Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: The Empty Boat If a man is crossing a river And an empty boat collides with his own skiff Even though he be a bad-tempered man He will not become very angry. But if he sees a man in the boat, He will shout at him to steer clear. If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, And yet again, and begin cursing. And all because there is somebody in the boat. Yet if the boat were empty, He would not be shouting, and not be angry. If you can empty your own boat Crossing the river of the world, No one will oppose you, No one will seek to harm you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: > > The Empty Boat > > If a man is crossing a river > And an empty boat collides with his own skiff > Even though he be a bad-tempered man > He will not become very angry. > But if he sees a man in the boat, > He will shout at him to steer clear. > If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, > And yet again, and begin cursing. > And all because there is somebody in the boat. > Yet if the boat were empty, > He would not be shouting, and not be angry. > > If you can empty your own boat > Crossing the river of the world, > No one will oppose you, > No one will seek to harm you. > Thank you Werner, this speaks to me. Much love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: > > > > The Empty Boat > > > > If a man is crossing a river > > And an empty boat collides with his own skiff > > Even though he be a bad-tempered man > > He will not become very angry. > > But if he sees a man in the boat, > > He will shout at him to steer clear. > > If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, > > And yet again, and begin cursing. > > And all because there is somebody in the boat. > > Yet if the boat were empty, > > He would not be shouting, and not be angry. > > > > If you can empty your own boat > > Crossing the river of the world, > > No one will oppose you, > > No one will seek to harm you. > > > > > > Thank you Werner, this speaks to me. > > Much love, > Anna > Tim: You just speak to yourelf ... Dan: The fact is, the person it speaks to is a dream character. Geo: Can your pc screen speak ? Werner: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: > > > > > > The Empty Boat > > > > > > If a man is crossing a river > > > And an empty boat collides with his own skiff > > > Even though he be a bad-tempered man > > > He will not become very angry. > > > But if he sees a man in the boat, > > > He will shout at him to steer clear. > > > If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, > > > And yet again, and begin cursing. > > > And all because there is somebody in the boat. > > > Yet if the boat were empty, > > > He would not be shouting, and not be angry. > > > > > > If you can empty your own boat > > > Crossing the river of the world, > > > No one will oppose you, > > > No one will seek to harm you. > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Werner, this speaks to me. > > > > Much love, > > Anna > > > > > Tim: You just speak to yourelf ... > Dan: The fact is, the person it speaks to is a dream character. > Geo: Can your pc screen speak ? > > Werner: > ;-) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: > > > > > > The Empty Boat > > > > > > If a man is crossing a river > > > And an empty boat collides with his own skiff > > > Even though he be a bad-tempered man > > > He will not become very angry. > > > But if he sees a man in the boat, > > > He will shout at him to steer clear. > > > If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, > > > And yet again, and begin cursing. > > > And all because there is somebody in the boat. > > > Yet if the boat were empty, > > > He would not be shouting, and not be angry. > > > > > > If you can empty your own boat > > > Crossing the river of the world, > > > No one will oppose you, > > > No one will seek to harm you. > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Werner, this speaks to me. > > > > Much love, > > Anna > > > > > Tim: You just speak to yourelf ... > Dan: The fact is, the person it speaks to is a dream character. > Geo: Can your pc screen speak ? > > Werner: All " pointers " , Werner. They look mighty silly when taken literally, don't they? :-p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: > > > > > > > > The Empty Boat > > > > > > > > If a man is crossing a river > > > > And an empty boat collides with his own skiff > > > > Even though he be a bad-tempered man > > > > He will not become very angry. > > > > But if he sees a man in the boat, > > > > He will shout at him to steer clear. > > > > If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, > > > > And yet again, and begin cursing. > > > > And all because there is somebody in the boat. > > > > Yet if the boat were empty, > > > > He would not be shouting, and not be angry. > > > > > > > > If you can empty your own boat > > > > Crossing the river of the world, > > > > No one will oppose you, > > > > No one will seek to harm you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Werner, this speaks to me. > > > > > > Much love, > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > Tim: You just speak to yourelf ... > > Dan: The fact is, the person it speaks to is a dream character. > > Geo: Can your pc screen speak ? > > > > Werner: > > All " pointers " , Werner. They look mighty silly when taken literally, don't they? :-p. > It's up to you, Tim. It's up to you ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > All " pointers " , Werner. They look mighty silly when taken literally, don't they? :-p. > > > > > It's up to you, Tim. It's up to you ... > > Werner Up, up and away... in my beautiful, my beautiful, balooooon :-p... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > From The Way of Chuang Tzu, by Thomas Merton: > > > > > > The Empty Boat > > > > > > If a man is crossing a river > > > And an empty boat collides with his own skiff > > > Even though he be a bad-tempered man > > > He will not become very angry. > > > But if he sees a man in the boat, > > > He will shout at him to steer clear. > > > If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, > > > And yet again, and begin cursing. > > > And all because there is somebody in the boat. > > > Yet if the boat were empty, > > > He would not be shouting, and not be angry. > > > > > > If you can empty your own boat > > > Crossing the river of the world, > > > No one will oppose you, > > > No one will seek to harm you. > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Werner, this speaks to me. > > > > Much love, > > Anna > > > > > Tim: You just speak to yourelf ... > Dan: The fact is, the person it speaks to is a dream character. > Geo: Can your pc screen speak ? > > Werner: Btw, something can 'speak to me', without a self being there. It just means " feelings of positivity co-arise with these words " , or " a feeling of meaningfulness arises when these words are read " . There doesn't need to be a self for any of this, because there never has been a self. Language/conceptuality includes the assumption of 'self and other', falsely. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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