Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. -- From " I Am That " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > -- From " I Am That " > yes... no need to join suffering at conferences .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > yes... > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > ... > > > > > Marc > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to conferences....... Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. > > > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > yes... > > > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to conferences....... > Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. > > > > > toombaru Imaginary choices of imaginary beings. One understands one is the projector, the screen, and everything " happening " on the screen - at once. The point-dots making the pictures keep fluctuating, on/off, on/off. Infinite configurations are possible and " happen " as movements move on. Thoughts appear and disappear. Countless body minds. Ideas of choices taken, and histories occurring. Nothing up my sleeve! Voila! A world, a being, lives, histories, choices. Poof! Now you see it, now you don't. Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. > > > > > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes... > > > > > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to conferences....... > > Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Imaginary choices of imaginary beings. > > One understands one is the projector, the screen, and everything " happening " on the screen - at once. > > The point-dots making the pictures keep fluctuating, on/off, on/off. ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes... > > > > > > > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to conferences....... > > > Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Imaginary choices of imaginary beings. > > > > One understands one is the projector, the screen, and everything " happening " on the screen - at once. > > > > The point-dots making the pictures keep fluctuating, on/off, on/off. > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > I just saw a dog run by. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > > > > > > > I just saw a dog run by. > > > > > toombaru " I am a mental picture of a dog running by " . Oh wait, it's gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw a dog run by. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > " I am a mental picture of a dog running by " . > > Oh wait, it's gone... > Everything downstream form " I " is conceptually separated. There's just no way to capture this with words. Or maybe just say really loud: " MU! " toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw a dog run by. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > " I am a mental picture of a dog running by " . > > > > Oh wait, it's gone... > > > > > > Everything downstream form " I " is conceptually separated. There is no " static " conceptual separation. Words/images arise and disappear, endlessly. There is nothing 'static' at all, particularly not an " I " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw a dog run by. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > " I am a mental picture of a dog running by " . > > > > > > Oh wait, it's gone... > > > > > > > > > > > Everything downstream form " I " is conceptually separated. > > There is no " static " conceptual separation. > > Words/images arise and disappear, endlessly. > > There is nothing 'static' at all, particularly not an " I " . > " I " is the attempt to stabilize. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Friday, October 30, 2009 5:54 PM > Re: tonight's Nisargadatta > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't > > > > > > respond. > > > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such > > > > > > indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part > > > > > > of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is > > > > > > enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you > > > > > > out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a > > > > > > matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are > > > > > > waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes... > > > > > > > > > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to > > > > conferences....... > > > > Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs > > > > and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Imaginary choices of imaginary beings. > > > > > > One understands one is the projector, the screen, and everything > > > " happening " on the screen - at once. > > > > > > The point-dots making the pictures keep fluctuating, on/off, on/off. > > > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > > > > I just saw a dog run by. > > toombaru > > Ohhh...toomba that is sooo beautifull!! How natural!! I think I love > you.... > -geo- > :-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 - toombaru Nisargadatta Friday, October 30, 2009 5:54 PM Re: tonight's Nisargadatta Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't > > > > > respond. > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such > > > > > indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part > > > > > of it. > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is > > > > > enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you > > > > > out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a > > > > > matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are > > > > > waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes... > > > > > > > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to > > > conferences....... > > > Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs > > > and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Imaginary choices of imaginary beings. > > > > One understands one is the projector, the screen, and everything > > " happening " on the screen - at once. > > > > The point-dots making the pictures keep fluctuating, on/off, on/off. > > ^^ Indeed. The picture is 'hazy' even, never having came into existence. > I just saw a dog run by. toombaru Ohhh...toomba that is sooo beautifull!! How natural!! I think I love you.... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta: You suffer and see others suffer, but you don't respond. > > > > > > Questioner: What you say is true, but what can I do about it? Such indeed is the situation. My helplessness and dullness are a part of it. > > > > > > Nisargadatta: Good enough. Look at yourself steadily -- it is enough. The door that locks you in, is also the door that lets you out. The `I am' is the door. Stay at it until it opens. As a matter of fact, it is open, only you are not at it. You are waiting at the non-existent painted doors, which will never open. > > > > > > -- From " I Am That " > > > > > > > > > yes... > > > > no need to join suffering at conferences > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > And if choice existed.......you could choose not to go to conferences....... > Especially if you were able to understand the nature of your own needs and see far into the future and determine the outcome of your choice. > > > > > toombaru > which conferences....? where exactly?..... when?... why?... .... there has never been any conference.... .... except in this " your " busy mind.... feeling to have...or to don't have a choice to join whatever " conferences " ... .... Toomits.... of/about/from/for/by all worlds.... have fun!! .... with...or without self... .... nobody cares!! .... lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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