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advaitin , " pakira_reddy " <pakirareddy wrote:

>

> May I request the experts of Advaita to enlighten me

> 'Is Advaita a religion? If not, why not?

>

> Dr.Kurri Pakirareddy

>

Dear sir

Even though not an expert trying to answer your question.We live in a dual

world which is a manifestation of language we speak and write.Non duality is not

the opposite of duality but the Truth.

Dual state of mind is responsible for human friction,commotion,and all sorts

of emotions.It is like a waves of ocean.

Advaitha(non duality) is not a religion but an investigation of one self.It is

neither simple acceptance nor denial but understanding the imposed i,e verbal

knowledge as is.If you require more details go in adhyasa ( imposed)

 

thank you

sekhar

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential though to

establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

 

 

Hmm, between what and what ?

 

 

> So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the limitation of

the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must

function.

 

 

Ok Geo, do it !

 

 

> -geo-

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It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential though to establish a harmonious dynamism between them. So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the limitation of the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must function.

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, October 19, 2009 1:41 PM

> Re: Advaita

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential though

> > to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

>

> Hmm, between what and what ?

>

> > So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the limitation

> > of the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must

> function.

>

> -geo-

>

> Ok Geo, do it !

> -w-

>

> It is being done: just observation, no observer. Are you doing it?

> -geo-

>

 

 

Geo,

 

'No observer' is an ideal you must have read somewhere.

 

No observer implies no longer any separation: No longer any thought appearing

which says 'I see','I am watching'. 'I am observing', 'I am aware of' etc.

 

Is this the case with you ?

 

If yes, then write to COEP 'Sosiecty of enlightened people' and ask for a

regitration and they will send you a sticker with that text: 'No Observer

Inside'

 

:)

 

Werner

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wwoehr

Nisargadatta

Monday, October 19, 2009 1:41 PM

Re: Advaita

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential though

> to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

 

Hmm, between what and what ?

 

> So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the limitation

> of the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must

function.

 

-geo-

 

Ok Geo, do it !

-w-

 

It is being done: just observation, no observer. Are you doing it?

-geo-

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wwoehr

Nisargadatta

Monday, October 19, 2009 2:32 PM

Re: Advaita

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, October 19, 2009 1:41 PM

> Re: Advaita

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> > though

> > to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

>

> Hmm, between what and what ?

>

> > So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the limitation

> > of the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must

> function.

>

> -geo-

>

> Ok Geo, do it !

> -w-

>

> It is being done: just observation, no observer. Are you doing it?

> -geo-

>

 

Geo,

 

'No observer' is an ideal you must have read somewhere.

-w-

 

There is no observer. Where is the observer?

-geo-

 

No observer implies no longer any separation: No longer any thought

appearing which says 'I see','I am watching'. 'I am observing', 'I am aware

of' etc.

 

Is this the case with you ?

-w-

 

Of course, yes. There is no " I " observing.

-geo-

 

If yes, then write to COEP 'Sosiecty of enlightened people' and ask for a

regitration and they will send you a sticker with that text: 'No Observer

Inside'

 

:)

 

Werner

 

Which leaves you with only two possibilities that make up one: either geo

read that and is parroting or he is faking enlightment. Very good stand for

an open dialogue :>)

-geo-

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cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Monday, October 19, 2009 4:33 PM

Re: Advaita

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, October 19, 2009 2:32 PM

> Re: Advaita

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > wwoehr

> > Nisargadatta

> > Monday, October 19, 2009 1:41 PM

> > Re: Advaita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> > > though

> > > to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

> >

> > Hmm, between what and what ?

> >

> > > So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the

> > > limitation

> > > of the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must

> > function.

> >

> > -geo-

> >

> > Ok Geo, do it !

> > -w-

> >

> > It is being done: just observation, no observer. Are you doing it?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> Geo,

>

> 'No observer' is an ideal you must have read somewhere.

> -w-

>

> There is no observer. Where is the observer?

> -geo-

>

> No observer implies no longer any separation: No longer any thought

> appearing which says 'I see','I am watching'. 'I am observing', 'I am

> aware

> of' etc.

>

> Is this the case with you ?

> -w-

>

> Of course, yes. There is no " I " observing.

> -geo-

>

> If yes, then write to COEP 'Sosiecty of enlightened people' and ask for a

> regitration and they will send you a sticker with that text: 'No Observer

> Inside'

>

> :)

>

> Werner

>

> Which leaves you with only two possibilities that make up one: either geo

> read that and is parroting or he is faking enlightment. Very good stand

> for

> an open dialogue :>)

 

> -geo-

 

P: Well I'm a good Advaita parrot spotter.

Here are the " telltail " signs:

 

They were green pants.

 

They very seldom, or never write anything

a beginner doesn't know.

 

They seldom write more than three sentences.

 

OK, Geo, beside that green shirt in your closet,

how many sentences does you posts have on average?

 

 

geo> 3.2 on average....ufffaa....that was close...

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > wwoehr

> > Nisargadatta

> > Monday, October 19, 2009 2:32 PM

> > Re: Advaita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > wwoehr

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Monday, October 19, 2009 1:41 PM

> > > Re: Advaita

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> > > > though

> > > > to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

> > >

> > > Hmm, between what and what ?

