Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 advaitajnana , " Rose Lieberman " <lapis@c...> wrote: > > Hello, All. My name is Rose, I'm 57, I live in rural upstate New York. > > I have followed a long and ecclectic spiritual path. I now find myself interested in yoga and the yoga wisdom traditions, and especially those that embrace a nondual approach. I feel I've found my spiritual home. > > There's so much I have to learn, I scarcely know where to begin. > > Blessings, > > Rose > Namaste Rose, Welcome on the path..........OM Namah Sivaya...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 i also love to have coffee and read books... ..... wait.....i forgot the reason why i'm telling you this... are you there?.... ...........like me too?...... .... ok, fine...i know you are there!..... but ok, if not.....please ignore this my words... ..... why i need to share this my personal ignorance, i'm very proud of, with Nobody at all!!...??? .... i don't know at all!! .... you know... .... but maybe i'm enlightened....?.... wait....no no.....I AM...yes!!! .... LOL Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a thing that has to be forgiven arises. -J.Krishnamurti-if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches about himself. - D - But you do....and claim not to be here... -geo-No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do).- D - But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a thing that has to be forgiven arises. > -J.Krishnamurti- > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches about himself. > - D - > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > -geo- > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > - D - > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > -geo- > some give speeches... some give a shower of words... some don't like speeches... some don't like showers of words... but then... a coffee maybe?... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Friday, August 28, 2009 7:38 AM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > thing that has to be forgiven arises. > -J.Krishnamurti- > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not > there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't > there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone > who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks > about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > about himself. > - D - > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > -geo- > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't > listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. > What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, > it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > - D - > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not > the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > -geo- > some give speeches... some give a shower of words... some don't like speeches... some don't like showers of words... but then... a coffee maybe?... Marc That is not the point here...not just preferences. It is the contradiction, hypocrisy, and the fear of looking at ones own lies. We all had had insights - at least most of those who write here. But then we all are back into concepts, lost in thoughts - it is normal. We trust the past and believe it is still " going on " .We criticize others and are not aware of our own preconceptions - that is all the past taken as the present. It requires guts to see this in oneself, in me, here. And when there is the refusal to see it there is all kind of logical/mental contortions to validate ones own lies. Someone defined man as " the only animal that lies " . I'll take the coffee... :>) -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090816-0, 17/08/2009 Tested on: 28/8/2009 07:41:18 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 7:38 AM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. > > -J.Krishnamurti- > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not > > there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't > > there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone > > who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks > > about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > about himself. > > - D - > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > -geo- > > > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't > > listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. > > What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, > > it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > > - D - > > > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not > > the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > > -geo- > > > > some give speeches... > some give a shower of words... > some don't like speeches... > some don't like showers of words... > > but then... > > a coffee maybe?... > > Marc > > That is not the point here...not just preferences. It is the contradiction, > hypocrisy, and the fear of looking at ones own lies. We all had had > insights - at least most of those who write here. But then we all are back > into concepts, lost in thoughts - it is normal. We trust the past and > believe it is still " going on " .We criticize others and are not aware of our > own preconceptions - that is all the past taken as the present. It requires > guts to see this in oneself, in me, here. And when there is the refusal to > see it there is all kind of logical/mental contortions to validate ones own > lies. Someone defined man as " the only animal that lies " . > I'll take the coffee... :>) > -geo- > > > agree with this your analyse of things.... sometimes it appear that some members in here are reacting kind of allergic when it comes to some teachers & masters.....especially when the mentionned teachers & masters were very successful....and often were able to remain/stay calm and peaceful.....in/within/by whatever situations.... ....something that some members in here just can't.....means, they just can't remain/stay calm.....because maybe they never have been realy calm and peaceful....at heart. .... instead to just enjoy the nice and deep vibrations....some masters and teachers are constantly " giving " ......already by their simple presense and being.... they behave like little fools.....who realy have absolutly no idea in how to handle deep peace....and vibrations. .... then all kind of excuses are invented.......by this masters of inventions.... .... ok, let's have a coffee.....and enjoy peace Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Friday, August 28, 2009 9:43 AM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 7:38 AM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or > > of > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have > > no > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; > > for > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. > > -J.Krishnamurti- > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not > > there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't > > there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of > > someone > > who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks > > about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of > > himself. > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making > > speeches > > about himself. > > - D - > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > -geo- > > > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't > > listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. > > What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, > > it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > > - D - > > > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not > > the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > > -geo- > > > > some give speeches... > some give a shower of words... > some don't like speeches... > some don't like showers of words... > > but then... > > a coffee maybe?... > > Marc > > That is not the point here...not just preferences. It is the > contradiction, > hypocrisy, and the fear of looking at ones own lies. We all had had > insights - at least most of those who write here. But then we all are back > into concepts, lost in thoughts - it is normal. We trust the past and > believe it is still " going on " .We criticize others and are not aware of > our > own preconceptions - that is all the past taken as the present. It > requires > guts to see this in oneself, in me, here. And when there is the refusal to > see it there is all kind of logical/mental contortions to validate ones > own > lies. Someone defined man as " the only animal that lies " . > I'll take the coffee... :>) > -geo- > > > agree with this your analyse of things.... sometimes it appear that some members in here are reacting kind of allergic when it comes to some teachers & masters.....especially when the mentionned teachers & masters were very successful....and often were able to remain/stay calm and peaceful.....in/within/by whatever situations.... ....something that some members in here just can't.....means, they just can't remain/stay calm.....because maybe they never have been realy calm and peaceful....at heart. .... instead to just enjoy the nice and deep vibrations....some masters and teachers are constantly " giving " ......already by their simple presense and being.... they behave like little fools.....who realy have absolutly no idea in how to handle deep peace....and vibrations. .... then all kind of excuses are invented.......by this masters of inventions.... .... ok, let's have a coffee.....and enjoy peace Marc Ok for the coffee. I read books sometimes - in fact use to - and let the words sink in. Sometimes they seem to point in the direction of the non-personal, non-namable, but its all me, all here (there of course). To imagine another person as some kind of wessel of wisdom just doesnt work here.....its about loosing then gaining. -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090816-0, 17/08/2009 Tested on: 28/8/2009 09:48:51 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > Shhhhh.... The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. If you don't believe me, you can google it. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a thing that has to be forgiven arises. > -J.Krishnamurti- > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches about himself. > - D - > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > -geo- > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > - D - > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > -geo- Geo - Don't you get it yet? I am K! Geez. You made me come right out and say it. I've been trying to be subtle about it, but that seems to be lost on you. Everything I've said about K, I've been saying about myself. I hope this finally clears it all up for you. Thanks for your concern, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a thing that has to be forgiven arises. > > -J.Krishnamurti- > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches about himself. > > - D - > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > -geo- > > > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > > - D - > > > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > > -geo- > > > > > some give speeches... > some give a shower of words... > some don't like speeches... > some don't like showers of words... > > but then... > > a coffee maybe?... > > Marc I would take a shower in coffee, but it might be bad for my skin. Some like golden showers, but that is not my thing. I think I'll just stick with plain ordinary H2O. Until the planet runs out, or until civilization collapses, whichever comes first. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Friday, August 28, 2009 1:49 PM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > thing that has to be forgiven arises. > -J.Krishnamurti- > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not > there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't > there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone > who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks > about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > about himself. > - D - > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > -geo- > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't > listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. > What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, > it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > - D - > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not > the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > -geo- Geo - Don't you get it yet? I am K! Geez. You made me come right out and say it. I've been trying to be subtle about it, but that seems to be lost on you. Everything I've said about K, I've been saying about myself. I hope this finally clears it all up for you. Thanks for your concern, Dan Yes. This clears the matter. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 7:38 AM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Love is not the opposite of anything. It is not the opposite of hate or of > > violence. Even if you do not depend on anybody and live a most virtuous > > life - do social work, demonstrate up and down the street - if you have no > > love it has no value at all. If you love, then you can do what you will. > > For the man who loves there is no error - or if there is an error, he > > corrects it immediately. A man who loves has no jealousy, no remorse; for > > him there is no forgiveness, because there is not a moment in which a > > thing that has to be forgiven arises. > > -J.Krishnamurti- > > > > if he is not, there is no sin. but if so, he doesn't know that he's not > > there, because he's not there to know it. commenting about how one isn't > > there, and therefore is able to love, is the self-conscious act of someone > > who is there, but prefers to believe he is not there. so, he gives talks > > about how he isn't there, to validate what he wishes were true of himself. > > and if it were true, he wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be making speeches > > about himself. > > - D - > > > > But you do....and claim not to be here... > > -geo- > > > > No one is here, Geo.Not you, not K, not me, not anyone. You sure don't > > listen well to me. There aren't special cases. So, take love as it is. > > What has no opposite, has no special persons to represent it. If it did, > > it would have an opposite (those other people who don't love like I do). > > - D - > > > > But you do give speeches...and say that K should not have done. Why not > > the same motives and reasons you atribute to K 's case work for dan? > > Why K saying it makes him special, but dan saying it does not? > > -geo- > > > > some give speeches... > some give a shower of words... > some don't like speeches... > some don't like showers of words... > > but then... > > a coffee maybe?... > > Marc > > That is not the point here...not just preferences. It is the contradiction, > hypocrisy, and the fear of looking at ones own lies. We all had had > insights - at least most of those who write here. But then we all are back > into concepts, lost in thoughts - it is normal. We trust the past and > believe it is still " going on " .We criticize others and are not aware of our > own preconceptions - that is all the past taken as the present. It requires > guts to see this in oneself, in me, here. And when there is the refusal to > see it there is all kind of logical/mental contortions to validate ones own > lies. Someone defined man as " the only animal that lies " . > I'll take the coffee... :>) > -geo- Geo - Indeed, if one doesn't attribute anything to a past that isn't, there is no confusion whatsoever. There isn't any concern with someone else giving me false information about " what is so, " it's clear, evident, obvious. Although in conventional terms, yes, honest information is good. That is, if I'm looking for directions to a restaurant, it is good if someone doesn't decide to send me to the opposite side of town. In terms of philosophy or personal psychology, though, I see little point to straightening others out and getting them to see their errors, delusions, and self-deceit. Seems, based on experience, a waste of energy. Besides, the actuality of being doesn't involve a particular philosophical point of view, nor a personal psychological interpretation. None of that is here. Of course, if everyone were not referencing the past for meaning, it could mean the end of religion. And that would put a lot of people out of work. With the way the economy is right now, we probably couldn't afford it. So, maybe in two or three years, when the economy is either back on track or totally kaput - at that point it will be a good idea to stop attributing meaning to a past that isn't, and to end our projections of a future based on the past. How about Sunday, Dec. 3, 2012? - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Yes. This clears the matter. > -geo- > Ah, good. I'll finally be able to get some sleep tonight. Peace! (and smiles) - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > In terms of philosophy or personal psychology, though, I see little point to straightening others out and getting them to see their errors, delusions, and self-deceit. Seems, based on experience, a waste of energy. By the way, when someone is ready, and he or she wants to understand in a way that end self-deceit -- that's an entirely different story. And then, it's not someone else straightening them out, it's one's own self-honesty and that's all. Maybe someone else played a part in it because one allowed them to - but it's one's readiness for self-honesty. A mysterious deal, but very nice when it happens. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Friday, August 28, 2009 2:27 PM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > In terms of philosophy or personal psychology, though, I see little point > to straightening others out and getting them to see their errors, > delusions, and self-deceit. Seems, based on experience, a waste of energy. By the way, when someone is ready, and he or she wants to understand in a way that end self-deceit -- that's an entirely different story. And then, it's not someone else straightening them out, it's one's own self-honesty and that's all. Maybe someone else played a part in it because one allowed them to - but it's one's readiness for self-honesty. A mysterious deal, but very nice when it happens. - D - I have always been very " thankfull " for those few that where able to conect with my personal dellusions. Its analogous to finding a rare blood type in need. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 2:27 PM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > In terms of philosophy or personal psychology, though, I see little point > > to straightening others out and getting them to see their errors, > > delusions, and self-deceit. Seems, based on experience, a waste of energy. > > By the way, when someone is ready, and he or she wants to understand in a > way that end self-deceit -- that's an entirely different story. > > And then, it's not someone else straightening them out, it's one's own > self-honesty and that's all. Maybe someone else played a part in it because > one allowed them to - but it's one's readiness for self-honesty. A > mysterious deal, but very nice when it happens. > > - D - > > I have always been very " thankfull " for those few that where able to conect > with my personal dellusions. Its analogous to finding a rare blood type in > need. > -geo- Funny! So true. It helps one to maintain the strength to notice the consensus delusion that forms the trance that is taken as reality. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Friday, August 28, 2009 3:38 PM Re: intro Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 2:27 PM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > In terms of philosophy or personal psychology, though, I see little > > point > > to straightening others out and getting them to see their errors, > > delusions, and self-deceit. Seems, based on experience, a waste of > > energy. > > By the way, when someone is ready, and he or she wants to understand in a > way that end self-deceit -- that's an entirely different story. > > And then, it's not someone else straightening them out, it's one's own > self-honesty and that's all. Maybe someone else played a part in it > because > one allowed them to - but it's one's readiness for self-honesty. A > mysterious deal, but very nice when it happens. > > - D - > > I have always been very " thankfull " for those few that where able to > conect > with my personal dellusions. Its analogous to finding a rare blood type in > need. > -geo- Funny! So true. It helps one to maintain the strength to notice the consensus delusion that forms the trance that is taken as reality. - D - The big ancient hypnotizer... Never take for granted he is not somewhere around....never. Maybe some heroes from mythological tales could afford to think so...not us!!! None of us!! -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Friday, August 28, 2009 3:38 PM > Re: intro > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, August 28, 2009 2:27 PM > > Re: intro > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > In terms of philosophy or personal psychology, though, I see little > > > point > > > to straightening others out and getting them to see their errors, > > > delusions, and self-deceit. Seems, based on experience, a waste of > > > energy. > > > > By the way, when someone is ready, and he or she wants to understand in a > > way that end self-deceit -- that's an entirely different story. > > > > And then, it's not someone else straightening them out, it's one's own > > self-honesty and that's all. Maybe someone else played a part in it > > because > > one allowed them to - but it's one's readiness for self-honesty. A > > mysterious deal, but very nice when it happens. > > > > - D - > > > > I have always been very " thankfull " for those few that where able to > > conect > > with my personal dellusions. Its analogous to finding a rare blood type in > > need. > > -geo- > > Funny! > > So true. > > It helps one to maintain the strength to notice the consensus delusion that > forms the trance that is taken as reality. > > - D - > > The big ancient hypnotizer... Never take for granted he is not somewhere > around....never. Maybe some heroes from mythological tales could afford to > think so...not us!!! None of us!! > -geo- > IGNORE THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > > > Shhhhh.... > > > The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. > > If you don't believe me, you can google it. > > > - Dan - Everyone keeps saying to google it, and I keep getting the same results: " Results 1 - 10 of about 6,870,000,000 for it. (0.09 seconds) " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > > > > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > > > > > Shhhhh.... > > > > > > The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. > > > > If you don't believe me, you can google it. > > > > > > - Dan - > > Everyone keeps saying to google it, and I keep getting the same results: > > " Results 1 - 10 of about 6,870,000,000 for it. (0.09 seconds) " > Yeah.........That's what I'm talkin bout. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > > > > > > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > > > > > > > Shhhhh.... > > > > > > > > > The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. > > > > > > If you don't believe me, you can google it. > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > Everyone keeps saying to google it, and I keep getting the same results: > > > > " Results 1 - 10 of about 6,870,000,000 for it. (0.09 seconds) " > > > > > > Yeah.........That's what I'm talkin bout. > toombaru A bout of fever, or a bout of talking, it's bout the same thing ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > > > > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > > > > > Shhhhh.... > > > > > > The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. > > > > If you don't believe me, you can google it. > > > > > > - Dan - > > Everyone keeps saying to google it, and I keep getting the same results: > > " Results 1 - 10 of about 6,870,000,000 for it. (0.09 seconds) " You're very literal, all of a sudden. Being so literal won't help you find the answer to everything. But since you are being literal, I'll be very explicit: google: " answer to the universe life and everything " check out result #1. Once you do, you will finally have the answer you so richly deserve, my son. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > > > > > > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > > > > > > > Shhhhh.... > > > > > > > > > The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. > > > > > > If you don't believe me, you can google it. > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > Everyone keeps saying to google it, and I keep getting the same results: > > > > " Results 1 - 10 of about 6,870,000,000 for it. (0.09 seconds) " > > > You're very literal, all of a sudden. > > Being so literal won't help you find the answer to everything. > > But since you are being literal, I'll be very explicit: google: > > " answer to the universe life and everything " > > check out result #1. > > > Once you do, you will finally have the answer you so richly deserve, my son. > > > - D - I knew the answer was 42. But, what's the answer to 42? How did it become 6*7? Google doesn't seem to help with this one :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " fewtch " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mebbe the answer is -- nobody understands a thing. > > > > > > > > > > Yep, that's pretty much it ;-). > > > > > > > > > > Shhhhh.... > > > > > > > > > > > > The answer to the universe, life, and everything is 42. > > > > > > > > If you don't believe me, you can google it. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > Everyone keeps saying to google it, and I keep getting the same results: > > > > > > " Results 1 - 10 of about 6,870,000,000 for it. (0.09 seconds) " > > > > > > You're very literal, all of a sudden. > > > > Being so literal won't help you find the answer to everything. > > > > But since you are being literal, I'll be very explicit: google: > > > > " answer to the universe life and everything " > > > > check out result #1. > > > > > > Once you do, you will finally have the answer you so richly deserve, my son. > > > > > > - D - > > I knew the answer was 42. > > But, what's the answer to 42? > > How did it become 6*7? > > Google doesn't seem to help with this one :-p. P.S. oh my goodness... I've spoiled it for everyone. Shhhh... don't mention anything about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Geo - > > Don't you get it yet? > > I am K! > > Geez. You made me come right out and say it. It's 'k, to say you are 'K. I'm 'k, you're 'k... Is that 'k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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