Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptua l self to discover His own deeper meaning? (bumper sticker) toombaru There is no such God. .... there is nothing but God in/within an appearent world and perception of a s self .... s selfs are fighting all around....with/against such God .... until they give up .... because such mentionned fights are of complete non-sense....and based on duality Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptua l self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > (bumper sticker) > > toombaru > > > > There is no such God. > > ... > > there is nothing but God in/within an appearent world and perception of a s self > > ... > > s selfs are fighting all around....with/against such God > > ... > > until they give up > > ... > > because such mentionned fights are of complete non-sense....and based on duality > > > Marc > Can you think of anything that is not based on duality? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptual self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > (bumper sticker) > > > > > toombaru > ....the one who still needs a vehicle to go from one place to another... (sorry, I'm repeating myself) ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptual self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > > > (bumper sticker) > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ...the one who still needs a vehicle to go from one place to another... > > (sorry, I'm repeating myself) > > ~A > what kind of ape would put this search before swinging, eating and loving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptua l self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > (bumper sticker) > > toombaru > > > > There is no such God. > > ... > > there is nothing but God in/within an appearent world and perception of a s self > > ... > > s selfs are fighting all around....with/against such God > > ... > > until they give up > > ... > > because such mentionned fights are of complete non-sense....and based on duality > > > Marc this is the way it is: there are no " kinds of God " . the Singularity is without qualifying or numbered " kinds " . it's just those who need to believe that the concept " God " .. is referring to some quaint and mushy righteous NobaDaddy... who have need of posing this type of question. it's non sequitur and childish. not everyone is so hung up on this nonsense. i see that you aren't anyway. good stuff Mark. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptual self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > (bumper sticker) > > > > > toombaru To exist is to be limited because order is limitation, ergo, any God who exist is a limited God. Only chaos is unlimited, and has no meaning. In fact, Chaos means no meaning at all. From chaos we emerge craving to be Gods, and to bring order to chaos and to rule over change. Pete > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " methusalum " <methusalum wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptual self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > > > > > (bumper sticker) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > ...the one who still needs a vehicle to go from one place to another... > > > > (sorry, I'm repeating myself) > > > > ~A > > > > > what kind of ape would put this search before swinging, eating and loving? > I don't know, maybe YOU can tell me... Eh? ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " methusalum " <methusalum@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kinda God would need a highly evolved simian with an imaginary-conceptual self to discover His own deeper meaning? > > > > > > > > (bumper sticker) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...the one who still needs a vehicle to go from one place to another... > > > > > > (sorry, I'm repeating myself) > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > what kind of ape would put this search before swinging, eating and loving? > > > > > I don't know, maybe YOU can tell me... > > Eh? > > ~A > Chimps become fascinated with their image in a mirror. Humans do the same thing with their image in the mind. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 right, thoughts are all based on duality Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > right, thoughts are all based on duality > > > Marc > One and two makes three ... Tomorrow will come my sister visiting me ... Obama is president ... etc etc etc thoughts are all based on duality ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 - Marc Nisargadatta Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:57 PM Re: What Kinda God right, thoughts are all based on duality Marc No. Not all. Thoughts may be a movement based on divesity - not nescessarily duality. In fact there is no duality in any way. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Marc > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:57 PM > Re: What Kinda God > > > > > > right, thoughts are all based on duality > > Marc > > No. Not all. Thoughts may be a movement based on divesity - not nescessarily > duality. In fact there is no duality in any way. > -geo- > There is no no. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 right, thoughts are all based on duality > > > Marc > One and two makes three ... Tomorrow will come my sister visiting me ... Obama is president ... etc etc etc thoughts are all based on duality ? Werner the ground of thoughts are of imaginary seperations between this " Werner " and " Obama " and " sister " and " one and two makes three " etc etc nobody ever visited anybody for real nobody ever has been the president of anybody etc etc .... it's all within this your (restless) mind happening such mind Is the appearent world on which " Werner " is acting/reacting on .... thoughts let " Werner " do this & that.....etc etc because of " himself " ....thinking, acting, reacting,...on himself etc etc .... until " Werner " start to think about the nature of this funny and restless " Werner " .... then there will be less density of thoughts...and more space for the free " Werner " ....He ever has been for real, and will ever be .... so far...few thoughts about nothing realy....to nobody.... .... there is no " Werner " .... there is only the Self, we Are .