:01 PM > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > > > Only words. > > > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > toombaru > > > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. > > toombaru > > In other words: your statement " everything is a mental picture " is just > another mental picture. Then sorry....no significant value at all > -geo- > If you want something of value.....you came to the wrong place. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 07, 2009 12:01 PM > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > > > > > Only words. > > > > > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. > > > > toombaru > > > > In other words: your statement " everything is a mental picture " is just > > another mental picture. Then sorry....no significant value at all > > -geo- > If you want something of value.....you came to the wrong place. > > > > > toombaru > And you there is no such thing as right place or wrong place...is there? Let alone something or another that holds its value for time immemorial. Well ok, diamonds... pearls... lol. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, August 07, 2009 12:01 PM > > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > toombaru2006 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > > > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > > > > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > > > > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > > > > > > > Only words. > > > > > > > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > > > > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > In other words: your statement " everything is a mental picture " is just > > > another mental picture. Then sorry....no significant value at all > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want something of value.....you came to the wrong place. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > And you there is no such thing as right place or wrong place...is there? Let alone something or another that holds its value for time immemorial. Well ok, diamonds... pearls... lol. > > > > ~A > I think I saw a place once......in a dream. ;-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, August 07, 2009 2:31 PM Re: morning Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 12:01 PM > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > > > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > > > Only words. > > > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > toombaru > > > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. > > toombaru > > In other words: your statement " everything is a mental picture " is just > another mental picture. Then sorry....no significant value at all > -geo- > If you want something of value.....you came to the wrong place. toombaru There was not there is not and there will never ever be another place to go to. Is it not weird? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 2:31 PM > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 07, 2009 12:01 PM > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, August 07, 2009 1:11 AM > > > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's > > > > > > level, I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > > > > > > > > > > > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > > > > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > > > > what you view or " encounter. " > > > > > > > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > > > > > > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > > > > > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > > > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > > > > > > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > > > > > > > Only words. > > > > > > > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > > > > > > > Is there even a mental picture? > > > > > > > > > > Everything is a mental picture. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > geo> and the mind is what? Another picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it has a label....it is a mental picture. > > > > toombaru > > > > In other words: your statement " everything is a mental picture " is just > > another mental picture. Then sorry....no significant value at all > > -geo- > > > > If you want something of value.....you came to the wrong place. > > toombaru > > There was not there is not and there will never ever be another place to go > to. Is it not weird? > -geo- > Weird doesn't quite cover it. How about............We eeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrr......d...d....da? LOL toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, I'd say. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > what you view or " encounter. " > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > Only words. > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > Is there even a mental picture? There aren't any words. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > For this one, the communicated to, the communicator, and the > > communicating aren't divided or divisible. > > There are two different ones, then? > > One is viewing from a distance someone or some experience that is other. > > With the other, the communicated to, the communicator, and the communicating aren't divided or divisible. > > One of the two is being separative. > > The other is not. > > Is that the message, Dan? You are asking Dan if there's a message from him to you? LOL. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: Do things happen as you want them to happen, or do you want them to happen as they happen? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj: Both. I accept and am accepted. I am all and all is me. Being the world I am not afraid of the world. Being all, what am I to be afraid of? Water is not afraid of water, nor fire of fire. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I am not afraid because I am nothing that can experience fear, or can be in danger. I have no shape, nor name. It is attachment to a name and shape that breeds fear. I am not attached. I am nothing, and nothing is afraid of no thing. On the contrary, everything is afraid of the Nothing, for when a thing touches Nothing, it becomes nothing. It is like a bottomless well, whatever falls into it, disappears. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > > > > > What Niz wrote was the result of several years of prectice of observing the 'I am'. > > > > > > > > > > Picking the raisins out of his cake and enjoying them won't teach you how to bake that cake. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, you can decorate yourself with Niz's words but that way they won't become your flesh and bones. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner - > > > > > > > > So, then -- you are Nothing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Niz didn't use the term 'you are nothing' but he used the term 'you are the unborn' which means 'you are never born'. > > > > > > Do you see the difference between being nothing and never been born ? Surely you do, Dan. > > > > > > I myself prefer the term 'I am non-existent' > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > If you are non-existent, then I won't take you as an authority, regardless of how you present yourself. > > > > Okay with you? > > > > > Yes Dan, I am fine with that. > > Hopefully, instead of taking or not taking me as an authority better try to find out what it could mean to be non-existent. > > Werner > > > > -- D -- That's about the silliest thing I've heard all week, Werner. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > For this one, the communicated to, the communicator, and the communicating aren't divided or divisible. > > > > There is no intent to continue and survive. > > BTW, we didn't need to know that there's no intent to continue and survive for " this one " . > > Who cares? Take a break from writing on the computer, Tim. No one cares. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 6:41 AM > Re: Re: morning Nisargadatta > > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 07, 2009 12:57 AM > Re: morning Nisargadatta > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Heck, let's not even talk to him, if he's nonexistent ;-). > > > > > > He's something of a projecting device, anyhoo... 'bout on Bryn's level, > > > I'd say. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned there is the level in which you are viewing > from > > a distance someone or some experience that is other than you. > > > > Or, there are no levels, and there is no distance between you and > > what you view or " encounter. " > > All that's encountered on the Net are words. > > Yes, Werner is projected. He's a word, among words. > > > Apparently, it's very rare that a human being expresses awareness > > of no levels and no distance apart, no time involved. > > No human beings are encountered on the Net. > > Only words. > > Where's the human being? Point him/her out. > > Is there even a mental picture? > > geo> On the net? > You find them on the streets, markets, bus....but not in the net...hmmmmm Very true. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > For this one, the communicated to, the communicator, and the communicating aren't divided or divisible. > > > > > > There is no intent to continue and survive. > > > > BTW, we didn't need to know that there's no intent to continue and survive for " this one " . > > > > Who cares? > > Take a break from writing on the computer, Tim. > > No one cares. > > - D - Why the suggestion to take a break from writing on the computer, then? ;-). There seems to be enough care/concern for that suggestion to arise. If there was none, I assume nothing would be posted in response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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