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Yesterday I was sitting in the upstairs room looking out at the rain and a

question came to me. What is the difference, if any, and how to convey that

difference, between the two statements bellow.

 

--All there is is consciousness.

 

....and

 

--All there is is consciousness, and " that " which is beyond it.

 

One could say that " non-duality " have two different

meanings/connotations/whatever... depending on which of those two " statements "

are groked as fact.

I know the first impulse will be to try to defend one or other interpretation,

but that is not the proposal. The question is more like...how to differentiate

them?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " Geovani " <inandor wrote:

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> Yesterday I was sitting in the upstairs room looking out at the rain and a

question came to me. What is the difference, if any, and how to convey that

difference, between the two statements bellow.

>

> --All there is is consciousness.

>

> ...and

>

> --All there is is consciousness, and " that " which is beyond it.

>

> One could say that " non-duality " have two different

meanings/connotations/whatever... depending on which of those two " statements "

are groked as fact.

> I know the first impulse will be to try to defend one or other interpretation,

but that is not the proposal. The question is more like...how to differentiate

them?

> -geo-

>

 

 

the statement of " all there is is consciousness " .......often come from some

imaginary beings who are trapped into this their imaginary existence.....

 

such statement need an imaginary somebody who already seperate him/herself from

exactly this his/her conclusion about consciousness, expressed in such

statement.

 

It is a very popular statement because there are imaginary others who can be

easily found/percieved....who agree with it....for some comfortable

reasons......

 

Main reason is to protect a certain imaginary being...trapped in him/herself.

 

In fact...nobody could ever realy Live such statement....and consciousness.

 

It is therefore of complete worthlessness.....

Primary for the one who stay/go for it.

 

.....

 

This lead us the the second statement....

 

" All there is is consciousness, and " that " which is beyond it "

 

Because of the non-sense....flowing and going with the first one.....one try to

give a certain " dynamic " to the first statement.....in inventing a mysterious

force of " behond... " ....etc

 

....

 

 

Why not agreeing that the mentionned " consciousness " belong to whatever

imaginary being.....and that everything which Is such imaginary being....Is of

this consciousness.

 

That would be a nice non-dual concept....no?...

 

 

 

Marc

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