Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 One need the energy of God to enter a world... One enter the world with the energy of God... .... no choice .... God is the world We are the imaginary included ones ..... Until we know the world and God .... and with little chance... us too ..... Marc Ps: off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > ... > > no choice > > ... > > God is the world > > We are the imaginary included ones > > .... > > Until we know the world > > and God > > ... > > and with little chance... > > us too > > .... > > > Marc > > > Ps: off > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > ... > > > > no choice > > > > ... > > > > God is the world > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > .... > > > > Until we know the world > > > > and God > > > > ... > > > > and with little chance... > > > > us too > > > > .... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > toombaru > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... and then replace " It " with some fantastic and fabulous words of complete non-sense......i mean this your popular pseudo advaita sh... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers > > nothing. > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about > some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands > of years.... The issue here is not God, but " each-other " . Nyet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers > > > nothing. > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about > > some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands > of years.... > > The issue here is not God, but " each-other " . Nyet? " each-other " ......?..... who are this " each " ...for real?.... ..... do you believe they are nothing but this their imaginary existence included this their concepts and theories etc.....?.... ..... how are " you " ?.... what is happening in this your imaginary world and existence?... everything fine?... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about > > > some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands > of years.... > > > > The issue here is not God, but " each-other " . Nyet? > > > " each-other " ......?..... > > who are this " each " ...for real?.... Can 'other' answer? Or is that more of 'each-other'? > do you believe they are nothing but this their imaginary existence > included this their concepts and theories etc.....?.... Who " you " " Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo " hooooo.... Hey out therrrrreee...... > how are " you " ?.... > > what is happening in this your imaginary world and existence?... > > everything fine?... Who am I? I, the reader? Fuck " you " . Who am I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about > > > > some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands > of years.... > > > > > > The issue here is not God, but " each-other " . Nyet? > > > > > > " each-other " ......?..... > > > > who are this " each " ...for real?.... > > Can 'other' answer? > > Or is that more of 'each-other'? > > > do you believe they are nothing but this their imaginary existence > included this their concepts and theories etc.....?.... > > Who " you " > > " Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo " > > hooooo.... > > Hey out therrrrreee...... > > > how are " you " ?.... > > > > what is happening in this your imaginary world and existence?... > > > > everything fine?... > > Who am I? > > I, the reader? > > Fuck " you " . > > Who am I? > yes, find out who you are..... maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... get real ...... Who you are?... a bubbling bubble... what else... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > yes, find out who you are..... > > maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... > > get real ...... > > Who you are?... > > a bubbling bubble... > > what else... > > Like a bad joke, with a smile at the end. It never cheered anyone up :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > yes, find out who you are..... > > > > maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... > > > > get real ...... > > > > Who you are?... > > > > a bubbling bubble... > > > > what else... > > > > > > Like a bad joke, with a smile at the end. > > It never cheered anyone up :-p. > good....i knew it!....lol but then....have some serious occupation.... there is absolutly nothing in here! except some jokes hanging around like fools....you know...this kind of fools.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > ... > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > .... > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > and God > > > > > > ... > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > us too > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > Marc > How about this: Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. Which do you think it is? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > How about this: > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > toombaru > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... ..... the energy of God is always present..... like the apple on the tree.... it's about to use It.... that's all Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > .... > > the energy of God is always present..... > like the apple on the tree.... > > it's about to use It.... > > that's all > > > Marc > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. Let's see some of that stuff. Let's take a look at it. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > > > .... > > > > the energy of God is always present..... > > like the apple on the tree.... > > > > it's about to use It.... > > > > that's all > > > > > > Marc > > > > > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. > > Let's see some of that stuff. > > Let's take a look at it. > > > > toombaru > you only need to take a look at yourself.