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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > Well... it sounded a bit personal I admit - jsut sounded, though. I

was

> > > > > thinking in general impersonal terms.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > The unborn is utterly impersonal.

> > > >

> > > > And thus, the born, the personal, turns out to be impersonal.

> > > >

> > > > Although it may look very personal at first.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > > >

> > > > Within the born - which is impersonal - runs a stream of

personification, of

> > > > illusion as separateness

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Yes, definitive separation as factually real is illusion.

> > >

> > > Not tricked by illusion: even the illusion isn't arising in separation.

> > >

> > >

> > > - Dan -

> >

> >

> > why answer?

> >

> > you evidently have been tricked.

> >

> > illusion for whom?

> >

> > illusion by whom?

> >

> > you seem to be separated from the Actual.

> >

> > and remarkably you believe that you can separate yourself..

> >

> > from THAT and make a cogent comment.

> >

> > indeed..

> >

> > you have been flim-flammed..

> >

> > by an illusion of an illusion (self).

> >

> > as always.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

> No'one' has been flim-falmmed by an illusion.

> The sense of self IS the illusion.

toombaru

 

 

 

well of course naturally toombaru...

 

no " one " has been flim-falmmed(?) nor flim-flamed.

 

they or " we " ARE the flaming them-our-selves.

 

but..and " see here " ..

 

the green filters of invidia..

 

by and through which you read my words..

 

and the child-like and choice-less comments..

 

that you seemingly need make regarding those same words..

 

and by which you also feel emotionally compelled..

 

to " seem " to render " by choice " ..

 

and make comment as comment regarding those " choice " words..

 

these reactionary " in response " comments sounded by you..

 

which being apparent and predictably argumentative...

 

and which say nothing that isn't already obvious from what was said..

 

are merely an obvious and prehensile " take " on said words.

 

in that you have no choice...this is forgivable of course.

 

these are the same as the forthcoming " defenses " and " opinion " ..

 

that will be made regarding you..

 

for this showing by you of such extreme cupidity..

 

by she who believes that you are wisdom personified.

 

by the same she who is deluded in the strange and wired belief..

 

that she is reciprocally " in love " with you as well.

 

life's a wonderful thing to observe..

 

as a " foreseeable " and already known " somewhat " .

 

seen also with and by a certain smile..

 

and by and as " Certainty " Itself.

 

then again it is a certitude that..

 

there are no such things as things.

 

which of course says all that needs to be said about " life " .

 

here again..

 

the words are " designed " to draw you out toombaru..

 

and they succeed so well unquestionably..

 

as does my mere presence here which arouses you...

 

and makes the mouse reappear from it's seeming quiescence.

 

it could be said..in the parlance of " today " ..

 

and by the use of a title of a current TV show..

 

(of some fame and fashion)..

 

you have been " punked " .

 

it's fun no?

 

goody goody!

 

for " we " are helplessly and cheerfully of the same mind.

 

(it can be no other way)

 

though you may " feel " that you disagree...

 

it can be no other way.

 

and so i remain:

 

in whom..by whom..and through whom..

 

the " He " who makes possible for " you " this day..

 

such enjoyment as you may make and find herein.

 

you must remember this..

 

the love you make is the love you take.

 

let Freedom ring old chum.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > Well... it sounded a bit personal I admit - jsut sounded, though. I

was

> > > > > > thinking in general impersonal terms.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > The unborn is utterly impersonal.

> > > > >

> > > > > And thus, the born, the personal, turns out to be impersonal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Although it may look very personal at first.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > > >

> > > > > Within the born - which is impersonal - runs a stream of

personification, of

> > > > > illusion as separateness

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > Yes, definitive separation as factually real is illusion.

> > > >

> > > > Not tricked by illusion: even the illusion isn't arising in separation.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > - Dan -

> > >

> > >

> > > why answer?

> > >

> > > you evidently have been tricked.

> > >

> > > illusion for whom?

> > >

> > > illusion by whom?

> > >

> > > you seem to be separated from the Actual.

> > >

> > > and remarkably you believe that you can separate yourself..

> > >

> > > from THAT and make a cogent comment.

> > >

> > > indeed..

> > >

> > > you have been flim-flammed..

> > >

> > > by an illusion of an illusion (self).

