Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Ok.......Maurice Friedman was getting what Nissy said filtered through a translator's personal world view. He was saying what he thought Nissy meant. Maurice then filtered what he thought the translator meant through his own personal world view and you get this information years later and think you have found the key that will ease the existential terror of imaginary isolation. Nissy never said " I Am That " . The title came from Maurice. That should tell you all you need to know. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Ok.......Maurice Friedman was getting what Nissy said filtered through a translator's personal world view. > > He was saying what he thought Nissy meant. This is a myth, promulgated by those who desire to diminish or negate Nis's teachings. Don't believe anything you encounter on the Net, *unless* it boosts one's sense of self, one's personal agenda. Then, believe it eagerly ;-). > Nissy never said " I Am That " . > > The title came from Maurice. > > That should tell you all you need to know. " Knowledge " here is based on 'clear seeing', and that's how I " judge " Nis's teachings. Does it agree with the 'understanding' present here, or not? If not, toss it. If so, enjoy it. Not a word of it will ever bring anyone to a clearer understanding -- which *is*, in the absence of a 'someone' to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok.......Maurice Friedman was getting what Nissy said filtered through a translator's personal world view. > > > > He was saying what he thought Nissy meant. > > This is a myth, promulgated by those who desire to diminish or negate Nis's teachings. > > Don't believe anything you encounter on the Net, *unless* it boosts one's sense of self, one's personal agenda. Then, believe it eagerly ;-). > > > Nissy never said " I Am That " . > > > > The title came from Maurice. > > > > That should tell you all you need to know. > > " Knowledge " here is based on 'clear seeing', and that's how I " judge " Nis's teachings. Does it agree with the 'understanding' present here, or not? > > If not, toss it. If so, enjoy it. > > Not a word of it will ever bring anyone to a clearer understanding -- which *is*, in the absence of a 'someone' to understand. > " Clear seeing " is an oxymoron. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok.......Maurice Friedman was getting what Nissy said filtered through a translator's personal world view. > > > > > > He was saying what he thought Nissy meant. > > > > This is a myth, promulgated by those who desire to diminish or negate Nis's teachings. > > > > Don't believe anything you encounter on the Net, *unless* it boosts one's sense of self, one's personal agenda. Then, believe it eagerly ;-). > > > > > Nissy never said " I Am That " . > > > > > > The title came from Maurice. > > > > > > That should tell you all you need to know. > > > > " Knowledge " here is based on 'clear seeing', and that's how I " judge " Nis's teachings. Does it agree with the 'understanding' present here, or not? > > > > If not, toss it. If so, enjoy it. > > > > Not a word of it will ever bring anyone to a clearer understanding -- which *is*, in the absence of a 'someone' to understand. > > > > > > " Clear seeing " is an oxymoron. > > > > > toombaru Go tell that to an eagle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok.......Maurice Friedman was getting what Nissy said filtered through a translator's personal world view. > > > > > > > > He was saying what he thought Nissy meant. > > > > > > This is a myth, promulgated by those who desire to diminish or negate Nis's teachings. > > > > > > Don't believe anything you encounter on the Net, *unless* it boosts one's sense of self, one's personal agenda. Then, believe it eagerly ;-). > > > > > > > Nissy never said " I Am That " . > > > > > > > > The title came from Maurice. > > > > > > > > That should tell you all you need to know. > > > > > > " Knowledge " here is based on 'clear seeing', and that's how I " judge " Nis's teachings. Does it agree with the 'understanding' present here, or not? > > > > > > If not, toss it. If so, enjoy it. > > > > > > Not a word of it will ever bring anyone to a clearer understanding -- which *is*, in the absence of a 'someone' to understand. > > > > > > > > > > > " Clear seeing " is an oxymoron. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Go tell that to an eagle. > Rule 1: If you think you understand something......you don't. Rule 2: If you think you see something clearly.....you don't. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Nissy never said "I Am That". The title came from Maurice. That should tell you all you need to know. -???- Who wrote that? Well it is quite the opposite. Nis was told that his book was going top be named "I am This". He answered that he would not let it. Unless the title should remain "I am That" he would not authorize the publication. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Rule 1: > > > If you think you understand something......you don't. > > > > Rule 2: > > > If you think you see something clearly.....you don't. Rule 1: If one is confused, there is confusion, not clarity. Rule 2: If one doesn't know what clarity is (totally obvious), there is confusion. Rule 3: If one thinks there are rules, there's *real* confusion running around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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