Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. Fine. > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > > " depends on how " you " look at " it " " ????????????????????????????? > > it doesn't get more dual than that. > > Nizzy was talking through his nose. > > and to think some kids think that's wise snot! > > s'not! > > sheesh! > > .b b.b. > Did you got tired after reading that first line... " wise snot " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. > > > > > Fine. > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute. even one connotation is one too many. not two. if needed...repeat this again and again. when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms.. then that which is other than " absolute " .. othere than " imovable " .. are at once brought into consideration. thus it is that Truth is lost immediately. don't try and sound enlightened. " you " most certainly are not. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. > > > > > Fine. > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > " depends on how " you " look at " it " " ????????????????????????????? > > it doesn't get more dual than that. > > Nizzy was talking through his nose. > > and to think some kids think that's wise snot! > > s'not! > > sheesh! > > .b b.b. > > Very shallow this analysis of yours. " Depends on how you look at it " does > not mean " sit and look at the absolute in this or that way " , but an > idiomatic expression that implies in the possibility of understanding > something in several different manners. C'mon.....you can do better then > that. > -geo- this is not an analysis. your shallowness makes it seem as though it is. you cannot do better than that however. i understand. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. > > > > Fine. > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. > > > > Fine. > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal level > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. " depends on how " you " look at " it " " ????????????????????????????? it doesn't get more dual than that. Nizzy was talking through his nose. and to think some kids think that's wise snot! s'not! sheesh! ..b b.b. Very shallow this analysis of yours. " Depends on how you look at it " does not mean " sit and look at the absolute in this or that way " , but an idiomatic expression that implies in the possibility of understanding something in several different manners. C'mon.....you can do better then that. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Friday, December 04, 2009 4:17 PM Re: The Situation with Consciosness Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > a concept? > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of them. > > Fine. > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > absolute and existence mean the same, your > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. -tim- Like sub-atomic particles can not get soaking wet, dripping and cold, by the very same water they " create " . -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM > Re: The Situation with Consciosness > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of > > > > > > them. > > > > > > Fine. > > > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal > > > level > > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most > > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute. > > even one connotation is one too many. > > not two. > > if needed...repeat this again and again. > > when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms.. > > then that which is other than " absolute " .. > > othere than " imovable " .. > > are at once brought into consideration. > > thus it is that Truth is lost immediately. > > don't try and sound enlightened. > > " you " most certainly are not. > > .b b.b. > > AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was > -geo- thinking is what your problem is. you identify with it. that's the first and foremost error. and whatever it is that is thought.. thought is without Truth. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 - BobN Nisargadatta Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM Re: The Situation with Consciosness Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of > > > > > them. > > > > > Fine. > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal > > level > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute. even one connotation is one too many. not two. if needed...repeat this again and again. when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms.. then that which is other than " absolute " .. othere than " imovable " .. are at once brought into consideration. thus it is that Truth is lost immediately. don't try and sound enlightened. " you " most certainly are not. ..b b.b. AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > Fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal > > > > level > > > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > > > > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most > > > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute. > > > > even one connotation is one too many. > > > > not two. > > > > if needed...repeat this again and again. > > > > when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms.. > > > > then that which is other than " absolute " .. > > > > othere than " imovable " .. > > > > are at once brought into consideration. > > > > thus it is that Truth is lost immediately. > > > > don't try and sound enlightened. > > > > " you " most certainly are not. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was > > -geo- > > > thinking is what your problem is. > > you identify with it. > > that's the first and foremost error. > > and whatever it is that is thought.. > > thought is without Truth. > > .b b.b. > True, at the moment of thought the thinker IS the thought, however, there would be no *I* or *you* without it. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > BobN > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, December 04, 2009 5:40 PM > > > Re: The Situation with Consciosness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: The absolute exist in language. It's the wording of a concept. > > > > > > > > Do you perceive any other absolute that is not a sensation, or > > > > > > > > a concept? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> Existence is just in language....cool. > > > > > > > > The perceiver of an absolute...and the absolute, makes two of > > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > Fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: I didn't mention existence. If you think > > > > > > > absolute and existence mean the same, your > > > > > > > problem with semantics is worse than I thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute means essentially " ab-solute " , not in solution, not watered > > > > > > down, " pure " -- without a second, if ya will. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As this is ostensibly Nis's list, let's let him have his input ;-): > > > > > > > > > > Questioner: Shapes and names are all of one and the same God? > > > > > > > > > > Maharaj: Again, it all depends on how you look at it. On the verbal > > > > > level > > > > > everything is relative. Absolutes should be experienced, not discussed. > > > > > > > > geo> The term " I " has several connotations, including one - the most > > > > difficult and most obvious - that is immovable and absolute. > > > > > > even one connotation is one too many. > > > > > > not two. > > > > > > if needed...repeat this again and again. > > > > > > when " absolute " and " imovable " are imployed as qualifying terms.. > > > > > > then that which is other than " absolute " .. > > > > > > othere than " imovable " .. > > > > > > are at once brought into consideration. > > > > > > thus it is that Truth is lost immediately. > > > > > > don't try and sound enlightened. > > > > > > " you " most certainly are not. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhh........I thought I was > > > -geo- > > > > > > thinking is what your problem is. > > > > you identify with it. > > > > that's the first and foremost error. > > > > and whatever it is that is thought.. > > > > thought is without Truth. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > True, at the moment of thought the thinker IS the thought, > however, there would be no *I* or *you* without it. > > ~A it's best not to think about it. than IT can just chill. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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