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > > > > > .... > > > > > > the energy of God is always present..... > > > like the apple on the tree.... > > > > > > it's about to use It.... > > > > > > that's all > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. > > > > Let's see some of that stuff. > > > > Let's take a look at it. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > you only need to take a look at yourself.... > > > Marc > .............if I could only find it. Mark........there is no self......and that makes all of its gods obsolete. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > > > > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > the energy of God is always present..... > > > > like the apple on the tree.... > > > > > > > > it's about to use It.... > > > > > > > > that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. > > > > > > Let's see some of that stuff. > > > > > > Let's take a look at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > you only need to take a look at yourself.... > > > > > > Marc > > ............if I could only find it. > > > Mark........there is no self......and that makes all of its gods obsolete. > > > > > toombaru > sounds ok this your conclusion.... but maybe this doesn't mean, that for some duration of time....it has been necessary to know the nature of such imaginary self....and also the nature of God...etc .... to know that there is no self....come out from a whole process of seeking/searching/contacts/experiences/understandings etc... there is no " shortcut " to the result of such process ..... means, you can't help out anybody on such process and also...you don't need to help anybody on such process....means, there is no obligation or natural law or mission or mysterious power or consciousness or awareness which give imaginary " you " the right/mission to help out anybody on such process Marc .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > > > > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > the energy of God is always present..... > > > > > like the apple on the tree.... > > > > > > > > > > it's about to use It.... > > > > > > > > > > that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. > > > > > > > > Let's see some of that stuff. > > > > > > > > Let's take a look at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > you only need to take a look at yourself.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............if I could only find it. > > > > > > Mark........there is no self......and that makes all of its gods obsolete. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > sounds ok this your conclusion.... > > but maybe this doesn't mean, that for some duration of time....it has been necessary to know the nature of such imaginary self....and also the nature of God...etc > > ... > > to know that there is no self....come out from a whole process of seeking/searching/contacts/experiences/understandings etc... > > there is no " shortcut " to the result of such process > > .... > > means, you can't help out anybody on such process > > and also...you don't need to help anybody on such process....means, there is no obligation or natural law or mission or mysterious power or consciousness or awareness which give imaginary " you " the right/mission to help out anybody on such process > > > Marc > > ... > > Marc > Why do you suppose that Ramana and Nisargadatta spoke of this until they died? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about > > > > > some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands > of years.... > > > > > > > > The issue here is not God, but " each-other " . Nyet? > > > > > > > > > " each-other " ......?..... > > > > > > who are this " each " ...for real?.... > > > > Can 'other' answer? > > > > Or is that more of 'each-other'? > > > > > do you believe they are nothing but this their imaginary existence > included this their concepts and theories etc.....?.... > > > > Who " you " > > > > " Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo " > > > > hooooo.... > > > > Hey out therrrrreee...... > > > > > how are " you " ?.... > > > > > > what is happening in this your imaginary world and existence?... > > > > > > everything fine?... > > > > Who am I? > > > > I, the reader? > > > > Fuck " you " . > > > > Who am I? > > > > > yes, find out who you are..... > > maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... > > get real ...... > > Who you are?... > > a bubbling bubble... > > what else... > > > > > Marc So, you are giving instructions to an imagined bubble to get a job? What??? - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > yes, find out who you are..... > > > > > > maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... > > > > > > get real ...... > > > > > > Who you are?... > > > > > > a bubbling bubble... > > > > > > what else... > > > > > > > > > > Like a bad joke, with a smile at the end. > > > > It never cheered anyone up :-p. > > > > good....i knew it!....lol > > > but then....have some serious occupation.... > > there is absolutly nothing in here! > > except some jokes hanging around like fools....you know...this kind of fools.... > > > > > Marc No fools, no wise ones either. Just perfect peace. But the attempt to live within a bubble distorts the perfect peace that is. With no attempt, just " is. " - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > the energy of God is always present..... > > > > > > like the apple on the tree.... > > > > > > > > > > > > it's about to use It.... > > > > > > > > > > > > that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. > > > > > > > > > > Let's see some of that stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Let's take a look at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you only need to take a look at yourself.