> > >

> > > > So in this sense attention is the continual perception of the limitation

> > > > of the known, of the bounded field where knowledge must

> > > function.

> > >

> > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Ok Geo, do it !

> > > -w-

> > >

> > > It is being done: just observation, no observer. Are you doing it?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > Geo,

> >

> > 'No observer' is an ideal you must have read somewhere.

> > -w-

> >

> > There is no observer. Where is the observer?

> > -geo-

> >

> > No observer implies no longer any separation: No longer any thought

> > appearing which says 'I see','I am watching'. 'I am observing', 'I am aware

> > of' etc.

> >

> > Is this the case with you ?

> > -w-

> >

> > Of course, yes. There is no " I " observing.

> > -geo-

> >

> > If yes, then write to COEP 'Sosiecty of enlightened people' and ask for a

> > regitration and they will send you a sticker with that text: 'No Observer

> > Inside'

> >

> > :)

> >

> > Werner

> >

> > Which leaves you with only two possibilities that make up one: either geo

> > read that and is parroting or he is faking enlightment. Very good stand for

> > an open dialogue :>)

>

> > -geo-

>

> P: Well, I'm a good Advaita parrot spotter.

> Here are the " telltail " signs:

>

> They wear green pants.

>

> They very seldom, or never write anything

> a beginner doesn't know.

>

> They seldom write more than three sentences.

>

> OK, Geo, besides that green shirt in your closet,

> how many sentences do you post on average?

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> though to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

 

There are not two separate 'things' to establish a relationship between. And

who's the third party that would do that, anyway? ;-).

 

Where is this " party " located, inside one's head? Which of the three should

bring the booze? ;-).

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, October 19, 2009 11:49 PM

> Re: Advaita

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> > though to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

>

> There are not two separate 'things' to establish a relationship between. And

> who's the third party that would do that, anyway? ;-).

>

> Where is this " party " located, inside one's head? Which of the three should

> bring the booze? ;-).

> -tim-

>

> Yes....I am not a good writer...not any kind of a writer in fact.

> That was

> badly expressed and a few words I had in mind are missing there.

 

Well, I say the thoughts that arise in the moment " for geo " are just fine, and

of course are always in the past by the time somebody else reads them... so the

intent wasn't to try and correct a past event ;-). Just to note an impression

of it, which is now another past event.

 

> What I

> wanted to say is that the known, knowledge can not be discarded or

> transformed. Once I learned to speak english I know it. I know my

> way home.

> I know how to drive a car. I know math. There is no point in trying > to get

> rid of all that.

 

Yes... instead one realizes that rather than an entity there called a " mind " or

" knowledge " , thoughts merely arising in the moment... another example of an

" -ing " instead of an entity. And so there isn't anybody to know anything...

instead, the " anybody " is also a thought that arises in the moment... or maybe

doesn't...

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Monday, October 19, 2009 11:49 PM

Re: Advaita

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> though to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

 

There are not two separate 'things' to establish a relationship between. And

who's the third party that would do that, anyway? ;-).

 

Where is this " party " located, inside one's head? Which of the three should

bring the booze? ;-).

-tim-

 

Yes....I am not a good writer...not any kind of a writer in fact. That was

badly expressed and a few words I had in mind are missing there. What I

wanted to say is that the known, knowledge can not be discarded or

transformed. Once I learned to speak english I know it. I know my way home.

I know how to drive a car. I know math. There is no point in trying to get

rid of all that. In fact the human world could not be recognized/lived

without a certain amount of knowledge. So I was trying to point out the need

of a harmonious co-existence between the known, the timebound....and the

essencialy unknowable and timeless. They are not separate, nothing is

separate.

-geo-

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Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:26 AM

Re: Advaita

 

 

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, October 19, 2009 11:49 PM

> Re: Advaita

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > It is not possible to discard knowledge, the known. It is essential

> > though to establish a harmonious dynamism between them.

>

> There are not two separate 'things' to establish a relationship between.

> And

> who's the third party that would do that, anyway? ;-).

>

> Where is this " party " located, inside one's head? Which of the three

> should

> bring the booze? ;-).

> -tim-

>

> Yes....I am not a good writer...not any kind of a writer in fact.

> That was

> badly expressed and a few words I had in mind are missing there.

 

Well, I say the thoughts that arise in the moment " for geo " are just fine,

and of course are always in the past by the time somebody else reads them...

so the intent wasn't to try and correct a past event ;-). Just to note an

impression of it, which is now another past event.

 

> What I

> wanted to say is that the known, knowledge can not be discarded or

> transformed. Once I learned to speak english I know it. I know my

> way home.

> I know how to drive a car. I know math. There is no point in trying > to

> get

> rid of all that.

 

Yes... instead one realizes that rather than an entity there called a " mind "

or " knowledge " , thoughts merely arising in the moment... another example of

an " -ing " instead of an entity. And so there isn't anybody to know

anything... instead, the " anybody " is also a thought that arises in the

moment... or maybe doesn't...

-t-

 

Indeed...another way of putting it.

-geo-

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