> > >

> > > as always.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> > No'one' has been flim-falmmed by an illusion.

> > The sense of self IS the illusion.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

>

> well of course naturally toombaru...

>

> no " one " has been flim-falmmed(?) nor flim-flamed.

>

> they or " we " ARE the flaming them-our-selves.

>

> but..and " see here " ..

>

> the green filters of invidia..

>

> by and through which you read my words..

>

> and the child-like and choice-less comments..

>

> that you seemingly need make regarding those same words..

>

> and by which you also feel emotionally compelled..

>

> to " seem " to render " by choice " ..

>

> and make comment as comment regarding those " choice " words..

>

> these reactionary " in response " comments sounded by you..

>

> which being apparent and predictably argumentative...

>

> and which say nothing that isn't already obvious from what was said..

>

> are merely an obvious and prehensile " take " on said words.

>

> in that you have no choice...this is forgivable of course.

>

> these are the same as the forthcoming " defenses " and " opinion " ..

>

> that will be made regarding you..

>

> for this showing by you of such extreme cupidity..

>

> by she who believes that you are wisdom personified.

>

> by the same she who is deluded in the strange and wired belief..

>

> that she is reciprocally " in love " with you as well.

>

> life's a wonderful thing to observe..

>

> as a " foreseeable " and already known " somewhat " .

>

> seen also with and by a certain smile..

>

> and by and as " Certainty " Itself.

>

> then again it is a certitude that..

>

> there are no such things as things.

>

> which of course says all that needs to be said about " life " .

>

> here again..

>

> the words are " designed " to draw you out toombaru..

>

> and they succeed so well unquestionably..

>

> as does my mere presence here which arouses you...

>

> and makes the mouse reappear from it's seeming quiescence.

>

> it could be said..in the parlance of " today " ..

>

> and by the use of a title of a current TV show..

>

> (of some fame and fashion)..

>

> you have been " punked " .

>

> it's fun no?

>

> goody goody!

>

> for " we " are helplessly and cheerfully of the same mind.

>

> (it can be no other way)

>

> though you may " feel " that you disagree...

>

> it can be no other way.

>

> and so i remain:

>

> in whom..by whom..and through whom..

>

> the " He " who makes possible for " you " this day..

>

> such enjoyment as you may make and find herein.

>

> you must remember this..

>

> the love you make is the love you take.

>

> let Freedom ring old chum.

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

Yes.

Yes.

I see what you are trying to say.

I am just wondering.........why on earth are you saying it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

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> -

> toombaru

> Nisargadatta

> Monday, November 23, 2009 4:50 PM

> Re: The Absolute (an alternative reply)

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Well... it sounded a bit personal I admit - jsut sounded,

> > > > > > > though. I was

> > > > > > > thinking in general impersonal terms.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The unborn is utterly impersonal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And thus, the born, the personal, turns out to be impersonal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Although it may look very personal at first.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Within the born - which is impersonal - runs a stream of

> > > > > > personification, of

> > > > > > illusion as separateness

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, definitive separation as factually real is illusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not tricked by illusion: even the illusion isn't arising in

> > > > > separation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > - Dan -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > why answer?

> > > >

> > > > you evidently have been tricked.

> > > >

> > > > illusion for whom?

> > > >

> > > > illusion by whom?

> > > >

> > > > you seem to be separated from the Actual.

> > > >

> > > > and remarkably you believe that you can separate yourself..

> > > >

> > > > from THAT and make a cogent comment.

> > > >

> > > > indeed..

> > > >

> > > > you have been flim-flammed..

> > > >

> > > > by an illusion of an illusion (self).

> > > >

> > > > as always.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > No'one' has been flim-falmmed by an illusion.

> > > The sense of self IS the illusion.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> >

> > well of course naturally toombaru...

> >

> > no " one " has been flim-falmmed(?) nor flim-flamed.

> >

> > they or " we " ARE the flaming them-our-selves.

> >

> > but..and " see here " ..

> >

> > the green filters of invidia..

> >

> > by and through which you read my words..

> >

> > and the child-like and choice-less comments..

> >

> > that you seemingly need make regarding those same words..

> >

> > and by which you also feel emotionally compelled..

> >

> > to " seem " to render " by choice " ..

> >

> > and make comment as comment regarding those " choice " words..