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 right, thoughts are all based on duality Marc No. Not all. Thoughts may be a movement based on divesity - not nescessarily duality. In fact there is no duality in any way. -geo- it's impossible to communicate ...in words, ....by concepts and theories......to " marc " .... " werner " .... " geo " .....if there were no duality ..... and/but yes, " geo " Is always what he percieve....there is never any duality between " geo " and " geo " .... if you presume that there is " no duality in any way " .... then it's necessary to tell also that there is " no non-duality " in any way... impossible to talk about non-duality without duality .... the result and cause of duality....is of restless mind....trapped again and again and again by " oneself " ....and so....trapped by " others " too ..... the result and cause of non-duality...is of peaceful mind.....don't seeing any difference between deep of oneself and others means, peace with/by oneself & others....trees, fishes, apples, clouds and cows .... some talk about silence then ..... Marc Ps: such silence is the space where one can " meet " and live non-duality indeed, in busy worlds.....non-duality is as rare as talking fishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Marc > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:57 PM > > Re: What Kinda God > > > > > > > > > > > > right, thoughts are all based on duality > > > > Marc > > > > No. Not all. Thoughts may be a movement based on divesity - not nescessarily > > duality. In fact there is no duality in any way. > > -geo- > > > > > There is no no. > > > > toombaru Yes, but to say so is a no-no ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > right, thoughts are all based on duality > > > > > > Marc > > > > One and two makes three ... > > Tomorrow will come my sister visiting me ... > > Obama is president ... > > etc etc etc > > thoughts are all based on duality ? > > Werner > > > the ground of thoughts are of imaginary seperations between this " Werner " and " Obama " and " sister " and " one and two makes three " etc etc > > nobody ever visited anybody for real > > nobody ever has been the president of anybody > > etc > > etc > > ... > > it's all within this your (restless) mind happening > > such mind Is the appearent world on which " Werner " is acting/reacting on > > ... > > thoughts let " Werner " do this & that.....etc etc > > because of " himself " ....thinking, acting, reacting,...on himself etc etc > > ... > > until " Werner " start to think about the nature of this funny and restless " Werner " > > ... > > then there will be less density of thoughts...and more space for the free " Werner " ....He ever has been for real, and will ever be > > ... > > so far...few thoughts about nothing realy....to nobody.... > > ... > > there is no " Werner " > > ... > > there is only the Self, we Are > > ... > > > Marc > Marc, You can maintain a billion times that there is no Marc or Werner but nevertheless both are exchanging and communicating here with each other. To state that there is only the Self is just an idea sitting in your head. Try it: Stop thinking and you will see the Self is gone Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 You can maintain a billion times that there is no Marc or Werner but nevertheless both are exchanging and communicating here with each other. To state that there is only the Self is just an idea sitting in your head. Try it: Stop thinking and you will see the Self is gone Werner You are taking the s self....for the S Self. So there is some misunderstanding going on. .... " Werner " , " Marc " .... " s self " .....etc....etc.... .... all are just like waves on the ocean... .... coming and going. .... just like " Werner " is gone....during deep sleep .... So is also " Werner " ....means this his s self....gone....when thoughts are gone .... Marc Ps: the Self is never gone.... even if the coward " Werner " try hard to get detached from it .... the waves also appear ....tending to detach from the ocean... .... but thats of illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 You can maintain a billion times that there is no Marc or Werner but nevertheless both are exchanging and communicating here with each other. > > To state that there is only the Self is just an idea sitting in your head. Try it: Stop thinking and you will see the Self is gone > > Werner > > > You are taking the s self....for the S Self. > > So there is some misunderstanding going on. > > ... > > " Werner " , " Marc " .... " s self " .....etc. ...etc... . > > ... > > all are just like waves on the ocean... > > ... > > coming and going. > > ... > > just like " Werner " is gone....during deep sleep > > ... > > So is also " Werner " .... means this his s self....gone. ...when thoughts are gone > > ... > > > Marc > > > Ps: the Self is never gone.... > > even if the coward " Werner " try hard to get detached from it He's arrogant too, very arrogant. Probably why he sees that quality everywhere, because the Self really sees itself only. the world is made of many different " qualities " ..... the world Is of such different qualities.... ..... such world give many ego's the right and the space of/to have an individual viewpoint on different qualities.... .... each of such egos create all this other egos....and viewpoints....and qualitites.....without knowing about .... the reason they are even proud of it .... But good that there is no world .... except for fighting/crying/shouting/thinking little babies....means egos .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:43 PM > Re: What Kinda God > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Marc > > Nisargadatta > > Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:57 PM > > Re: What Kinda God > > > > > > > > > > > > right, thoughts are all based on duality > > > > Marc > > > > No. Not all. Thoughts may be a movement based on divesity - not > > nescessarily > > duality. In fact there is no duality in any way. > > -geo- > > > > There is no no. > > toombaru > > What about no no? > -geo- no(h).. is a major form of classical japanese musical drama.. that has been performed since the 14th century. now both of you eat your bowls of rice.. then wash your round vessels. this is end of story. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 - toombaru Nisargadatta Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:43 PM Re: What Kinda God Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Marc > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:57 PM > Re: What Kinda God > > > > > > right, thoughts are all based on duality > > Marc > > No. Not all. Thoughts may be a movement based on divesity - not > nescessarily > duality. In fact there is no duality in any way. > -geo- > There is no no. toombaru What about no no? -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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