Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 All these words 'about it' are in vain. As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) 'it'... When the opposite is the case. " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. The words arise 'within this'. 'This' does not arise within the words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) 'it'... > > When the opposite is the case. > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > The words arise 'within this'. > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > " This " and " it " are concepts that attempt to define the imaginary reality of an imaginary entity. For some they take the place of " God " and 'Ultimate " . And the effort to place them beyond the conceptual overlay is ludicrous. toombaru toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) 'it'... > > When the opposite is the case. > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > The words arise 'within this'. > > 'This' does not arise within the words. Yes. Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... Believing one is the truth ... All that is nonsense. :-) I know this, because I am the only truth there is. I am the meaning of any meaning. So, I derive no meaning from anything. I have no sense of being anything. :-) - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM Re: All in vain Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > 'it'... > > When the opposite is the case. > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > The words arise 'within this'. > > 'This' does not arise within the words. Yes. Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... Believing one is the truth ... All that is nonsense. :-) I know this, because I am the only truth there is. I am the meaning of any meaning. So, I derive no meaning from anything. I have no sense of being anything. :-) - D - Before you are/where I am. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) 'it'... > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > " This " and " it " are concepts that attempt to define the imaginary reality of an imaginary entity. > > For some they take the place of " God " and 'Ultimate " . > > And the effort to place them beyond the conceptual overlay is ludicrous. > > > > > toombaru > How can there by any overlay? Who is going to step outside of This and overlay something??? From whence is it going to be overlayed? You are continuing on and on with your concept of conceptuality, as if you could ever have one. This is just an attempt to have a possession. My favorite possession is my concept of conceptuality, because I get to address a conceptual overlay that I am making up, and then I get to pretend I'm beyond the conceptual overlay. That makes me very special. Not like all those others who are lost in the conceptual overlay. Not like all of them who believe there is a self. Sheesh!!!!! - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > Re: All in vain > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > 'it'... > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > Yes. > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > Believing one is the truth ... > > All that is nonsense. > > :-) > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > I have no sense of being anything. > > :-) > > - D - > > Before you are/where I am. > -geo- Before I am, antecedent to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > Re: All in vain > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > 'it'... > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > Yes. > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > Believing one is the truth ... > > All that is nonsense. > > :-) > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > I have no sense of being anything. > > :-) > > - D - > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) 'it'... > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > > > > > > " This " and " it " are concepts that attempt to define the imaginary reality of an imaginary entity. > > > > For some they take the place of " God " and 'Ultimate " . > > > > And the effort to place them beyond the conceptual overlay is ludicrous. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > How can there by any overlay? > > Who is going to step outside of This and overlay something??? > > > From whence is it going to be overlayed? > > > You are continuing on and on with your concept of conceptuality, as if you could ever have one. > > > This is just an attempt to have a possession. > > > My favorite possession is my concept of conceptuality, because I get to address a conceptual overlay that I am making up, and then I get to pretend I'm beyond the conceptual overlay. > > That makes me very special. > > > Not like all those others who are lost in the conceptual overlay. > > > Not like all of them who believe there is a self. > > > Sheesh!!!!! > > > - D - > And the denial of the imaginary reality accomplishes the same thing. Both merely reinforce the overlay itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > 'it'... > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > Yes. > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > :-) > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > :-) > > > > - D - > > > > > > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. > > > > > > toombaru The deceptiveness of words has never actually touched reality. What one believes " I have " to " give away " ... .... must be something to do with a " me " or a " you " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > 'it'... > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > Yes. > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > :-) > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > :-) > > > > - D - > > > > Before you are/where I am. > > -geo- > > Before I am, antecedent to time. > yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.........that's what I am. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > The deceptiveness of words has never actually touched reality. Especially when " reality " is merely another word. LOL toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > 'it'... > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > Yes. > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > :-) > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > :-) > > > > - D - > > > > > > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. > > > > > > toombaru No, Toom. It's just conventional language use. And no matter how often you repeatedly dispute the conventional use of language, it won't alter your sense of existing one iota. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) 'it'... > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This " and " it " are concepts that attempt to define the imaginary reality of an imaginary entity. > > > > > > For some they take the place of " God " and 'Ultimate " . > > > > > > And the effort to place them beyond the conceptual overlay is ludicrous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > How can there by any overlay? > > > > Who is going to step outside of This and overlay something??? > > > > > > From whence is it going to be overlayed? > > > > > > You are continuing on and on with your concept of conceptuality, as if you could ever have one. > > > > > > This is just an attempt to have a possession. > > > > > > My favorite possession is my concept of conceptuality, because I get to address a conceptual overlay that I am making up, and then I get to pretend I'm beyond the conceptual overlay. > > > > That makes me very special. > > > > > > Not like all those others who are lost in the conceptual overlay. > > > > > > Not like all of them who believe there is a self. > > > > > > Sheesh!!!!! > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > And the denial of the imaginary reality accomplishes the same thing. > > Both merely reinforce the overlay itself. > > > > toombaru There isn't any overlay. You can reiterate these themes that you're focused on over and over from now until kingdom come to no avail. " You " are the hold that these concepts have for " you. " You are " the focus that is being kept " regardless whether that focus is to repeat " there is no self. " The notion that you're combating a conceptual overlay is precious to you, apparently, is a focal point. Just like the notion that there is no self seems very precious to you. It's that preciousness that is the " me. " It's the focusing, it's that repeating of themes or memes. When I address you, there is no you for me to address. There is only this experience, this perception, which is the past, which is memory. There isn't anything happening here, now. There is nothing being reinforced by these words. These words only point to what isn't, which can't be reinforced. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > No, Toom. > > It's just conventional language use. > > And no matter how often you repeatedly dispute the conventional use of language, it won't alter your sense of existing one iota. > > - Dan - > I don't have a sense of existing. I AM a sense of existence. As are you. .....even though you keep denying it. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dan330033 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Before you are/where I am. > > > -geo- > > > > Before I am, antecedent to time. > > > > > > yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.........that's what I am. > > > > toombaru Before " I am " Toom. There is no " what I am. " Read more carefully. Don't just react. -- D -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > The deceptiveness of words has never actually touched reality. > > > > > > Especially when " reality " is merely another word. > > > > LOL > > > > toombaru a word is a word is a word. a horse is a horse, of course. what is, is really, really simple. way simpler than anything said on this list. way, way simpler. simpler than a word. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > Before you are/where I am. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > Before I am, antecedent to time. > > > > > > > > > > > yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.........that's what I am. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Before " I am " Toom. > > > There is no " what I am. " > > > Read more carefully. > > > Don't just react. > > > -- D -- > OK I'll try not to react. Trying............................. Trying............................... Hey.....wait a minute....... that's reacting isn't it? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dan330033 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I have " part is kind of a give away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > No, Toom. > > > > It's just conventional language use. > > > > And no matter how often you repeatedly dispute the conventional use of language, it won't alter your sense of existing one iota. > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > I don't have a sense of existing. > > I AM a sense of existence. > > As are you. > > ....even though you keep denying it. > > > > > toombaru I'm not denying it. Whatever a sense of existence is, it is me. I am saying that because I am it, I am not it. Well, a word is a word is a word, after all. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dan330033 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:24 PM > > > > > Re: All in vain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All these words 'about it' are in vain. > > > > > > > > > > > > As though words could define 'it', contain 'it', be 'about' (around) > > > > > > 'it'... > > > > > > > > > > > > When the opposite is the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > " It " defines the words, contains the words, is 'about' the words. > > > > > > > > > > > > The words arise 'within this'. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'This' does not arise within the words. > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > Searching for meaning, wanting to find truth ... > > > > > > > > > > Believing one is the truth ... > > > > > > > > > > All that is nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > I know this, because I am the only truth there is. > > > > > > > > > > I am the meaning of any meaning. > > > > > > > > > > So, I derive no meaning from anything. > > > > > > > > > > I have no sense of being anything. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > Before you are/where I am. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > Before I am, antecedent to time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.........that's what I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Before " I am " Toom. > > > > > > There is no " what I am. " > > > > > > Read more carefully. > > > > > > Don't just react. > > > > > > -- D -- > > > > > > OK > > > I'll try not to react. > > > Trying............................. > > > Trying............................... > > > Hey.....wait a minute....... > > that's reacting isn't it? > > > > > > toombaru Yes, and so was I when I said don't react. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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