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............if I could only find it. > > > > > > > > > Mark........there is no self......and that makes all of its gods obsolete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > sounds ok this your conclusion.... > > > > but maybe this doesn't mean, that for some duration of time....it has been necessary to know the nature of such imaginary self....and also the nature of God...etc > > > > ... > > > > to know that there is no self....come out from a whole process of seeking/searching/contacts/experiences/understandings etc... > > > > there is no " shortcut " to the result of such process > > > > .... > > > > means, you can't help out anybody on such process > > > > and also...you don't need to help anybody on such process....means, there is no obligation or natural law or mission or mysterious power or consciousness or awareness which give imaginary " you " the right/mission to help out anybody on such process > > > > > > Marc > > > > ... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Why do you suppose that Ramana and Nisargadatta spoke of this until they died? > > > > > toombaru > because they weren't forced to do anything special anymore....they were free from any worldly tasks......means, they got liberation from choicelessness.... they weren't anymore from/about/of this your appearent world..... they weren't anymore this their appearent bodies.... they felt great peace, happiness and joy.....and they knew exactly the reason why.... etc... etc... Means, they just had some occupation which allowed them to keep on being what they ARE....and ever have been for real. .... This isn't the case for many many pseudo enlightened and spiritual teachers, Gurus etc.....who are still running after this their final liberation....means to fullfill this their ONLY real lifetask they ever got......like everybody else. The only lifetask of life is liberation. This concern the imaginary self. Nobody else. After liberation....there is nobody anymore who need any liberation. ..... Wish a successful day to all this little spiritual egos in here.....who are just running after this their liberation.....with, or without being aware of it. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers > > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about > > > > > > some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands > of years.... > > > > > > > > > > The issue here is not God, but " each-other " . Nyet? > > > > > > > > > > > > " each-other " ......?..... > > > > > > > > who are this " each " ...for real?.... > > > > > > Can 'other' answer? > > > > > > Or is that more of 'each-other'? > > > > > > > do you believe they are nothing but this their imaginary existence > included this their concepts and theories etc.....?.... > > > > > > Who " you " > > > > > > " Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo " > > > > > > hooooo.... > > > > > > Hey out therrrrreee...... > > > > > > > how are " you " ?.... > > > > > > > > what is happening in this your imaginary world and existence?... > > > > > > > > everything fine?... > > > > > > Who am I? > > > > > > I, the reader? > > > > > > Fuck " you " . > > > > > > Who am I? > > > > > > > > > yes, find out who you are..... > > > > maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... > > > > get real ...... > > > > Who you are?... > > > > a bubbling bubble... > > > > what else... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > So, you are giving instructions to an imagined bubble to get a job? > > What??? > > - D - > no....i have some fun with this fiction called " Tim " ..... who presume that this his meaningless life ....just " happen like that " ....... who is one of this non-dual Freaks who presume to know Nothing......except that they are enlightened. .....absolutly fantastic and genious beings and fictions... ......spiritual clowns of the 21. Century....?... ..... don't worry...... i don't care at all ....in here. I presume that people in here are old enough to know about what they write and read....etc. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yes, find out who you are..... > > > > > > > > maybe then you will get some occupation which let you (choicelessly) bubble some more serious words in here....and which don't let you wast all this " your " time on internet....bubbling with other appearent pseudo non-dualists......in endless number of posts....etc... > > > > > > > > get real ...... > > > > > > > > Who you are?... > > > > > > > > a bubbling bubble... > > > > > > > > what else... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like a bad joke, with a smile at the end. > > > > > > It never cheered anyone up :-p. > > > > > > > good....i knew it!....lol > > > > > > but then....have some serious occupation.... > > > > there is absolutly nothing in here! > > > > except some jokes hanging around like fools....you know...this kind of fools.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > No fools, no wise ones either. > > Just perfect peace. > > But the attempt to live within a bubble distorts the perfect peace that is. > > With no attempt, just " is. " > > - D - > now we are the point!! some people only dream about this your " no attempt, just is " .... for the simple reason....that they get no choice for this " no attempt " .....for some reason....means, because of ignorance lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > no....i have some fun with this fiction called " Tim " ..... Shore... enjoy him ;-). Well... describe him. What does he look like, what does he do for a living, where does he live? What's the current content of the mental picture? ;-). > who presume that this his meaningless life ....just " happen like > that " ....... Neither meaningful, nor meaningless. " just what it is, now " . Pure being, free of division into meaning and meaningless, past and future, here and there, near and far, black and white, up and down, etc. Thus, any mental picture floating around is a silliness. Can Being be pictured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > no....i have some fun with this fiction