> >

> > these reactionary " in response " comments sounded by you..

> >

> > which being apparent and predictably argumentative...

> >

> > and which say nothing that isn't already obvious from what was said..

> >

> > are merely an obvious and prehensile " take " on said words.

> >

> > in that you have no choice...this is forgivable of course.

> >

> > these are the same as the forthcoming " defenses " and " opinion " ..

> >

> > that will be made regarding you..

> >

> > for this showing by you of such extreme cupidity..

> >

> > by she who believes that you are wisdom personified.

> >

> > by the same she who is deluded in the strange and wired belief..

> >

> > that she is reciprocally " in love " with you as well.

> >

> > life's a wonderful thing to observe..

> >

> > as a " foreseeable " and already known " somewhat " .

> >

> > seen also with and by a certain smile..

> >

> > and by and as " Certainty " Itself.

> >

> > then again it is a certitude that..

> >

> > there are no such things as things.

> >

> > which of course says all that needs to be said about " life " .

> >

> > here again..

> >

> > the words are " designed " to draw you out toombaru..

> >

> > and they succeed so well unquestionably..

> >

> > as does my mere presence here which arouses you...

> >

> > and makes the mouse reappear from it's seeming quiescence.

> >

> > it could be said..in the parlance of " today " ..

> >

> > and by the use of a title of a current TV show..

> >

> > (of some fame and fashion)..

> >

> > you have been " punked " .

> >

> > it's fun no?

> >

> > goody goody!

> >

> > for " we " are helplessly and cheerfully of the same mind.

> >

> > (it can be no other way)

> >

> > though you may " feel " that you disagree...

> >

> > it can be no other way.

> >

> > and so i remain:

> >

> > in whom..by whom..and through whom..

> >

> > the " He " who makes possible for " you " this day..

> >

> > such enjoyment as you may make and find herein.

> >

> > you must remember this..

> >

> > the love you make is the love you take.

> >

> > let Freedom ring old chum.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> Yes.

> Yes.

> I see what you are trying to say.

> I am just wondering.........why on earth are you saying it?

>

> toombaru

>

> Why did you say that?

> -geo-

>

 

 

I could never know that since the sense of " I " emerges in the saying of it.

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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toombaru

Nisargadatta

Monday, November 23, 2009 4:50 PM

Re: The Absolute (an alternative reply)

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > Well... it sounded a bit personal I admit - jsut sounded,

> > > > > > though. I was

> > > > > > thinking in general impersonal terms.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > The unborn is utterly impersonal.

> > > > >

> > > > > And thus, the born, the personal, turns out to be impersonal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Although it may look very personal at first.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > > >

> > > > > Within the born - which is impersonal - runs a stream of

> > > > > personification, of

> > > > > illusion as separateness

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > Yes, definitive separation as factually real is illusion.

> > > >

> > > > Not tricked by illusion: even the illusion isn't arising in

> > > > separation.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > - Dan -

> > >

> > >

> > > why answer?

> > >

> > > you evidently have been tricked.

> > >

> > > illusion for whom?

> > >

> > > illusion by whom?

> > >

> > > you seem to be separated from the Actual.

> > >

> > > and remarkably you believe that you can separate yourself..

> > >

> > > from THAT and make a cogent comment.

> > >

> > > indeed..

> > >

> > > you have been flim-flammed..

> > >

> > > by an illusion of an illusion (self).

> > >

> > > as always.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> > No'one' has been flim-falmmed by an illusion.

> > The sense of self IS the illusion.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

>

> well of course naturally toombaru...

>

> no " one " has been flim-falmmed(?) nor flim-flamed.

>

> they or " we " ARE the flaming them-our-selves.

>

> but..and " see here " ..

>

> the green filters of invidia..

>

> by and through which you read my words..

>

> and the child-like and choice-less comments..

>

> that you seemingly need make regarding those same words..

>

> and by which you also feel emotionally compelled..

>

> to " seem " to render " by choice " ..

>

> and make comment as comment regarding those " choice " words..

>

> these reactionary " in response " comments sounded by you..

>

> which being apparent and predictably argumentative...

>

> and which say nothing that isn't already obvious from what was said..

>

> are merely an obvious and prehensile " take " on said words.

>

> in that you have no choice...this is forgivable of course.

