Your original face before your parents conceived you ...

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.... is not your brain.

 

 

Hello?!!!

 

 

Is anybody out there?

 

 

LOL.

 

 

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> ... is not your brain.

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> Hello?!!!

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> Is anybody out there?

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> LOL.

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> - D -

 

Science is today's religion.

 

How to talk to religious fanatics? Ya got me, Dan (whatcha gonna do with me?

;-p).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > ... is not your brain.

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> > Hello?!!!

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> > Is anybody out there?

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> > LOL.

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> > - D -

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> Science is today's religion.

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> How to talk to religious fanatics? Ya got me, Dan (whatcha gonna do with me?

;-p).

 

 

Nothing.

 

Just laugh.

 

Helplessly.

 

Hopelessly.

 

Delusionally.

 

 

But at least I'm aware of the delusion - of appearing as a dream character to

interact with dream characters.

 

Delusion is okay - as long as it's recognized as nonvolitional.

 

Just comes and goes like anything else.

 

 

Or, I may start running round the streets, going up to complete strangers:

 

" Mr., Mr., please. Ya gotta stop this dream. Stop it, before it's too late. "

 

Like that guy in Invasion of the Body Snatchers, back in the 50's.

 

 

 

-- D --

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > > ... is not your brain.

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello?!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > Is anybody out there?

> > >

> > >

> > > LOL.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> > Science is today's religion.

> >

> > How to talk to religious fanatics? Ya got me, Dan (whatcha gonna do with

me? ;-p).

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> Nothing.

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> Just laugh.

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> Helplessly.

>

> Hopelessly.

>

> Delusionally.

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>

> But at least I'm aware of the delusion - of appearing as a dream character to

interact with dream characters.

>

> Delusion is okay - as long as it's recognized as nonvolitional.

 

Sure... or call it 'imagination' instead, to use a 'nicer' word.

 

Nothing wrong with playing in the fields of imagination from time to time. Why

not?

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > > ... is not your brain.

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello?!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > Is anybody out there?

> > >

> > >

> > > LOL.

 

 

 

 

>http://www.americanbuddhist.net/oliver-sacks-what-hallucination-reveals-about-o\

ur-minds

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> ... is not your brain.

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> Hello?!!!

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> Is anybody out there?

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>

> LOL.

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>

>

> - D -

 

 

P: No, is not the brain. Original mind is just

a meta4 pointing to the fact that no original

mind will ever be found. Even nothingness is not

original mind. Nothingness is just another meta4

pointing to the nonexistence of any ground.

>

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:56 AM

Re: Your original face before your parents conceived

you ...

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> ... is not your brain.

>

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> Hello?!!!

>

>

> Is anybody out there?

>

>

> LOL.

>

>

>

> - D -

 

P: No, is not the brain. Original mind is just

a meta4 pointing to the fact that no original

mind will ever be found. Even nothingness is not

original mind. Nothingness is just another meta4

pointing to the nonexistence of any ground.

 

geo> That is because you are missing it. Nothingness is not the same as

no-thing-ness. Anyway, for the time being, your ground is your brain.

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:56 AM

> Re: Your original face before your parents conceived

> you ...

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > ... is not your brain.

> >

> >

> > Hello?!!!

> >

> >

> > Is anybody out there?

> >

> >

> > LOL.

> >

> >

> >

> > - D -

>

> P: No, is not the brain. Original mind is just

> a meta4 pointing to the fact that no original

> mind will ever be found. Even nothingness is not

> original mind. Nothingness is just another meta4

> pointing to the nonexistence of any ground.

>

> geo> That is because you are missing it.

 

P: Missing what?

 

G: Nothingness is not the same as

> no-thing-ness.

 

P: You need to define that word you invented.

There is no such word in English as no-thing-ness.

 

G: Anyway, for the time being, your ground is your brain.

 

P: Is that so? What is your ground?

 

 

>

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:21 PM

Re: Your original face before your parents conceived

you ...

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:56 AM

> Re: Your original face before your parents

> conceived

> you ...

>

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > ... is not your brain.

> >

> >

> > Hello?!!!

> >

> >

> > Is anybody out there?

> >

> >

> > LOL.

> >

> >

> >

> > - D -

>

> P: No, is not the brain. Original mind is just

> a meta4 pointing to the fact that no original

> mind will ever be found. Even nothingness is not

> original mind. Nothingness is just another meta4

> pointing to the nonexistence of any ground.

>

> geo> That is because you are missing it.

 

P: Missing what?

 

G: Nothingness is not the same as

> no-thing-ness.

 

P: You need to define that word you invented.

There is no such word in English as no-thing-ness.

 

G: Anyway, for the time being, your ground is your brain.

 

P: Is that so? What is your ground?

 

geo> Certainly could not be " my brain " because that is just a brain

construct. .

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > ... is not your brain.

> >

> >

> > Hello?!!!

> >

> >

> > Is anybody out there?

> >

> >

> > LOL.

> >

> >

> >

> > - D -

>

>

> P: No, is not the brain. Original mind is just

> a meta4 pointing to the fact that no original

> mind will ever be found.

 

Dan said " your original face before your parents conceived you " , not " original

mind " .

 

One's original face is in plain view, quite honestly.

 

It isn't seen, because folks are looking elsewhere. Nobody is interested.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > > ... is not your brain.

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello?!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > Is anybody out there?

> > >

> > >

> > > LOL.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> >

> > P: No, is not the brain. Original mind is just

> > a meta4 pointing to the fact that no original

> > mind will ever be found.

>

> Dan said " your original face before your parents conceived you " , not " original

mind " .

>

> One's original face is in plain view, quite honestly.

>

> It isn't seen, because folks are looking elsewhere. Nobody is interested.

 

 

D: Yes. Very true.

 

One's original face is plainly in view, right here, where there

isn't any actual boundary for the self.

 

Nobody is interested, because there isn't any identity

to be had from it. There isn't any emotional kick, like

people look for when they go back-and-forth with others.

No other to go back-and-forth with - what's going to

be gratifying about that?