Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 There is no Guru, no disciple, because when I dont exist, there is qualitless changless Absolute - no words are there possible, who would describe what? and what remains? Quality ´I am´, which is also formless, universla and for this quality devotion to Absolute is entirely natural, so this quality serve to qualitless Absolute - to Sadguru. Hence devotion to Sadguru is natural like breathing, like walking, sleeping, working, - all this is service to Sadguru ... ____________ > Od: "toombaru" <lastrain > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 25.09.2009 17:52 > PÅ™edmÄ›t: Re: devotion after realization > Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > Nisargadatta said that even after final understanding devotion of his Guru, Sri Siddharameshwar has not left him and hold him tight. Unknown (or I dont exist) is vijnana, it is ok, final, nothing else, but still there is devotion (or I am He). Maharaj closest disciples, which are not followers, but Gurus, said me, that Maharaj prostrated before picture of his Guru many, many times daily. Ando not only before this picture, but before his codisciples, Nivritinath samadhi and others jnanis... > > So why to continue in this dry thinking and not just declare awe to Guru, from whom you received knowledge? > > This conference is focused on Nisargadatta teaching, but I miss real devotee of this Mahatma - dont forget that there is no diference between devotee and Guru ... > > So why not open widely our heart and restart:) > > new conference of formless beings sharing love, help and peace > > Jai Guru > > Ales > Do you try to copy everything that your guru did? Do you smoke cigarettes? Do you sell cigarettes for a living? Do you worship the radio that brings you the Sunday morning sermon? Nisargadatta was the vehicle through which the Ultimate Understanding passed and you are the vessel into which it flowed. If there is no difference between you.......when you adore his picture......you are in love with the image of your self....... If you continue to hold onto any'thing'.....including the love for your guru........you are stuck in the tarpit dream. I would suggest that you can step out of the tracks that your guru left........and explore the edge of Awareness. But the world will never be your own....will never be the pristine ever-emerging-freshness.........looking through the eyes of your guru. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > There is no Guru, no disciple, because when I dont exist, there is qualitless changless Absolute - no words are there possible, who would describe what? > > and what remains? Quality ´I am´, which is also formless, universla and for this quality devotion to Absolute is entirely natural, so this quality serve to qualitless Absolute - to Sadguru. Hence devotion to Sadguru is natural like breathing, like walking, sleeping, working, - all this is service to Sadguru ... > Do you worship yourself? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 I am not awake, so this question is strange. what is worshipping, what is self, what is your???? ____________ > Od: "toombaru" <lastrain > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 25.09.2009 18:17 > Předmět: Re: non-duality devotion > Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > There is no Guru, no disciple, because when I dont exist, there is qualitless changless Absolute - no words are there possible, who would describe what? > > and what remains? Quality ´I am´, which is also formless, universla and for this quality devotion to Absolute is entirely natural, so this quality serve to qualitless Absolute - to Sadguru. Hence devotion to Sadguru is natural like breathing, like walking, sleeping, working, - all this is service to Sadguru ... > Do you worship yourself? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > I am not awake, so this question is strange. > what is worshipping, what is self, what is your???? > Do you believe that one day you will be awake? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 No change, no believe What to do? Ales ____________ > Od: "toombaru" <lastrain > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 25.09.2009 18:41 > Předmět: Re: non-duality devotion > Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > I am not awake, so this question is strange. > what is worshipping, what is self, what is your???? > Do you believe that one day you will be awake? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > No change, no believe > > What to do? > > Ales > > Do you believe that a person can become enlightened? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 you mean person of unbarren perents? ____________ > Od: "toombaru" <lastrain > Komu: Nisargadatta > Datum: 25.09.2009 18:58 > Předmět: Re: non-duality devotion > Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > No change, no believe > > What to do? > > Ales > > Do you believe that a person can become enlightened? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 you mean person of unbarren perents? -alesa- Why do you call that which is not born a person? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 it is true:) per - son is not fair towards per - daughter:) so baby is better, but dont confuse it with Baba:) Ales ____________ > Od: "geo" <inandor > Komu: <Nisargadatta > > Datum: 25.09.2009 19:27 > Předmět: Re: Re: non-duality devotion > you mean person of unbarren perents? -alesa- Why do you call that which is not born a person? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 (((((((Allessandro)))))))) how nice to see you again!!! Love, Anna Nisargadatta , <alesadamek wrote: > > it is true:) > > per - son is not fair towards per - daughter:) > > so baby is better, but dont confuse it with Baba:) > > Ales > > ____________ > > Od: " geo " > > Komu: > > Datum: 25.09.2009 19:27 > > Předmět: Re: Re: non-duality devotion > > >  > > > > you mean person of unbarren perents? > -alesa- > > Why do you call that which is not born a person? > -geo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009  OK bbb!!!! Wellcome back! -geo- - alesadamek Nisargadatta Friday, September 25, 2009 2:44 PM Re: Re: non-duality devotion it is true:)per - son is not fair towards per - daughter:)so baby is better, but dont confuse it with Baba:)Ales____________> Od: "geo" <inandor (AT) uol (DOT) com.br>> Komu: <Nisargadatta >> Datum: 25.09.2009 19:27> Předmět: Re: Re: non-duality devotion> you mean person of unbarren perents?-alesa-Why do you call that which is not born a person?-geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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