>

> these are the same as the forthcoming " defenses " and " opinion " ..

>

> that will be made regarding you..

>

> for this showing by you of such extreme cupidity..

>

> by she who believes that you are wisdom personified.

>

> by the same she who is deluded in the strange and wired belief..

>

> that she is reciprocally " in love " with you as well.

>

> life's a wonderful thing to observe..

>

> as a " foreseeable " and already known " somewhat " .

>

> seen also with and by a certain smile..

>

> and by and as " Certainty " Itself.

>

> then again it is a certitude that..

>

> there are no such things as things.

>

> which of course says all that needs to be said about " life " .

>

> here again..

>

> the words are " designed " to draw you out toombaru..

>

> and they succeed so well unquestionably..

>

> as does my mere presence here which arouses you...

>

> and makes the mouse reappear from it's seeming quiescence.

>

> it could be said..in the parlance of " today " ..

>

> and by the use of a title of a current TV show..

>

> (of some fame and fashion)..

>

> you have been " punked " .

>

> it's fun no?

>

> goody goody!

>

> for " we " are helplessly and cheerfully of the same mind.

>

> (it can be no other way)

>

> though you may " feel " that you disagree...

>

> it can be no other way.

>

> and so i remain:

>

> in whom..by whom..and through whom..

>

> the " He " who makes possible for " you " this day..

>

> such enjoyment as you may make and find herein.

>

> you must remember this..

>

> the love you make is the love you take.

>

> let Freedom ring old chum.

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

Yes.

Yes.

I see what you are trying to say.

I am just wondering.........why on earth are you saying it?

 

toombaru

 

Why did you say that?

-geo-

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Well... it sounded a bit personal I admit - jsut sounded, though.

I was

> > > > > > > thinking in general impersonal terms.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The unborn is utterly impersonal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And thus, the born, the personal, turns out to be impersonal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Although it may look very personal at first.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Within the born - which is impersonal - runs a stream of

personification, of

> > > > > > illusion as separateness

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, definitive separation as factually real is illusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not tricked by illusion: even the illusion isn't arising in

separation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > - Dan -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > why answer?

> > > >

> > > > you evidently have been tricked.

> > > >

> > > > illusion for whom?

> > > >

> > > > illusion by whom?

> > > >

> > > > you seem to be separated from the Actual.

> > > >

> > > > and remarkably you believe that you can separate yourself..

> > > >

> > > > from THAT and make a cogent comment.

> > > >

> > > > indeed..

> > > >

> > > > you have been flim-flammed..

> > > >

> > > > by an illusion of an illusion (self).

> > > >

> > > > as always.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > No'one' has been flim-falmmed by an illusion.

> > > The sense of self IS the illusion.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> >

> > well of course naturally toombaru...

> >

> > no " one " has been flim-falmmed(?) nor flim-flamed.

> >

> > they or " we " ARE the flaming them-our-selves.

> >

> > but..and " see here " ..

> >

> > the green filters of invidia..

> >

> > by and through which you read my words..

> >

> > and the child-like and choice-less comments..

> >

> > that you seemingly need make regarding those same words..

> >

> > and by which you also feel emotionally compelled..

> >

> > to " seem " to render " by choice " ..

> >

> > and make comment as comment regarding those " choice " words..

> >

> > these reactionary " in response " comments sounded by you..

> >

> > which being apparent and predictably argumentative...

> >

> > and which say nothing that isn't already obvious from what was said..

> >

> > are merely an obvious and prehensile " take " on said words.

> >

> > in that you have no choice...this is forgivable of course.

> >

> > these are the same as the forthcoming " defenses " and " opinion " ..

> >

> > that will be made regarding you..

> >

> > for this showing by you of such extreme cupidity..

> >

> > by she who believes that you are wisdom personified.

> >

> > by the same she who is deluded in the strange and wired belief..

> >

> > that she is reciprocally " in love " with you as well.

> >

> > life's a wonderful thing to observe..

> >

> > as a " foreseeable " and already known " somewhat " .

> >

> > seen also with and by a certain smile..

> >

> > and by and as " Certainty " Itself.

> >

> > then again it is a certitude that..

> >

> > there are no such things as things.

> >

> > which of course says all that needs to be said about " life " .

> >

> > here again..

