Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > -geo- > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. .....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 - toombaru Nisargadatta Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:41 PM Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > -geo- > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. .....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. toombaru Me? Nah..... Read again. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:41 PM > Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > > > -geo- > > > > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. > > ....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. > > toombaru > > Me? Nah..... Read again. > -geo- it is the case that this dialogue.. may be considered in part... as well as in whole.. as a sort of sub-species of metaphor. i.e. aspects to be considered under the terms: metonymy and synecdoche: an intending of metaphor as a type of conceptual substitution... " pars pro toto " examples like: " white hair " for an elderly person " Fingers " or " Legs " as a nickname " a pair of hands " referring to a worker " Old Blue Eyes " referring to Frank Sinatra... come to mind. and by this strange chemistry you both are become " lost souls " the mutual misunderstanding between you gentlemen arises here.. because you are locked into these discreet parts of reference.. and thereby miss the forest for the trees. it is of course that the " Whole " is indeed unspeakable in itself.. but you unfortunately are both " missing the boat " in silly argument.. where there be none...yet where you " create " nine and more. who is right or wrong is what matters to you and not what in fact is. hopefully you both will outgrow this.. this adolescent need of supercilious correction one to the other. you are both " close " but enjoy thereby no cigar. by being so near in truth..and yet being derailed thereby.. you are both " personally " being led away far from that Truth. kiss and make up. you are One with that truth and with one another. my commandment is to Love one another as yourselves. and oh what a farce it is to render Love unto that which is not. this indeed is the Joy of Life and the Fool's Great Joke. i have strict confidence that both of you.. will someday dissolve into this Truth. bon chance! ..b b.b. p.s. no baba believes not in truth.. nor in what he has just uttered above. the spaces between the words however.. are fragrant with a Knowledge generally unknown to man. few there are which may enjoy that fragrance.. and discern by it's Glory.. the indication it acts as.. and the Revealing which is unfolded by it's apprehension. just so's you know guys. (.bx3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:41 PM > Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > > > -geo- > > > > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. > > ....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. > > toombaru > > Me? Nah..... Read again. > -geo- > Do you still believe that there is something that you can do....or not do.....to improve your chances to become happy and free? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:41 PM > > Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > > > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. > > > > ....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. > > > > toombaru > > > > Me? Nah..... Read again. > > -geo- > > > > > > Do you still believe that there is something that you can do....or not do.....to improve your chances to become happy and free? > > > > > toombaru > Who else is gonna do it for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru > > Nisargadatta > > Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:41 PM > > Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > > > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. > > > > ....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. > > > > toombaru > > > > Me? Nah..... Read again. > > -geo- > > > > > > Do you still believe that there is something that you can do....or not do.....to improve your chances to become happy and free? > > > > > toombaru oddly enough.. toombaru believes that querying like this.. can make some sort of difference. in some queer manner it is that here there is a knowing.. that all is...and that all happens without choice or design.. but that in his own " special " case and situation.. that " it " is a different story. it of course is not. a good shepherd lets go and let's live. that the members of the fold are contented in illusion.. unaware of the impending and needful slaughter.. which is the Transmutation of Utmost Intimacy and Utter Truth. in this Way the sheep eat contentedly.. without care or concern.. that they are thereby pleasingly fattened for their Lord's Banquet. which of course is their own Great Feast....the Big Empty. Which answers without thought word or deed.. All and Everything that shuffles in Suffering within Illusion. the Perfection of the Void is Realized as the Only Condition. Bless " they " which have " ears to hear " ... for " they " will die from their own " Suffering Succotash " and are Released in True Freedom. Hallelujah! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 - toombaru Nisargadatta Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:23 PM Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:41 PM > Re: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Focusing is the arising of the me and the other - sorrow (pleasure and > > pain). Unfocusing as being the ground - joy, freedom. > > > > -geo- > > > > Ok......then......just unfocus as being the ground. > > ....If you want some of the joy and freedom stuff. > > toombaru > > Me? Nah..... Read again. > -geo- > Do you still believe that there is something that you can do....or not do.....to improve your chances to become happy and free? toombaru Yes I do. Get out of the way. ....pffffft... -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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