Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Can you live without beauty and love? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > toombaru > Would you want to? ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > toombaru " External " beauty, " external " love? Certainly. Do externals really cause beauty and love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Would you want to? > > ~A > The more the understanding that the self is non-existent percolates down through the synapses......the more its pseudo-reality is seen as a meaningless self-referential loop devoid of a anything of value. All of its ideas about beauty and love are seen a addendums to the survival program. Things are still loved and seen a beautiful......but are not sought out. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Would you want to? > > > > ~A > > > > > The more the understanding that the self is non-existent percolates down through the synapses......the more its pseudo-reality is seen as a meaningless self-referential loop devoid of a anything of value. > > > All of its ideas about beauty and love are seen a addendums to the survival program. > > > Things are still loved and seen a beautiful......but are not sought out. > > > > > toombaru You mean.......you don't make an effort..... to go to the ocean.... concerts....museums.....watch sunrises & sunsets....look into your wife's.....grandchildren's eyes? I don't beLIEve it for a moment, toomie, my love. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you want to? > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > The more the understanding that the self is non-existent percolates down through the synapses......the more its pseudo-reality is seen as a meaningless self-referential loop devoid of a anything of value. > > > > > > All of its ideas about beauty and love are seen a addendums to the survival program. > > > > > > Things are still loved and seen a beautiful......but are not sought out. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > You mean.......you don't make an effort..... to go to the ocean.... > concerts....museums.....watch sunrises & sunsets....look into your wife's.....grandchildren's eyes? > > I don't beLIEve it for a moment, toomie, my love. > > ~A > Nate is seven.......tonight we wrestled. After.....he laid on my back and laughed........and then I laughed. We are playing " Little Big Planet " after dinner. They are spending then night. Their mother qualified for the television show " Wipeout " . Nothing was sought. And it is wonderful. Are you coming to Marin? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > " External " beauty, " external " love? Certainly. > > Do externals really cause beauty and love? > certainly not... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Can you live without beauty and love? > > > > toombaru > can you live without this self-important edge fools?... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 > Things are still loved and seen a beautiful......but are not sought out.> > > > > toombaru> You mean.......you don't make an effort..... to go to the ocean....> concerts....museums.....watch sunrises & sunsets....look into your wife's.....grandchildren's eyes?> I don't beLIEve it for a moment, toomie, my love.> ~A Perhaps toombaru means that if beauty and love are *already* present, there's no urge to go looking for them! Besides, the seeking effort (tension/contraction) to find or experience them actually prevents the unreserved unobstructed "openness" that IS and allows for love, beauty,etc to flow into. ~M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > > Things are still loved and seen a beautiful......but are not sought out. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > You mean.......you don't make an effort..... to go to the ocean.... > > concerts....museums.....watch sunrises & sunsets....look into your wife's.....grandchildren's eyes? > > > I don't beLIEve it for a moment, toomie, my love. > > > ~A > > Perhaps toombaru means that if beauty and love are *already* present, there's no urge to go looking for them! Besides, the seeking effort (tension/contraction) to find or experience them actually prevents the unreserved unobstructed " openness " that IS and allows for love, beauty,etc to flow into. > > ~M > Yes. The self is the tension body suspended between attraction and repulsion. That cannot change without the total loss of the synaptic self and its imaginary world. That which is trying to be articulated is of an entirely different realm that cannot be conceptualized. The conceptual mind and its spurious self cannot assimilate anything in a non-conceptual format. In other words.....you can't get there from here. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 > Perhaps toombaru means that if beauty and love are *already* present, there's no urge to go looking for them! Besides, the seeking effort (tension/contraction) to find or experience them actually prevents the unreserved unobstructed "openness" that IS and allows for love, beauty,etc to flow into.> > ~M>toombru wrote... > Yes.> The self is the tension body suspended between attraction and repulsion.> That cannot change without the total loss of the synaptic self and its imaginary world.> That which is trying to be articulated is of an entirely different realm that cannot be conceptualized.> The conceptual mind and its spurious self cannot assimilate anything in a non-conceptual format.> In other words.....you can't get there from here.> toombaru Whadya mean I can't get there from here? Surely I can yell hard enough and long enough at an echo that it'll go away! :-)) ~M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > > Perhaps toombaru means that if beauty and love are *already* present, there's no urge to go looking for them! Besides, the seeking effort (tension/contraction) to find or experience them actually prevents the unreserved unobstructed " openness " that IS and allows for love, beauty,etc to flow into. > > > > ~M > > > > toombru wrote... > > Yes. > > > The self is the tension body suspended between attraction and repulsion. > > > That cannot change without the total loss of the synaptic self and its imaginary world. > > > That which is trying to be articulated is of an entirely different realm that cannot be conceptualized. > > > The conceptual mind and its spurious self cannot assimilate anything in a non-conceptual format. > > > In other words.....you can't get there from here. > > > toombaru > > Whadya mean I can't get there from here? Surely I can yell hard enough and long enough at an echo that it'll go away! :-)) > > ~M > LOL Yes. The mind paints every-thing and then studies the paint. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Perhaps toombaru means that if beauty and love are *already* present, there's no urge to go looking for them! Besides, the seeking effort (tension/contraction) to find or experience them actually prevents the unreserved unobstructed " openness " that IS and allows for love, beauty,etc to flow into. > > > > > > ~M > > > > > > > toombru wrote... > > > Yes. > > > > > The self is the tension body suspended between attraction and repulsion. > > > > > That cannot change without the total loss of the synaptic self and its imaginary world. > > > > > That which is trying to be articulated is of an entirely different realm that cannot be conceptualized. > > > > > The conceptual mind and its spurious self cannot assimilate anything in a non-conceptual format. > > > > > In other words.....you can't get there from here. > > > > > toombaru > > > > Whadya mean I can't get there from here? Surely I can yell hard enough and long enough at an echo that it'll go away! :-)) > > > > ~M > > > > > > > LOL > > > Yes. > > The mind paints every-thing and then studies the paint. > > > toombaru > When the heart hears the echo, worlds collapse. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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