> >

> > the words are " designed " to draw you out toombaru..

> >

> > and they succeed so well unquestionably..

> >

> > as does my mere presence here which arouses you...

> >

> > and makes the mouse reappear from it's seeming quiescence.

> >

> > it could be said..in the parlance of " today " ..

> >

> > and by the use of a title of a current TV show..

> >

> > (of some fame and fashion)..

> >

> > you have been " punked " .

> >

> > it's fun no?

> >

> > goody goody!

> >

> > for " we " are helplessly and cheerfully of the same mind.

> >

> > (it can be no other way)

> >

> > though you may " feel " that you disagree...

> >

> > it can be no other way.

> >

> > and so i remain:

> >

> > in whom..by whom..and through whom..

> >

> > the " He " who makes possible for " you " this day..

> >

> > such enjoyment as you may make and find herein.

> >

> > you must remember this..

> >

> > the love you make is the love you take.

> >

> > let Freedom ring old chum.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

>

> Yes.

> Yes.

> I see what you are trying to say.

> I am just wondering.........why on earth are you saying it?

toombaru

 

 

why does the wind blow?..

 

this is a reply to that " everyman " of which i too am..

 

without possibility of escaping while yet remaining Incarnate.

 

so please do not take any " personal " offence.

 

it a referent ONLY to that which is Unnameable.

 

 

 

indeed whenever the awesome and awe-full Truth is referred to..

 

it can be a cause for alarm to neophytes and initiates alike.

 

and just as children are frightened...

 

by aspects of life as it really is when discovered..

 

perhaps causing an appalling and horrifying dismay in reaction..

 

it can and should be foreseen...

 

that the approach made towards " IT " ..

 

must be eluded to and delivered unto " others " ..

 

slowly and carefully.

 

i do here and now apologize for the " getting to close " at times...

 

to the Touchstone Elixir.

 

it is best not to " frighten the natives " ..

 

and i would just have all men understand..

 

that it was not my intent to cause fear or anger within or without.

 

it was merely a sharing of that..

 

which there must be am some inkling of association...

 

even unto Identity.

 

my mistake...my bad.

 

i will honor the boundary edges of unconscious intentional ignorance..

 

that is the crucifixion of intellectual sin henceforth.

 

and will therefore try and not delve to deeply..

 

into the Realm of Actuality.

 

but by golly it can be Joy unending.

 

it would seem that there needs must be for all..

 

" stages " of further growth..

 

and furthermore even greater reckonings yet advanced.

 

a Wonder awaits " us " and is the Promise that ever is fulfilled.

 

be patient and lose not Faith.

 

for the Inevitability and Peace is Here NOW already.

 

Blessings.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well... it sounded a bit personal I admit - jsut sounded,

though. I was

> > > > > > > > thinking in general impersonal terms.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The unborn is utterly impersonal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And thus, the born, the personal, turns out to be impersonal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Although it may look very personal at first.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Within the born - which is impersonal - runs a stream of

personification, of

> > > > > > > illusion as separateness

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, definitive separation as factually real is illusion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not tricked by illusion: even the illusion isn't arising in

separation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Dan -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > why answer?

> > > > >

> > > > > you evidently have been tricked.

> > > > >

> > > > > illusion for whom?

> > > > >

> > > > > illusion by whom?

> > > > >

> > > > > you seem to be separated from the Actual.

> > > > >

> > > > > and remarkably you believe that you can separate yourself..

> > > > >

> > > > > from THAT and make a cogent comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > indeed..

> > > > >

> > > > > you have been flim-flammed..

> > > > >

> > > > > by an illusion of an illusion (self).

> > > > >

> > > > > as always.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > No'one' has been flim-falmmed by an illusion.

> > > > The sense of self IS the illusion.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > well of course naturally toombaru...

> > >

> > > no " one " has been flim-falmmed(?) nor flim-flamed.

> > >

> > > they or " we " ARE the flaming them-our-selves.

> > >

> > > but..and " see here " ..

> > >

> > > the green filters of invidia..

> > >

> > > by and through which you read my words..

> > >

> > > and the child-like and choice-less comments..

> > >

> > > that you seemingly need make regarding those same words..

> > >

> > > and by which you also feel emotionally compelled..

> > >

> > > to " seem " to render " by choice " ..

