Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I rather like this portrayal, although the word 'master' is kinda dumb, indicative mebbe of folks who want to be mastered... I dunno ;-). " The master is a child, a fool, a man asleep, a leaf tumbling in the wind. Inside, he is utterly free. He does exactly as he pleases. Rules mean nothing to him. He doesn't care who makes fun of him, because he is always playing and having a wonderful time. He lives as if he had no body. He seems to walk on air. He is unsmudged, like the clear sky or the smooth and shining surface of a vast lake. Because we are subject to the dualities which he has transcended, we glimpse his nature only through paradox. He sees but he sees nothing. He sees what cannot be seen. He knows but he knows nothing. He sleeps soundly without sleeping. He dreams without dreaming. He is busy, but he does nothing. He is not alive, nor is he dead. His secret, and the ultimate paradox, is that he stands on his own. He is completely by himself (svasthya). Only by an absolute indepence (svatantrya) has he discovered his absolute oneness with all things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > I rather like this portrayal, although the word 'master' is kinda dumb, indicative mebbe of folks who want to be mastered... I dunno ;-). > > " The master is a child, a fool, a man asleep, a leaf tumbling in the wind. Inside, he is utterly free. He does exactly as he pleases. Rules mean nothing to him. He doesn't care who makes fun of him, because he is always playing and having a wonderful time. > > He lives as if he had no body. He seems to walk on air. He is unsmudged, like the clear sky or the smooth and shining surface of a vast lake. > > Because we are subject to the dualities which he has transcended, we glimpse his nature only through paradox. He sees but he sees nothing. He sees what cannot be seen. He knows but he knows nothing. He sleeps soundly without sleeping. He dreams without dreaming. He is busy, > but he does nothing. He is not alive, nor is he dead. > > His secret, and the ultimate paradox, is that he stands on his own. He is completely by himself (svasthya). Only by an absolute indepence (svatantrya) has he discovered his absolute oneness with all things. > He!...and not the robbot " toomit " is responsible for It.... nobody else! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > I rather like this portrayal, although the word 'master' is kinda dumb, indicative mebbe of folks who want to be mastered... I dunno ;-). > > > > " The master is a child, a fool, a man asleep, a leaf tumbling in the wind. Inside, he is utterly free. He does exactly as he pleases. Rules mean nothing to him. He doesn't care who makes fun of him, because he is always playing and having a wonderful time. > > > > He lives as if he had no body. He seems to walk on air. He is unsmudged, like the clear sky or the smooth and shining surface of a vast lake. > > > > Because we are subject to the dualities which he has transcended, we glimpse his nature only through paradox. He sees but he sees nothing. He sees what cannot be seen. He knows but he knows nothing. He sleeps soundly without sleeping. He dreams without dreaming. He is busy, > > but he does nothing. He is not alive, nor is he dead. > > > > His secret, and the ultimate paradox, is that he stands on his own. He is completely by himself (svasthya). Only by an absolute indepence (svatantrya) has he discovered his absolute oneness with all things. > > > > > He!...and not the robbot " toomit " is responsible for It.... > > nobody else! > > > > Marc > Life as an identified entity can be very full of fear and stress. The mind likes to think that other people have transcended the travails and hardships of being a human. Mind likes to think that one day it too can......if the conditions are just right......slip into the bliss they imagine their adored teacher lives. Your totality is the very fear and tension that you are trying to avoid. The only difference between you and the most advanced teacher is the teacher has given up trying to understand. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 > The only difference between you and the most advanced teacher is the teacher has given up trying to understand. > > > > toombaru Is that the difference? All those people walking around like robots, riding buses, sitting in offices, fighting enemies, bored to death,...all those people are trying to understand the nature of what is? Are they trying to understand the nature of the ME? Are they trying to understand the nature of existence? I dont think so... -geo- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fix123br " <inandor wrote: > > > > The only difference between you and the most advanced teacher is the teacher has given up trying to understand. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Is that the difference? All those people walking around like robots, riding buses, sitting in offices, fighting enemies, bored to death,...all those people are trying to understand the nature of what is? Are they trying to understand the nature of the ME? Are they trying to understand the nature of existence? I dont think so... > -geo- > > > You don't think at all. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > I rather like this portrayal, although the word 'master' is kinda dumb, indicative mebbe of folks who want to be mastered... I dunno ;-). > > > > > > " The master is a child, a fool, a man asleep, a leaf tumbling in the wind. Inside, he is utterly free. He does exactly as he pleases. Rules mean nothing to him. He doesn't care who makes fun of him, because he is always playing and having a wonderful time. > > > > > > He lives as if he had no body. He seems to walk on air. He is unsmudged, like the clear sky or the smooth and shining surface of a vast lake. > > > > > > Because we are subject to the dualities which he has transcended, we glimpse his nature only through paradox. He sees but he sees nothing. He sees what cannot be seen. He knows but he knows nothing. He sleeps soundly without sleeping. He dreams without dreaming. He is busy, > > > but he does nothing. He is not alive, nor is he dead. > > > > > > His secret, and the ultimate paradox, is that he stands on his own. He is completely by himself (svasthya). Only by an absolute indepence (svatantrya) has he discovered his absolute oneness with all things. > > > > > > > > > He!...and not the robbot " toomit " is responsible for It.... > > > > nobody else! > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Life as an identified entity can be very full of fear and stress. > > The mind likes to think that other people have transcended the travails and hardships of being a human. > > Mind likes to think that one day it too can......if the conditions are just right......slip into the bliss they imagine their adored teacher lives. > > Your totality is the very fear and tension that you are trying to avoid. > > The only difference between you and the most advanced teacher is the teacher has given up trying to understand. > > > > toombaru > yes, toomit.... make some more effort... it's worth a try... .... means, just stop this your concepts... .... just be who you are... like everybody else... .... if not... continue this your concepts... .... nobody realy cares about Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fix123br " <inandor wrote: > > > > The only difference between you and the most advanced teacher is the teacher has given up trying to understand. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Is that the difference? All those people walking around like robots, riding buses, sitting in offices, fighting enemies, bored to death,...all those people are trying to understand the nature of what is? Are they trying to understand the nature of the ME? Are they trying to understand the nature of existence? I dont think so... > -geo- > > > the difference between them is a world filled up with a " self " .... such world is the self .... that's dual existence .... So....taking away the Imaginary/Maya/Fiction .... No difference is remaining Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " fix123br " <inandor wrote: > > > > The only difference between you and the most advanced teacher is the teacher has given up trying to understand. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Is that the difference? All those people walking around like robots, riding buses, sitting in offices, fighting enemies, bored to death,...all those people are trying to understand the nature of what is? Are they trying to understand the nature of the ME? Are they trying to understand the nature of existence? I dont think so... > -geo- > > > whoever is observing all this your described people.....is one of them.... teachers can't be realy observed....because they aren't what they appearently seem to be.... .... there is nothing to understand about teachers....realy nothing .... but there can very well be some understanding and knowledge that oneself isn't one of them....and appearent others too ..... for a teacher...there are no others and nobody, to (mis/don't)understand anymore .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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