Come forth all ye apologists on Toom's behalf (daily Nisargadatta)

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Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote:

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> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

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> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > > > > Questioner: A crude, unevolved man will not work without a reward. Is

it not right to offer him incentives?

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> > > > > Nisargadatta: He will create for himself incentives anyhow. He does

not know that to grow is in the nature of consciousness. He will progress from

motive to motive and will chase Gurus for the fulfilment of his desires. When by

the laws of his being he finds the way of return (nivritti) he abandons all

motives, for his interest in the world is over. He wants nothing -- neither from

others nor from himself. He dies to all and becomes the All. To want nothing and

do nothing -- that is true creation! To watch the universe emerging and

subsiding in one's heart is a wonder.

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> > > > > -- from " I Am That "

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> > > > This is grand.

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> > > > I hope Edg is still here.

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> > > > toombaru

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> > > Edg: Your personal attack shows that you do not understand Nisargadatta's

meaning nor have you bothered to really attempt to grok my point of view. I

completely agree with Nisargadatta's statement, but somehow, after all my

writing here, you miss this fact and think the above quote should shut me up.

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> > > Sucks to be you.

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> > Ahhhh Edg.

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> > I never attack persons.

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> > I don't believe in them.

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> > I do believe that the person is the belief structure.

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> > And I believe that some are more convoluted than others.

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> > If you have cut through the underbrush of the personal dream far enough to

come across Nisargadatta......my hats are off to you.

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> > But don't expect your views to be politely accepted by anyone here.

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> > All those years that you spent grooming your spiritual self have been

wasted.

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> > Stay here....step out into the arena......defend yourself.......

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> > This is where the real work begins.

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> > All that stuff that you think you believe won't impress anyone here.

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> > love

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> > toombaru

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> Edg: Do you actually believe your own shit? You were definitely singling me

out as some sort of asshole-true-believer-duffus, and your denial of it, shows

your intellectual and moral bankruptcy when it comes to fair debate. You've

asked me to stop commenting about your posts, but I was the first to ask that of

you and you kept right on trying to tar and feather me, so fuck your hypocrisy.

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> Okay, let's take a vote: who here thinks Toom is firing on all Advaitic

cylinders? Anyone care to be his apologist since he's incapable of meeting me

on common ground but must change the subject whenever he sees that he's unable

to conceptually counter my statements?

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I vote for toom.

 

 

 

toombaru