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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

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> Nothingness is a just way station on the road to Everythingness.

> >

> > Gary

>

> P: Well, Your Grace, in my new role of fighting language

> terrorism, and logic sabotage, I have to point out that

> " everythingness " is not an English noun. I have also been

> assigned to fight subversive metaphors. I'm now an agent

> of the Central Intelligent Metaphor Agency, or CIM.

>

> I'm also an agent of The Nondual Philosophy Homeland

> Security Agency, and in that capacity, I point out to

> you that Nothingness and Everything are mere empty

> philosophical terms. Logically, we can see that the

> mere act of mentioning nothingness proves such word

> as false because something, or someone is doing the

> mentioning. That is an obvious, irrefutable, certified

> truth by our department, and anyone doubting this will

> be declared an enemy combatant in possession of weapons

> of mess destruction. Such enemy combatants, could be

> subjected to enhanced interrogations methods such as

> being forced to listen to Pete's stories day and night

> without respite until they crack.

>

> Equally false, is that abomination called by you,

> everythingness. Things, being arbitrarily designed

> conceptual demarcations of the One, are inexhaustible,

> therefore, no one could say, this is everything, there

> is no more.

>

> Nevertheless, a human brain could have the mystical

> sensation of nothingness, as well as a sensation of

> total fullness, wholeness, and Oneness. Sensations,

> perceptions is all we know, of existents beyond, we

> only speculate.

>

> Agent Pete

>

 

 

Yes, Pete,

 

And the human brain is very well able to differ betwen shallow philosohpy of

nothingness and the sensation of one's own non-existence.

 

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nothingness is a just way station on the road to Everythingness.

> > >

> > > Gary

> >

> > P: Well, Your Grace, in my new role of fighting language

> > terrorism, and logic sabotage, I have to point out that

> > " everythingness " is not an English noun. I have also been

> > assigned to fight subversive metaphors. I'm now an agent

> > of the Central Intelligent Metaphor Agency, or CIM.

> >

> > I'm also an agent of The Nondual Philosophy Homeland

> > Security Agency, and in that capacity, I point out to

> > you that Nothingness and Everything are mere empty

> > philosophical terms. Logically, we can see that the

> > mere act of mentioning nothingness proves such word

> > as false because something, or someone is doing the

> > mentioning. That is an obvious, irrefutable, certified

> > truth by our department, and anyone doubting this will

> > be declared an enemy combatant in possession of weapons

> > of mess destruction. Such enemy combatants, could be

> > subjected to enhanced interrogations methods such as

> > being forced to listen to Pete's stories day and night

> > without respite until they crack.

> >

> > Equally false, is that abomination called by you,

> > everythingness. Things, being arbitrarily designed

> > conceptual demarcations of the One, are inexhaustible,

> > therefore, no one could say, this is everything, there

> > is no more.

> >

> > Nevertheless, a human brain could have the mystical

> > sensation of nothingness, as well as a sensation of

> > total fullness, wholeness, and Oneness. Sensations,

> > perceptions is all we know, of existents beyond, we

> > only speculate.

> >

> > Agent Pete

> >

>

>

> Yes, Pete,

>

> And the human brain is very well able to differ betwen shallow philosohpy of

nothingness and the sensation of one's own non-existence.

>

>

> Werner

>

 

 

 

Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nothingness is a just way station on the road to Everythingness.

> > > >

> > > > Gary

> > >

> > > P: Well, Your Grace, in my new role of fighting language

> > > terrorism, and logic sabotage, I have to point out that

> > > " everythingness " is not an English noun. I have also been

> > > assigned to fight subversive metaphors. I'm now an agent

> > > of the Central Intelligent Metaphor Agency, or CIM.

> > >

> > > I'm also an agent of The Nondual Philosophy Homeland

> > > Security Agency, and in that capacity, I point out to

> > > you that Nothingness and Everything are mere empty

> > > philosophical terms. Logically, we can see that the

> > > mere act of mentioning nothingness proves such word

> > > as false because something, or someone is doing the

> > > mentioning. That is an obvious, irrefutable, certified

> > > truth by our department, and anyone doubting this will

> > > be declared an enemy combatant in possession of weapons

> > > of mess destruction. Such enemy combatants, could be

> > > subjected to enhanced interrogations methods such as

> > > being forced to listen to Pete's stories day and night

> > > without respite until they crack.

