Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 The " I " is self-contradictory. It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, merely an ever-changing series of thoughts arising in the present nonvolitionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > arising in the present > > nonvolitionally. > And now, Tim, What shall we do with that " I " ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > arising in the present > > nonvolitionally. .....nice thoughts... but they will change nothing to It for real ..... instead of thoughts and thoughts.... how about to enjoy life? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > ....nice thoughts... > > but they will change nothing to It for real No, thoughts won't change anything. They merely constitute repetition. > .... > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > how about to enjoy life? > > What a waste of life, to sit and think about how to enjoy life. Enjoy it by living it, here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > arising in the present > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > And now, Tim, > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > Werner There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. There's not even one of us here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > ....nice thoughts... > > > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > No, thoughts won't change anything. > > They merely constitute repetition. > > > .... > > > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > > > What a waste of life, to sit and think about how to enjoy life. > > Enjoy it by living it, here and now. > .....nice thoughts, again yes, live It, here and now when else!? what else!? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > > > > And now, Tim, > > > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > > > Werner > > There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. > > There's not even one of us here. but then.... " who " should " live " this your mentionned " life " ... " here and now " ?.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now, Tim, > > > > > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. > > > > There's not even one of us here. > > > but then.... " who " should " live " this your mentionned " life " ... " here and now " ?.... > > > Marc Define " who " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now, Tim, > > > > > > > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. > > > > > > There's not even one of us here. > > > > > > but then.... " who " should " live " this your mentionned " life " ... " here and now " ?.... > > > > > > Marc > > Define " who " . no no no....the question was for you.... no excuses now!.... we need to get out of this your mentionned " contradictions " ... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > But there is 'you' here and 'me' here chatting using their pcs. Yes, we're both 'here', aren't we? ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. > > > > > > > > There's not even one of us here. > > > > > > > > > but then.... " who " should " live " this your mentionned " life " ... " here and now " ?.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Define " who " . > > > no no no....the question was for you.... > > no excuses now!.... > > we need to get out of this your mentionned " contradictions " ... > > Marc Life is living life. It's living itself. No need for a " who " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > But there is 'you' here and 'me' here chatting using their pcs. > > Yes, we're both 'here', aren't we? ;-). " we " are " here " ....just being " here " ....since endless times.... there is a chance that It will continiously going on still.... isn't it?... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > But there is 'you' here and 'me' here chatting using their pcs. > > > > Yes, we're both 'here', aren't we? ;-). > > > " we " are " here " ....just being " here " ....since endless times.... > > there is a chance that It will continiously going on still.... > > isn't it?... > > > Marc Chances are, it's here now. And chances are, now will always be now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now, Tim, > > > > > > > > > > > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. > > > > > > > > > > There's not even one of us here. > > > > > > > > > > > > but then.... " who " should " live " this your mentionned " life " ... " here and now " ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Define " who " . > > > > > > no no no....the question was for you.... > > > > no excuses now!.... > > > > we need to get out of this your mentionned " contradictions " ... > > > > Marc > > Life is living life. > > It's living itself. > > No need for a " who " . > life belong to an imaginary entity....means " you " just like your dreams of next night belong to " you " ... .... there are no mysteries behind....no imaginary God or whatever fictions.... .... yes, live It.....just live It Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > But there is 'you' here and 'me' here chatting using their pcs. > > > > > > Yes, we're both 'here', aren't we? ;-). > > > > > > " we " are " here " ....just being " here " ....since endless times.... > > > > there is a chance that It will continiously going on still.... > > > > isn't it?... > > > > > > Marc > > Chances are, it's here now. > > And chances are, now will always be now. yes, such chance is seen in the famous " NOW " .... the magic Now... .... there are no words within this Now..... .... ..... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > But there is 'you' here and 'me' here chatting using their pcs. > > Yes, we're both 'here', aren't we? ;-). > Not quite, Tim, 'I am' here but I am not sure if you are there. It is logic mixed with experience that a pc program not yet is that perfect to trick me into believing I am chatting with a real human being. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM Re: The Contradictory " I " Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > arising in the present > > nonvolitionally. .....nice thoughts... but they will change nothing to It for real ..... instead of thoughts and thoughts.... how about to enjoy life? Marc Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:30 AM Re: The Contradictory " I " Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > contradictory. > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > arising in the present > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > And now, Tim, > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > Werner There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. There's not even one of us here. -tim- One is -for sure. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, contradictory. > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > arising in the present > > > > nonvolitionally. > > ....nice thoughts... > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > .... > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > Marc > > Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? > -geo- > depending in the definition of this your mentionned " enjoyment " ... some people enjoy life.....but then, during such enjoyment....there are no thoughts... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:30 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > > contradictory. > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > > > > And now, Tim, > > > > What shall we do with that " I " ? > > > > Werner > > There's no 'we' involved here, Werner. > > There's not even one of us here. > -tim- > > One is -for sure. > -geo- > there are few ones.... few little imaginary worlds.... meeting/melting for some moments of time... " here now " until each of such ones...go, again...his/her path... or...follow his/her thoughts...and world...and imaginary being... .... this mentionned " One " ....is the meeting space.... due to this mentionned " One " ....it's possible to meet... due to this mentionned " One " ....each go away again, after having met.... .... Such mentionned " One " ....is meeting continiously with everything and everybody.... .... Such mentionned " One " ...Is everything and everybody but such mentionned " One " ...isn't " geo " nor " marc " nor " werner " nor " tim " .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM Re: The Contradictory " I " Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > contradictory. > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > arising in the present > > > > nonvolitionally. > > ....nice thoughts... > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > .... > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > Marc > > Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? > -geo- > depending in the definition of this your mentionned " enjoyment " ... some people enjoy life.....but then, during such enjoyment....there are no thoughts... Marc Yes, but I mean the other way around. Can there be enjoyment and thoughts operating? Are all thought process responsible for " unenjoyment " ? Or only those that project the sense of inner entity? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM > > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > > contradictory. > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > ....nice thoughts... > > > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > > > .... > > > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? > > -geo- > > > > depending in the definition of this your mentionned " enjoyment " ... > > some people enjoy life.....but then, during such enjoyment....there are no > thoughts... > > Marc > > Yes, but I mean the other way around. Can there be enjoyment and thoughts > operating? Are all thought process responsible for " unenjoyment " ? Or only > those that project the sense of inner entity? > -geo- > wouldn't say that thought processes alone could be responsible for " unenjoyment " .... thought processes lead to somewhere...with little chance...to some space for enjoyment.... but then, if such space is too much based on thought processes....such space for enjoyment is of short duration ..... the more spaces of enjoyment are reached.... the less thoughts processes are necessary to reach it again.... .... etc Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:35 AM Re: The Contradictory " I " Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM > > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > > contradictory. > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > ....nice thoughts... > > > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > > > .... > > > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? > > -geo- > > > > depending in the definition of this your mentionned " enjoyment " ... > > some people enjoy life.....but then, during such enjoyment....there are no > thoughts... > > Marc > > Yes, but I mean the other way around. Can there be enjoyment and thoughts > operating? Are all thought process responsible for " unenjoyment " ? Or only > those that project the sense of inner entity? > -geo- > wouldn't say that thought processes alone could be responsible for " unenjoyment " .... thought processes lead to somewhere...with little chance...to some space for enjoyment.... but then, if such space is too much based on thought processes....such space for enjoyment is of short duration ..... the more spaces of enjoyment are reached.... the less thoughts processes are necessary to reach it again.... .... etc Marc I suppose you mean the only one space of enjyment there is... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:35 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM > > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM > > > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > > > contradictory. > > > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > ....nice thoughts... > > > > > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > > > > > .... > > > > > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > > > > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > depending in the definition of this your mentionned " enjoyment " ... > > > > some people enjoy life.....but then, during such enjoyment....there are no > > thoughts... > > > > Marc > > > > Yes, but I mean the other way around. Can there be enjoyment and thoughts > > operating? Are all thought process responsible for " unenjoyment " ? Or only > > those that project the sense of inner entity? > > -geo- > > > > wouldn't say that thought processes alone could be responsible for > " unenjoyment " .... > > thought processes lead to somewhere...with little chance...to some space for > enjoyment.... > > but then, if such space is too much based on thought processes....such space > for enjoyment is of short duration > > .... > > the more spaces of enjoyment are reached.... > the less thoughts processes are necessary to reach it again.... > > ... > > etc > > Marc > > I suppose you mean the only one space of enjyment there is... > -geo- > what is meant by " the only one space of enjoyment there is " ?... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:48 AM Re: The Contradictory " I " Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:35 AM > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM > > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:25 AM > > > Re: The Contradictory " I " > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The " I " is self-contradictory. > > > > > > > > It wants to be a fixed/static entity, that can change itself. > > > > > > > > " Being fixed/static " and " changing " are mutually exclusive, > > > > contradictory. > > > > > > > > In truth, the " I " was never there as an entity at all, > > > > > > > > merely an ever-changing series of thoughts > > > > > > > > arising in the present > > > > > > > > nonvolitionally. > > > > > > ....nice thoughts... > > > > > > but they will change nothing to It for real > > > > > > .... > > > > > > instead of thoughts and thoughts.... > > > > > > how about to enjoy life? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Is thinking happening in some different field that of enjoyment? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > depending in the definition of this your mentionned " enjoyment " ... > > > > some people enjoy life.....but then, during such enjoyment....there are > > no > > thoughts... > > > > Marc > > > > Yes, but I mean the other way around. Can there be enjoyment and > > thoughts > > operating? Are all thought process responsible for " unenjoyment " ? Or > > only > > those that project the sense of inner entity? > > -geo- > > > > wouldn't say that thought processes alone could be responsible for > " unenjoyment " .... > > thought processes lead to somewhere...with little chance...to some space > for > enjoyment.... > > but then, if such space is too much based on thought processes....such > space > for enjoyment is of short duration > > .... > > the more spaces of enjoyment are reached.... > the less thoughts processes are necessary to reach it again.... > > ... > > etc > > Marc > > I suppose you mean the only one space of enjyment there is... > -geo- > what is meant by " the only one space of enjoyment there is " ?... Marc The " place " where ME is not there. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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