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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

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> > It occurred to me (as you may or may not know, I'm a slow learner),

> > The Way of Werner aka Werner's Way © is to disengage...any type of so-called

relationship (which is a relationship btw) by telling everyone he doesn't give a

shit.

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> > Thanks Werner, I already gave, once...and I have nothing more to give.

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> > ~A

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> Anna the publcic gossiper !

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> But ok, can you answer, Anna, what is the difference between self-importance

and engagement ?

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> Werner

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It's not exactly *gossip*, is it?....Since you & I (occasionally) write in this

Niz group about supposedly *spiritual* matters.

 

Self-importance IS who we are... we're always acquiescing to that... no matter

what we call it... *engagement* is just one defining word.

 

It just seems to me you have a push-pull facet in your *engagement*.

 

So close... yet so far.

 

~A

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Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > >

> > > It occurred to me (as you may or may not know, I'm a slow learner),

> > > The Way of Werner aka Werner's Way © is to disengage...any type of

so-called relationship (which is a relationship btw) by telling everyone he

doesn't give a shit.

> > >

> > > Thanks Werner, I already gave, once...and I have nothing more to give.

> > >

> > > ~A

> > >

> >

> >

> > Anna the publcic gossiper !

> >

> > But ok, can you answer, Anna, what is the difference between self-importance

and engagement ?

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

> It's not exactly *gossip*, is it?....Since you & I (occasionally) write in

this Niz group about supposedly *spiritual* matters.

>

> Self-importance IS who we are... we're always acquiescing to that... no matter

what we call it... *engagement* is just one defining word.

>

 

 

Hm, Anna,

 

When I see someone suffering, for example a child, and I rush to help and to

bring relief, then there is no time left for self-importance because the

suffering of the child is to demanding.

 

But when for exmple I am pondering what I could invest in my identity 'to be

someone' then the idea can arise to get engaged in some social activity which

has got some high reputation. And now the situation is totally different.

 

It is the cunning mind which makes the difference, isn't it ?

 

Werner

 

 

> It just seems to me you have a push-pull facet in your *engagement*.

>

> So close... yet so far.

>

> ~A

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > It occurred to me (as you may or may not know, I'm a slow learner),

> > > > The Way of Werner aka Werner's Way © is to disengage...any type of

so-called relationship (which is a relationship btw) by telling everyone he

doesn't give a shit.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Werner, I already gave, once...and I have nothing more to give.

> > > >

> > > > ~A

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Anna the publcic gossiper !

> > >

> > > But ok, can you answer, Anna, what is the difference between

self-importance and engagement ?

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> >

> > It's not exactly *gossip*, is it?....Since you & I (occasionally) write in

this Niz group about supposedly *spiritual* matters.

> >

> > Self-importance IS who we are... we're always acquiescing to that... no

matter what we call it... *engagement* is just one defining word.

> >

>

>

> Hm, Anna,

>

> When I see someone suffering, for example a child, and I rush to help and to

bring relief, then there is no time left for self-importance because the

suffering of the child is to demanding.

>

> But when for exmple I am pondering what I could invest in my identity 'to be

someone' then the idea can arise to get engaged in some social activity which

has got some high reputation. And now the situation is totally different.

>

> It is the cunning mind which makes the difference, isn't it ?

>

> Werner

 

 

O, my apologies, Werner, I didn't know we were making a distinction.

 

I thought the reason (cunning mind?) we are on these groups (since there is no

immediate suffering child to save but our own inner child, as it were) was to

*communicate*.

 

As such it seems to me that you are hell-bent to avoid communication on any

terms save your own.

 

Just my opinion, my 2 cents.

 

 

~A

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> > It just seems to me you have a push-pull facet in your *engagement*.

> >

> > So close... yet so far.

> >

> > ~A

> >

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