> > >

> > > Equally false, is that abomination called by you,

> > > everythingness. Things, being arbitrarily designed

> > > conceptual demarcations of the One, are inexhaustible,

> > > therefore, no one could say, this is everything, there

> > > is no more.

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, a human brain could have the mystical

> > > sensation of nothingness, as well as a sensation of

> > > total fullness, wholeness, and Oneness. Sensations,

> > > perceptions is all we know, of existents beyond, we

> > > only speculate.

> > >

> > > Agent Pete

> > >

> >

> >

> > Yes, Pete,

> >

> > And the human brain is very well able to differ betwen shallow philosohpy of

nothingness and the sensation of one's own non-existence.

> >

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

>

> Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

 

You are wronged and tricked by logic and intellect, Toomb.

 

You can experience you own non-existence.

 

Werner

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Em 20/10/2009 17:56, toombaru < lastrain > escreveu:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Nothingness is a just way station on the road to Everythingness.

 

> > >

 

> > > Gary

 

> >

 

> > P: Well, Your Grace, in my new role of fighting language

 

> > terrorism, and logic sabotage, I have to point out that

 

> > " everythingness " is not an English noun. I have also been

 

> > assigned to fight subversive metaphors. I'm now an agent

 

> > of the Central Intelligent Metaphor Agency, or CIM.

 

> >

 

> > I'm also an agent of The Nondual Philosophy Homeland

 

> > Security Agency, and in that capacity, I point out to

 

> > you that Nothingness and Everything are mere empty

 

> > philosophical terms. Logically, we can see that the

 

> > mere act of mentioning nothingness proves such word

 

> > as false because something, or someone is doing the

 

> > mentioning. That is an obvious, irrefutable, certified

 

> > truth by our department, and anyone doubting this will

 

> > be declared an enemy combatant in possession of weapons

 

> > of mess destruction. Such enemy combatants, could be

 

> > subjected to enhanced interrogations methods such as

 

> > being forced to listen to Pete's stories day and night

 

> > without respite until they crack.

 

> >

 

> > Equally false, is that abomination called by you,

 

> > everythingness. Things, being arbitrarily designed

 

> > conceptual demarcations of the One, are inexhaustible,

 

> > therefore, no one could say, this is everything, there

 

> > is no more.

 

> >

 

> > Nevertheless, a human brain could have the mystical

 

> > sensation of nothingness, as well as a sensation of

 

> > total fullness, wholeness, and Oneness. Sensations,

 

> > perceptions is all we know, of existents beyond, we

 

> > only speculate.

 

> >

 

> > Agent Pete

 

> >

 

>

 

>

 

> Yes, Pete,

 

>

 

> And the human brain is very well able to differ betwen shallow philosohpy of

nothingness and the sensation of one's own non-existence.

 

>

 

>

 

> Werner

 

>

 

 

 

Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.

 

 

 

toombaru

 

The mind can conceive such idea. In fact I know a few with such a mind...

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nothingness is a just way station on the road to Everythingness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Gary

> > > >

> > > > P: Well, Your Grace, in my new role of fighting language

> > > > terrorism, and logic sabotage, I have to point out that

> > > > " everythingness " is not an English noun. I have also been

> > > > assigned to fight subversive metaphors. I'm now an agent

> > > > of the Central Intelligent Metaphor Agency, or CIM.

> > > >

> > > > I'm also an agent of The Nondual Philosophy Homeland

> > > > Security Agency, and in that capacity, I point out to

> > > > you that Nothingness and Everything are mere empty

> > > > philosophical terms. Logically, we can see that the

> > > > mere act of mentioning nothingness proves such word

> > > > as false because something, or someone is doing the

> > > > mentioning. That is an obvious, irrefutable, certified

> > > > truth by our department, and anyone doubting this will

> > > > be declared an enemy combatant in possession of weapons

> > > > of mess destruction. Such enemy combatants, could be

> > > > subjected to enhanced interrogations methods such as

> > > > being forced to listen to Pete's stories day and night

> > > > without respite until they crack.

> > > >

> > > > Equally false, is that abomination called by you,

> > > > everythingness. Things, being arbitrarily designed

> > > > conceptual demarcations of the One, are inexhaustible,

> > > > therefore, no one could say, this is everything, there

> > > > is no more.

