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" If anyone thinks he can help you, he will inevitably mislead you, and the less

phoney he is, the more powerful he is; the more enlightened he is, the more

misery and mischief he will create for you. " -- U.G. Krishnamurti

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Yes, met the chap several times, he liked tennis, and kick butt of the one in

whose presence he got his 'calamity'/enlightenment...

.... but nice quote,

but, you,

still suffer, no?

 

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> " If anyone thinks he can help you, he will inevitably mislead you, and the

less phoney he is, the more powerful he is; the more enlightened he is, the more

misery and mischief he will create for you. " -- U.G. Krishnamurti

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I See you asked Tim about suffering several times. No answer.

 

If he " spoke " , he'd have to answer to a suffering Tim, and that

would be exceedingly difficult for him, since he'd have to answer

to someone.

 

~A

 

Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote:

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> Yes, met the chap several times, he liked tennis, and kick butt of the one in

whose presence he got his 'calamity'/enlightenment...

> ... but nice quote,

> but, you,

> still suffer, no?

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > " If anyone thinks he can help you, he will inevitably mislead you, and the

less phoney he is, the more powerful he is; the more enlightened he is, the more

misery and mischief he will create for you. " -- U.G. Krishnamurti

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote:

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> I See you asked Tim about suffering several times. No answer.

 

Pete seems to want to tell Tim, " You suffer " . As though he were here with me,

living my life, in my head, in my body, in my feelings, etc.

 

It's a very common delusion, and in extreme cases it's called " schizophrenia " --

where " others out there " are actually " here " , telling one what to do and such.

 

Pete has a lesser case of it, but it's the same delusive phenomenon.

Schizophrenics are " terminally " fragmented, Pete is just moderately fragmented

:-p.

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> > I See you asked Tim about suffering several times. No answer.

>

> Pete seems to want to tell Tim, " You suffer " . As though he were here with me,

living my life, in my head, in my body, in my feelings, etc.

>

> It's a very common delusion, and in extreme cases it's called " schizophrenia "

-- where " others out there " are actually " here " , telling one what to do and

such.

>

> Pete has a lesser case of it, but it's the same delusive phenomenon.

Schizophrenics are " terminally " fragmented, Pete is just moderately fragmented

:-p.

 

P: Do you believe in the One? Yes?

Then, the One speaks through Pete's posts. No?

>

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I See you asked Tim about suffering several times. No answer.

> >

> > Pete seems to want to tell Tim, " You suffer " . As though he were here with

me, living my life, in my head, in my body, in my feelings, etc.

> >

> > It's a very common delusion, and in extreme cases it's called

" schizophrenia " -- where " others out there " are actually " here " , telling one

what to do and such.

> >

> > Pete has a lesser case of it, but it's the same delusive phenomenon.

Schizophrenics are " terminally " fragmented, Pete is just moderately fragmented

:-p.

>

> P: Do you believe in the One? Yes?

> Then, the One speaks through Pete's posts. No?

 

Yes, the One speaks delusionally through Pete's posts ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I See you asked Tim about suffering several times. No answer.

> > >

> > > Pete seems to want to tell Tim, " You suffer " . As though he were here with

me, living my life, in my head, in my body, in my feelings, etc.

> > >

> > > It's a very common delusion, and in extreme cases it's called

" schizophrenia " -- where " others out there " are actually " here " , telling one

what to do and such.

> > >

> > > Pete has a lesser case of it, but it's the same delusive phenomenon.

Schizophrenics are " terminally " fragmented, Pete is just moderately fragmented

:-p.

> >

> > P: Do you believe in the One? Yes?

> > Then, the One speaks through Pete's posts. No?

>

> Yes, the One speaks delusionally through Pete's posts ;-).

 

And in answer to your question -- no, I don't suffer, because I don't believe

people when they tell me stuff like " you suffer " . They aren't here with me,

they don't know me, and so they're delusional.

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