called " Tim " ..... > > Shore... enjoy him ;-). > > Well... describe him. What does he look like, what does he do for a living, where does he live? > > What's the current content of the mental picture? ;-). > > > who presume that this his meaningless life ....just " happen like > > that " ....... > > Neither meaningful, nor meaningless. > > " just what it is, now " . > > Pure being, free of division into meaning and meaningless, past and future, here and there, near and far, black and white, up and down, etc. > > Thus, any mental picture floating around is a silliness. Can Being be pictured? > if you behave like a spiritual clown of 21. Century.....then it's allowed to laugh at it....no?.....lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > no....i have some fun with this fiction called " Tim " ..... > > > > Shore... enjoy him ;-). > > > > Well... describe him. What does he look like, what does he do for a living, where does he live? > > > > What's the current content of the mental picture? ;-). > > > > > who presume that this his meaningless life ....just " happen like > > > that " ....... > > > > Neither meaningful, nor meaningless. > > > > " just what it is, now " . > > > > Pure being, free of division into meaning and meaningless, past and future, here and there, near and far, black and white, up and down, etc. > > > > Thus, any mental picture floating around is a silliness. Can Being be pictured? > > > > > if you behave like a spiritual clown of 21. Century.....then it's > allowed to laugh at it....no?.....lol > > Marc I agree, Marc, you're funny ;-). Spiritual clown of 21. Century. Way words are hitting " Marc " and creating impressions, turning him into a clown of the century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One need the energy of God to enter a world... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One enter the world with the energy of God... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God is the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the imaginary included ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until we know the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and with little chance... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In answering the unknown using the God card........answers nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the lazy way out.....that doesn't get you out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think it's very lazy to ignore some facts about " God " ....about some " energy of God " ......people are talking about since thousands of years.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either God can do something about the suffering.....or he won't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which do you think it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why coming from " God " ...to " suffering " ....?....means, why the relation of/to both?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the energy of God is always present..... > > > > > > > like the apple on the tree.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's about to use It.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The energy of God " is an idea in your head. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's see some of that stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's take a look at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you only need to take a look at yourself.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............if I could only find it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark........there is no self......and that makes all of its gods obsolete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds ok this your conclusion.... > > > > > > but maybe this doesn't mean, that for some duration of time....it has been necessary to know the nature of such imaginary self....and also the nature of God...etc > > > > > > ... > > > > > > to know that there is no self....come out from a whole process of seeking/searching/contacts/experiences/understandings etc... > > > > > > there is no " shortcut " to the result of such process > > > > > > .... > > > > > > means, you can't help out anybody on such process > > > > > > and also...you don't need to help anybody on such process....means, there is no obligation or natural law or mission or mysterious power or consciousness or awareness which give imaginary " you " the right/mission to help out anybody on such process > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you suppose that Ramana and Nisargadatta spoke of this until they died? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > because they weren't forced to do anything special anymore....they were free from any worldly tasks......means, they got liberation from choicelessness.... > > they weren't anymore from/about/of this your appearent world..... > > they weren't anymore this their appearent bodies.... > > they felt great peace, happiness and joy.....and they knew exactly the reason why.... > > etc... > etc... > > Means, they just had some occupation which allowed them to keep on being what they ARE....and ever have been for real. > > ... > > This isn't the case for many many pseudo enlightened and spiritual teachers, Gurus etc.....who are still running after this their final liberation....means to fullfill this their ONLY real lifetask they ever got......like everybody else. > > The only lifetask of life is liberation. > > This concern the imaginary self. > > Nobody else. > > After liberation....there is nobody anymore who need any liberation. > > .... > > Wish a successful day to all this little spiritual egos in here.....who are just running after this their liberation.....with, or without being aware of it. > > > Marc Says Marc to himself, by addressing the " others " he projects. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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