Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 there is no common consciousness existing .... consciousness is always related to an imaginary individual who is trapped by time & space and therefore is seeing and percieving many things he/she is Not... means, at first place, percieved by an entity, who is Not, for real. .... How to get out of such trap? .... get awareness and understanding about It! .... this doesn't make " you " real... .... but It leave you some so called non-duality... .... a non-duality which already have been " yours " ....since all times... ....in/at/by whatever spaces and times Marc Ps: be yourSelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > there is no common consciousness existing > -dt- > > I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our > world, is not perceived differently by different persons. It isn't described differently, but whether it's 'perceived' differently is unknowable. Nobody is 'in contact' with someone else's perception to know the answer to this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > there is no common consciousness existing > -dt- > > I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our > world, is not perceived differently by different persons. Many people > walking in a street have similar perceptions about the apparent nature of > that street. Even if we consider consciousness as the movement related to > the imagined center...even that consciousness is very similar among people. > The sense of separateness, the inner defenses, the fears, the desires...are > all very similar and seem to be based on a common river of illusion that > runs in the human world. Humanity walks a common path of perceptions, belong > to a common human mind. > -geo- > such mentionned " common human mind " is of " your " mind... this " your " mind is driven, indeed, by this mentionned " common human mind " .....means, as being One wholeness with yourself .... difficult issue... .... but what to tell about... .... Marc Ps: " you " have certainly a different consciousness than " me " .... what is common to both of " us " ...is absolutly Nothing! .... two different worlds just meet....for a limited duration of time... .... magic happen... when such appearent two different worlds....are seen as never having been for real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 there is no common consciousness existing -dt- I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our world, is not perceived differently by different persons. Many people walking in a street have similar perceptions about the apparent nature of that street. Even if we consider consciousness as the movement related to the imagined center...even that consciousness is very similar among people. The sense of separateness, the inner defenses, the fears, the desires...are all very similar and seem to be based on a common river of illusion that runs in the human world. Humanity walks a common path of perceptions, belong to a common human mind. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:19 AM Re: to be! or to don't be! something/somebody else! Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > there is no common consciousness existing > -dt- > > I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our > world, is not perceived differently by different persons. It isn't described differently, but whether it's 'perceived' differently is unknowable. Nobody is 'in contact' with someone else's perception to know the answer to this question. -tim- There is no need to get philosophical about it...like asking whether the blue I see is the same blue you see. Enough to look at people and realize that they behave very similarly, have similar problems, basically.... share similar fears..etc...So, among the infinite possible worlds to perceive humans live/perceive their common human world. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:40 PM Re: Re: to be! or to don't be! something/somebody else! - Tim G. Nisargadatta Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:19 AM Re: to be! or to don't be! something/somebody else! Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > there is no common consciousness existing > -dt- > > I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our > world, is not perceived differently by different persons. It isn't described differently, but whether it's 'perceived' differently is unknowable. Nobody is 'in contact' with someone else's perception to know the answer to this question. -tim- There is no need to get philosophical about it...like asking whether the blue I see is the same blue you see. Enough to look at people and realize that they behave very similarly, have similar problems, basically.... share similar fears..etc...So, among the infinite possible worlds to perceive humans live/perceive their common human world. The very fact that we are able to have this conversation is a " proof " that we chare a common ground of perception. Try to discuss this with a whale or an amoeba. You cant. This means that the human software is interpreting data in a very similar way in order to be able to interact this way with each other. Consider the infinite possible worlds and the fact is quite obvious. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 > there is no common consciousness existing > -dt- > > I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our > world, is not perceived differently by different persons. Many people > walking in a street have similar perceptions about the apparent nature of > that street. Even if we consider consciousness as the movement related to > the imagined center...even that consciousness is very similar among > people. > The sense of separateness, the inner defenses, the fears, the > desires...are > all very similar and seem to be based on a common river of illusion that > runs in the human world. Humanity walks a common path of perceptions, > belong > to a common human mind. > -geo- > such mentionned " common human mind " is of " your " mind... this " your " mind is driven, indeed, by this mentionned " common human mind " .....means, as being One wholeness with yourself .... difficult issue... .... but what to tell about... .... Marc What you call difficult is in fact beyond difficulty because it is the mistery. How the one became many-one is a miracle not for the human mind to " solve " ....so it is solved... -geo- Ps: " you " have certainly a different consciousness than " me " .... what is common to both of " us " ...is absolutly Nothing! -m- It is a mistery - really. No-thing is common to everything....but only I can say so :>) -geo- .... two different worlds just meet....for a limited duration of time... -m- They never parted -geo- .... magic happen... when such appearent two different worlds....are seen as never having been for real -m- One no-thing-ness.... wearing different glasses to look at each others sameness -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > there is no common consciousness existing > > -dt- > > > > I think this depends on how you are using the word. Our perceptions, our > > world, is not perceived differently by different persons. Many people > > walking in a street have similar perceptions about the apparent nature of > > that street. Even if we consider consciousness as the movement related to > > the imagined center...even that consciousness is very similar among > > people. > > The sense of separateness, the inner defenses, the fears, the > > desires...are > > all very similar and seem to be based on a common river of illusion that > > runs in the human world. Humanity walks a common path of perceptions, > > belong > > to a common human mind. > > -geo- > > > such mentionned " common human mind " is of " your " mind... > this " your " mind is driven, indeed, by this mentionned " common human > mind " .....means, as being One wholeness with yourself > > ... > > difficult issue... > > ... > > but what to tell about... > > ... > > Marc > > What you call difficult is in fact beyond difficulty because it is the > mistery. How the one became many-one is a miracle not for the human mind to > " solve " ....so it is solved... > -geo- > > Ps: " you " have certainly a different consciousness than " me " .... > what is common to both of " us " ...is absolutly Nothing! > -m- > > It is a mistery - really. No-thing is common to everything....but only I can > say so :>) > -geo- > > ... > > two different worlds just meet....for a limited duration of time... > -m- > > They never parted > -geo- > > ... > > magic happen... > when such appearent two different worlds....are seen as never having been > for real > > -m- > > One no-thing-ness.... wearing different glasses to look at each others > sameness > -geo- > look like geo is looking at many mysteries, indeed..... ..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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