> > >

> > > and make comment as comment regarding those " choice " words..

> > >

> > > these reactionary " in response " comments sounded by you..

> > >

> > > which being apparent and predictably argumentative...

> > >

> > > and which say nothing that isn't already obvious from what was said..

> > >

> > > are merely an obvious and prehensile " take " on said words.

> > >

> > > in that you have no choice...this is forgivable of course.

> > >

> > > these are the same as the forthcoming " defenses " and " opinion " ..

> > >

> > > that will be made regarding you..

> > >

> > > for this showing by you of such extreme cupidity..

> > >

> > > by she who believes that you are wisdom personified.

> > >

> > > by the same she who is deluded in the strange and wired belief..

> > >

> > > that she is reciprocally " in love " with you as well.

> > >

> > > life's a wonderful thing to observe..

> > >

> > > as a " foreseeable " and already known " somewhat " .

> > >

> > > seen also with and by a certain smile..

> > >

> > > and by and as " Certainty " Itself.

> > >

> > > then again it is a certitude that..

> > >

> > > there are no such things as things.

> > >

> > > which of course says all that needs to be said about " life " .

> > >

> > > here again..

> > >

> > > the words are " designed " to draw you out toombaru..

> > >

> > > and they succeed so well unquestionably..

> > >

> > > as does my mere presence here which arouses you...

> > >

> > > and makes the mouse reappear from it's seeming quiescence.

> > >

> > > it could be said..in the parlance of " today " ..

> > >

> > > and by the use of a title of a current TV show..

> > >

> > > (of some fame and fashion)..

> > >

> > > you have been " punked " .

> > >

> > > it's fun no?

> > >

> > > goody goody!

> > >

> > > for " we " are helplessly and cheerfully of the same mind.

> > >

> > > (it can be no other way)

> > >

> > > though you may " feel " that you disagree...

> > >

> > > it can be no other way.

> > >

> > > and so i remain:

> > >

> > > in whom..by whom..and through whom..

> > >

> > > the " He " who makes possible for " you " this day..

> > >

> > > such enjoyment as you may make and find herein.

> > >

> > > you must remember this..

> > >

> > > the love you make is the love you take.

> > >

> > > let Freedom ring old chum.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

> >

> > Yes.

> > Yes.

> > I see what you are trying to say.

> > I am just wondering.........why on earth are you saying it?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> why does the wind blow?..

>

> this is a reply to that " everyman " of which i too am..

>

> without possibility of escaping while yet remaining Incarnate.

>

> so please do not take any " personal " offence.

>

> it a referent ONLY to that which is Unnameable.

>

>

>

> indeed whenever the awesome and awe-full Truth is referred to..

>

> it can be a cause for alarm to neophytes and initiates alike.

>

> and just as children are frightened...

>

> by aspects of life as it really is when discovered..

>

> perhaps causing an appalling and horrifying dismay in reaction..

>

> it can and should be foreseen...

>

> that the approach made towards " IT " ..

>

> must be eluded to and delivered unto " others " ..

>

> slowly and carefully.

>

> i do here and now apologize for the " getting to close " at times...

>

> to the Touchstone Elixir.

>

> it is best not to " frighten the natives " ..

>

> and i would just have all men understand..

>

> that it was not my intent to cause fear or anger within or without.

>

> it was merely a sharing of that..

>

> which there must be am some inkling of association...

>

> even unto Identity.

>

> my mistake...my bad.

>

> i will honor the boundary edges of unconscious intentional ignorance..

>

> that is the crucifixion of intellectual sin henceforth.

>

> and will therefore try and not delve to deeply..

>

> into the Realm of Actuality.

>

> but by golly it can be Joy unending.

>

> it would seem that there needs must be for all..

>

> " stages " of further growth..

>

> and furthermore even greater reckonings yet advanced.

>

> a Wonder awaits " us " and is the Promise that ever is fulfilled.

>

> be patient and lose not Faith.

>

> for the Inevitability and Peace is Here NOW already.

>

> Blessings.

>

> .b b.b.

>

 

 

 

It's just a darn shame that what you are trying to articulate will never be

corralled with words.

 

But you are right sir when you say that it the only endeavor in the conceptual

dream that comes close to being fulfilling.

 

Hats off........(if I could only find my head).

 

:)

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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