> > > >

> > > > Nevertheless, a human brain could have the mystical

> > > > sensation of nothingness, as well as a sensation of

> > > > total fullness, wholeness, and Oneness. Sensations,

> > > > perceptions is all we know, of existents beyond, we

> > > > only speculate.

> > > >

> > > > Agent Pete

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, Pete,

> > >

> > > And the human brain is very well able to differ betwen shallow philosohpy

of nothingness and the sensation of one's own non-existence.

> > >

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

>

> You are wronged and tricked by logic and intellect, Toomb.

>

> You can experience you own non-existence.

>

> Werner

>

 

 

 

There is an entity that can be confused and tricked by its own intellect.

 

 

:-0

 

 

Now that's sacry!

 

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

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> There is an entity that can be confused and tricked by its own

> intellect.

 

There is no such entity that owns an intellect.

 

The concept of such an entity arises from nowhere, and appears to no one.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nothingness is a just way station on the road to Everythingness.

> > > >

> > > > Gary

> > >

> > > P: Well, Your Grace, in my new role of fighting language

> > > terrorism, and logic sabotage, I have to point out that

> > > " everythingness " is not an English noun. I have also been

> > > assigned to fight subversive metaphors. I'm now an agent

> > > of the Central Intelligent Metaphor Agency, or CIM.

> > >

> > > I'm also an agent of The Nondual Philosophy Homeland

> > > Security Agency, and in that capacity, I point out to

> > > you that Nothingness and Everything are mere empty

> > > philosophical terms. Logically, we can see that the

> > > mere act of mentioning nothingness proves such word

> > > as false because something, or someone is doing the

> > > mentioning. That is an obvious, irrefutable, certified

> > > truth by our department, and anyone doubting this will

> > > be declared an enemy combatant in possession of weapons

> > > of mess destruction. Such enemy combatants, could be

> > > subjected to enhanced interrogations methods such as

> > > being forced to listen to Pete's stories day and night

> > > without respite until they crack.

> > >

> > > Equally false, is that abomination called by you,

> > > everythingness. Things, being arbitrarily designed

> > > conceptual demarcations of the One, are inexhaustible,

> > > therefore, no one could say, this is everything, there

> > > is no more.

> > >

> > > Nevertheless, a human brain could have the mystical

> > > sensation of nothingness, as well as a sensation of

> > > total fullness, wholeness, and Oneness. Sensations,

> > > perceptions is all we know, of existents beyond, we

> > > only speculate.

> > >

> > > Agent Pete

> > >

> >

> >

> > Yes, Pete,

> >

> > And the human brain is very well able to differ betwen shallow philosohpy of

nothingness and the sensation of one's own non-existence.

> >

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

>

> Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

 

what could be the reason to " conceive it's own non-existence " ...?

 

you conceive endless concepts, logics etc....with empty messages behind.....

 

toombaru tend to hide behind mega concepts and logics....of no meaning at

all....

 

....

 

 

Marc

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> Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.> toombaru>> You are wronged and tricked by logic and intellect, Toomb.> You can experience you own non-existence.> Werner

 

I've never yet seen anyone be present at their own funeral. Wow! It must be quite an experience for you to be able to do that! What's your secret? How were you able to develop the ability to see what's not there to be seen?

 

~M

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Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson wrote:

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>

>

> > Nothing can conceive its own non-existence.

> > toombaru

> >

>

> > You are wronged and tricked by logic and intellect, Toomb.

> > You can experience you own non-existence.

> > Werner

>

> I've never yet seen anyone be present at their own funeral. Wow! It must be

quite an experience for you to be able to do that! What's your secret? How were

you able to develop the ability to see what's not there to be seen?

>

> ~M

>

 

 

 

The self has no presence to be absent from.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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> > You are wronged and tricked by logic and intellect, Toomb.> > You can experience you own non-existence.> > Werner> I've never yet seen anyone be present at their own funeral. Wow! It must be quite an experience for you to be able to do that! What's your secret? How were you able to develop the ability to see what's not there to be seen?> ~MHi toombaru,

 

Upon re-reading my post (just above), I find myself wondering if by including one of your posts and Werner's together it might have been confusing as to whose post I was referring, yours or Werner's. So, for what it's worth, it was directed toward Werner's comment...not yours.

 

~M

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