Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. There is no love in nature. The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love can be cultivated. If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very own head. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Toom, Awareness is love -- the only love possible. Attachment isn't love. Dwell on this. Edg Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > There is no love in nature. > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love can be > cultivated. > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very own head. > > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > There is no love in nature. > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love can be > cultivated. > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > own head. You are the world. The world is your own memory. This is so for everyone. Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 3:53 PM There Is No Love Out There It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. There is no love in nature. The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love can be cultivated. If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very own head. toombaru Love cultivated? That is not love. Love is what is when I am not there. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Yes, it is a result of absolute freedom...not from something..but in itself. Then the whole universe seems...love.... -geo- Toom, Awareness is love -- the only love possible. Attachment isn't love. Dwell on this. Edg Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > There is no love in nature. > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love > can be > cultivated. > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very own head. > > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 - fewtch Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM Re: There Is No Love Out There Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > There is no love in nature. > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love > can be > cultivated. > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > own head. You are the world. The world is your own memory. This is so for everyone. Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. -t- ....but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of practice. Not even some experience... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Love cultivated? That is not love. Love is what is when I am not > there. > -geo- Everyone's looking for love, but no one particularly wants to give it. This is why it isn't to be found 'out there'... it's a futile search, as is, in the end, all search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love > > can be > > cultivated. > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > own head. > > You are the world. > > The world is your own memory. > > This is so for everyone. > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > -t- > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > practice. Not even some experience... > -geo- Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. Neither seeking, nor avoiding. Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up his teaching in one word: Attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 - fewtch Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:37 PM Re: There Is No Love Out There Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where > > love > > can be > > cultivated. > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > own head. > > You are the world. > > The world is your own memory. > > This is so for everyone. > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > -t- > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > practice. Not even some experience... > -geo- Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. Neither seeking, nor avoiding. Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up his teaching in one word: Attention. -t- Yes. Seems strange that love could be the result of attention......but it is. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:45 PM Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There - fewtch Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:37 PM Re: There Is No Love Out There Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where > > love > > can be > > cultivated. > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > own head. > > You are the world. > > The world is your own memory. > > This is so for everyone. > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > -t- > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > practice. Not even some experience... > -geo- Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. Neither seeking, nor avoiding. Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up his teaching in one word: Attention. -t- Yes. Seems strange that love could be the result of attention......but it is. Well...not a " result " , no. It is not a result of anything...it just is. As someone said before: attention seems to do something to the barriers to freedom. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 <Nisargadatta > " geo " <inandor Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There - geo To: Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:45 PM Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There - fewtch To: Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:37 PM Re: There Is No Love Out There --- In Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > To: Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where > > love > > can be > > cultivated. > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > own head. > > You are the world. > > The world is your own memory. > > This is so for everyone. > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > -t- > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > practice. Not even some experience... > -geo- Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. Neither seeking, nor avoiding. Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up his teaching in one word: Attention. -t- Yes. Seems strange that love could be the result of attention......but it is. Well...not a " result " , no. It is not a result of anything...it just is. As someone said before: attention seems to do something to the barriers to freedom. -geo- Edg: Geo, I'm willing to bet you cannot define love without using the concept awareness. Putting the attention on any object is loving that object -- even if the attention seems to be directed by ego. If I love someone, it's a gimme that I'm attending that person's display of qualities. Attention is the sole component of love. If I put my attention on a pile of dog dew on my lawn, or if I look into my gal's eyes -- I am not loving either object more than the other. I am ferociously attached to my lady, and want to put my future attention on her, but whether I'm looking at the dog dew or her, I cannot be said to be giving her a bigger attention or a wider or a fuller or a better attention. Here, read these words aloud: " Hitler, " " my lover, " " Mother, " " serial killer. " See? Your mind just let those concepts whizz right on through without your attention squirming on the evil doers and trying to lessen awareness of the thoughts. Just so, your eyes do not edit out certain nasties in your field of vision. And on and on, awareness cannot be found to be judgmental -- how the ego uses awareness (its only ability) is 100% judgmental though. And what a difference in life when you know the difference between attention and attachment. Ya gotta get clarity about your definitions, bub. Otherwise it's gunna bite ya in the ass when you need your ass bite free the most. Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 - Edg Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 6:25 PM Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There <Nisargadatta > " geo " <inandor Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There - geo Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:45 PM Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There - fewtch Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 4:37 PM Re: There Is No Love Out There Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where > > love > > can be > > cultivated. > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > own head. > > You are the world. > > The world is your own memory. > > This is so for everyone. > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > -t- > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > practice. Not even some experience... > -geo- Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. Neither seeking, nor avoiding. Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up his teaching in one word: Attention. -t- Yes. Seems strange that love could be the result of attention......but it is. Well...not a " result " , no. It is not a result of anything...it just is. As someone said before: attention seems to do something to the barriers to freedom. -geo- Edg: Geo, I'm willing to bet you cannot define love without using the concept awareness. Putting the attention on any object is loving that object -- even if the attention seems to be directed by ego. ....... -Edg- I am going to use words in a loose fashion: Attention....there is awareness of the whole field of consciounsess, or the field of manifestation, or the world, that includes all, nothing is excluded. So, using your concept of putting attention on any object......being the object all there is............there you are. Or attention not to let a fragment of consicousness make noise. Or attention not to let a fragemnt become some observer. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Edg > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 6:25 PM > Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > <Nisargadatta > > " geo " <inandor > Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:45 PM > Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:37 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > fewtch > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where > > > love > > > can be > > > cultivated. > > > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > > own head. > > > > You are the world. > > > > The world is your own memory. > > > > This is so for everyone. > > > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > > -t- > > > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > > practice. Not even some experience... > > -geo- > > Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. > > Neither seeking, nor avoiding. > > Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up > his teaching in one word: Attention. > -t- > > Yes. Seems strange that love could be the result of attention......but it > is. > > Well...not a " result " , no. It is not a result of anything...it just is. As > someone said before: attention seems to do something to the barriers to > freedom. > -geo- > > Edg: Geo, I'm willing to bet you cannot define love without using the > concept awareness. Putting the attention on any object is loving that > object -- even if the attention seems to be directed by ego. ....... > -Edg- > > I am going to use words in a loose fashion: > Attention....there is awareness of the whole field of consciounsess, or the > field of manifestation, or the world, that includes all, nothing is > excluded. So, using your concept of putting attention on any > object......being the object all there is............there you are. Or > attention not to let a fragment of consicousness make noise. Or attention > not to let a fragemnt become some observer. > -geo- > Edg: Ugh, Geo, Geo, Geo, what am I going to do with you? Could you rewrite your response and fluff it up a bit? Say, 1,000 words at least, cuz, man, nothing you've said in a single post here would lead me to believe you and I are on the same page. Good news: the above poetry has some promising statements that could possibly be " rescued " by a more detailed fleshing out of their skeletons. Give a try, come on, Geo, you can do this. I'm outta here for hours at least, so I won't reply to whatever you post next until probably tomorrow morning, so, hey, take your time and think out what you're typing. Pretend you're writing up your concepts for a 10 year old kid, and then I'll pretend I'm that kid and we'll see if the kid can get Advaita 101 from your words. Otherwise: doom awaits. Edg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 - duveyoung Nisargadatta Friday, August 21, 2009 6:50 PM Re: There Is No Love Out There Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Edg > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 6:25 PM > Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > <Nisargadatta > > " geo " <inandor > Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:45 PM > Re: Re: There Is No Love Out There > > - > fewtch > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:37 PM > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > fewtch > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 21, 2009 4:02 PM > > Re: There Is No Love Out There > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where > > > love > > > can be > > > cultivated. > > > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very > > > own head. > > > > You are the world. > > > > The world is your own memory. > > > > This is so for everyone. > > > > Be present, be love, love without expectation of return. > > > > No other love is worthy of the name, in my view. > > -t- > > > > ...but again, it is not a matter of effort, of will, of cultivating, of > > practice. Not even some experience... > > -geo- > > Nor is it a matter of avoiding effort, will, cultivating or practice. > > Neither seeking, nor avoiding. > > Just paying attention. I think Ramana Maharshi said, when asked to sum up > his teaching in one word: Attention. > -t- > > Yes. Seems strange that love could be the result of attention......but it > is. > > Well...not a " result " , no. It is not a result of anything...it just is. As > someone said before: attention seems to do something to the barriers to > freedom. > -geo- > > Edg: Geo, I'm willing to bet you cannot define love without using the > concept awareness. Putting the attention on any object is loving that > object -- even if the attention seems to be directed by ego. ....... > -Edg- > > I am going to use words in a loose fashion: > Attention....there is awareness of the whole field of consciounsess, or > the > field of manifestation, or the world, that includes all, nothing is > excluded. So, using your concept of putting attention on any > object......being the object all there is............there you are. Or > attention not to let a fragment of consicousness make noise. Or attention > not to let a fragemnt become some observer. > -geo- > Edg: Ugh, Geo, Geo, Geo, what am I going to do with you? Could you rewrite your response and fluff it up a bit? Say, 1,000 words at least, cuz, man, nothing you've said in a single post here would lead me to believe you and I are on the same page. Good news: the above poetry has some promising statements that could possibly be " rescued " by a more detailed fleshing out of their skeletons. Give a try, come on, Geo, you can do this. I'm outta here for hours at least, so I won't reply to whatever you post next until probably tomorrow morning, so, hey, take your time and think out what you're typing. Pretend you're writing up your concepts for a 10 year old kid, and then I'll pretend I'm that kid and we'll see if the kid can get Advaita 101 from your words. Otherwise: doom awaits. Edg OK..here it is: I am not = love is -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > There is no love in nature. > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love can be > cultivated. > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very own head. > > > > > toombaru > The one who is searching and longing for love gets ugly. J.K. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg wrote: > > Toom, > > Awareness is love -- the only love possible. > > Attachment isn't love. > > Dwell on this. > > Edg > Awareness is this and awareness is that. That's all nonsense. Awareness is awareness and nothing more and nothing less. Werner > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer believed here that there is a loving God. > > > > The searcher for love has returned home.......with empty hands. > > > > There is no love in nature. > > > > The human mind is the only location in the manifested universe where love can be > > cultivated. > > > > If there is ever to be love in the world......it will have to grown > > within......and flow from.....the mind that emerged in your very own head. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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