Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > Toomie's more enlightened than Ramannnnnnn-a. Toomie's more enlightened than Ramannnnnnn-a :-p. > > > > > more or less " limited " than Ramana?.... > > lol > > Ramana would prefer to see Lakshmi.....than to hear this foolish > bubbles of a such limited being... > > > Marc What is believed to be 'toom' and 'marc' isn't a separate or limited being at all. There are no separate or limited beings. And so the belief in separate and limited beings is the separation and limitation, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > Toomie's more enlightened than Ramannnnnnn-a. Toomie's more enlightened than Ramannnnnnn-a :-p. > > > > > > > > > more or less " limited " than Ramana?.... > > > > lol > > > > Ramana would prefer to see Lakshmi.....than to hear this foolish > > bubbles of a such limited being... > > > > > > Marc > > What is believed to be 'toom' and 'marc' isn't a separate or limited being at all. There are no separate or limited beings. > > And so the belief in separate and limited beings is the separation and limitation, eh? > yes, there are no limited beings at all... but some behave more limited than others... .... in fact, there are only limitations in the eyes of a self-important limited being...... if the one who looks at things...is in love with himself.... like it appear to be in here... then it's impossible to see any self and Self .... even not in Ramana Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > yes, there are no limited beings at all... > > but some behave more limited than others... Wait a second... if there is no limitation, why impose the limit " some behave more limited than others " ? That is contradictory, nuh? And so, saying " there are no limited beings " and then limit that to " some " , is silly. > in fact, there are only limitations in the eyes of a self-important > limited being...... Is that so? And " where " does this belief in self-important limited beings exist? Hint -- where these words are appearing, right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Toomie's more enlightened than Ramannnnnnn-a. Toomie's more enlightened than Ramannnnnnn-a :-p. > > > > > > > > > > > > > more or less " limited " than Ramana?.... > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Ramana would prefer to see Lakshmi.....than to hear this foolish > > > bubbles of a such limited being... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > What is believed to be 'toom' and 'marc' isn't a separate or limited being at all. There are no separate or limited beings. > > > > And so the belief in separate and limited beings is the separation and limitation, eh? > > > > > yes, there are no limited beings at all... > > but some behave more limited than others... > > ... > > in fact, there are only limitations in the eyes of a self-important limited being...... > > if the one who looks at things...is in love with himself.... > > like it appear to be in here... > > then it's impossible to see any self and Self > > ... > > even not in Ramana > > > Marc > Ps: So...we should indeed have a heart for this Toomits... they don't know who they Are.. they don't know what they Do... .... and even are proud of it.... .... what a shame... but ok... the world is about That.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Ps: So...we should indeed have a heart for this Toomits... > > they don't know who they Are.. > > they don't know what they Do... " They, they, they, they " ... eh? All those limited beings " out there " , huh? Even though I, the reader, claim not to believe in limitation. Huh. OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > yes, there are no limited beings at all... > > > > but some behave more limited than others... > > Wait a second... if there is no limitation, why impose the limit " some behave more limited than others " ? > > That is contradictory, nuh? And so, saying " there are no limited beings " and then limit that to " some " , is silly. > > > in fact, there are only limitations in the eyes of a self-important > limited being...... > > Is that so? > > And " where " does this belief in self-important limited beings exist? Hint -- where these words are appearing, right now. some behavior.... like the one of this exemplary Toomits... is all about what is said before... .... it's not the behavior of " Marc " ...nor of " Tim " ... .... if we talk worldly... then we talk worldly... means...in distincions...in differtiations.... .... All...in relation to ....Nothing at all... That we Are And ever will be...for real Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Ps: So...we should indeed have a heart for this Toomits... > > > > they don't know who they Are.. > > > > they don't know what they Do... > > " They, they, they, they " ... eh? > > All those limited beings " out there " , huh? > > Even though I, the reader, claim not to believe in limitation. > > Huh. OK. > the world is filled up with such beings... more or less intelligent.... more or less enlightened... more or less free.... etc... ..... We are talking in here....because of an appearent world... Some are more attached to...like others. .... All this talk still can't make the world Real! .... There is no world and never will be....for real! .... Marc Ps: the wave will never be the ocean wave is wave ocean is ocean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " aoclery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm talking about something more than accusations Pete, let's deal with the issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A: You talked about an *enlightened brain*. As far as I know all creatures big and small have some sort of *brain*. I'm not sure if > > > > > > > an antelope or a duck can be enlightened, imo they already are. > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Laugh! Please don't fight a straw man. I didn't > > > > > > mention any other brains, but the human brain. Enlightenment > > > > > > in animals is moot point. To understand my point that > > > > > > only a human brain can be enlightened, and further > > > > > > liberated after enlightenment, ask yourself what else > > > > > > could be liberated beside the brain? Does That/True > > > > > > Nature/ Absolute/ Unknown, or whatever you want to > > > > > > call it, need enlightenment or liberation? Is it > > > > > > deluded in your opinion? If the answer is no, I think, > > > > > > any reasonable person will agree only the human brain, > > > > > > and its functioning called mind can be enlightened and > > > > > > liberated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >T: Like one can enlighten and liberate a shadow with a flashlight? > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Yes! We Can! > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Why all this talk of the brain? it is the mind not the brain. The brain is just hardware and perhaps softeware it is not the programmer etc. > > > > > > Birds have tiny brains yet can have high intelligence as the bird brain is superior in many respects to human/animal brains..Tony. > > > > > > > > > Mind is consciousness which has put on limitations. You are originally unlimited and perfect. Later you take on limitations and become the mind. > > > > Raman Maharshi > > > > > Baloney. > You were not originally unlimited. > You were not originally perfect. > You Are the limitation. > You have no existence outside of that arena. > > > > toombaru > Toomb, What was your original face before your parents were born ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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