Hoping someone can help me understand a question I have

December 31, 2009

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > NO void and NO apparition.

> > -lene-

> >

> > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is IS-ING

as THIS.

> > -geo-

>

> It is no-thinging -- brilliant, shining, empty, nothing.

>

> - D -

Dreary Dabbonising.

it's " thinging: alright.

voice ain't bad but you sound like you have a lisp dab.

maybe you could swish it away.

LOL!

..b b.b.

December 31, 2009

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > > NO void and NO apparition.

> > > -lene-

> > >

> > > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is

IS-ING as THIS.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Very subtle non material this

> >

> > How can void be void OF thing?

> >

> > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> >

> > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> >

> > Point = pointless

> >

> > Form = void

> >

> > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> >

> > Form (any thing) IS void.

> >

> > I wish you a voidful noday

> >

> > -Lene

>

> Yes, exactly so.

>

> Form is void, void is form.

>

> Thus, there is no divisible form.

>

> And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

distinctions.

>

> Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

>

> - Dan -

sure they do.

in your world dan..pigs fly.

LOL!

..b b.b.

December 31, 2009

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:15 PM

Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a question

I have

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:33 PM

> Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> question

> I have

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Marc

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:19 AM

> > Re: Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> > question I have

> >

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:37 AM

> > Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> > question

> > I have

> >

> > Nisargadatta, " geo " <inandor@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > " The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. "

> > > -Albert Einstein-

> >

> > real creativity is not depending quoting others regarding creativity.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Naaah.... its not just that. What I see above is only, solely,

> > exclusively,

> > nothing else then reactivity - the opposite of creativity.

> > -geo-

> >

> > spiritual baby geo....

> >

> > so please make prove of this your mentionned " opposite of creativity " ...

> >

> > lol

> >

> > Marc

> >

> > So I should make prove of something that is the opposite of creativity.

> >

> > wait...

> >

> > I am trying...

> >

> > trying...

> >

> > trying...

> >

> > I am afraid I cant do it right now as unfortunately the " atmosphere " is

> > becoming more and more creative right now.

> >

> > Maybe sometime later.... when I am less inspired.

> > -geo-

>

> if that's what you call creative inspiration..

>

> it's no goddamn wonder you have no idea..

>

> what either creativity or inspiration IS.

>

> quit trying.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Too fast honey.....too fast; reacting as always.

> I was asked to provide something that is the opposite of creativity....

> pumpy darling.

> -geo-

no you weren't asked to provide something that was the opposite..

of creativity.

you were asked to prove it.

you really have a comprehension problem kid.

well..

if providing something that lacked creativity and inspiration..

was what you mistakenly understood..

and then you tried to provide that something as an example..

as opposed to doing a thorough proof of the idea ..

you succeeded both times.

but hell geoparado..

you provide uncreative and uninspired somethings all the time.

maybe that in itself is a sort of proof.

but it's not a rigorous development of the idea at all.

it's just the same old same old that we get from you all the time.

..b b.b.

p.s.

now i order you to react..

you MUST obey.

and you know it.

[.bx3]

A sense of pity crossed my being as you seem to be begging inside, almost

supplicating for me to stop writing otherwise you MUST react....I almost did

not answer...but....sorry, you will have to do it. Did you need all those

words to prove your ignorance, honey-pie? He asked me to provide it

.......and as an answer I said I could not do it, and did not.....pumpkin.

Just give me more orders and I will obey them immediately.

-geo-

December 31, 2009

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Thursday, December 31, 2009 4:11 PM

Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a question

I have

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:15 PM

> Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> question

> I have

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:33 PM

> > Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> > question

> > I have

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Marc

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:19 AM

> > > Re: Re: Hoping someone can help me understand

> > > a

> > > question I have

> > >

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:37 AM

> > > Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> > > question

> > > I have

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta, " geo " <inandor@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > " The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. "

> > > > -Albert Einstein-

> > >

> > > real creativity is not depending quoting others regarding creativity.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Naaah.... its not just that. What I see above is only, solely,

> > > exclusively,

> > > nothing else then reactivity - the opposite of creativity.

> > > -geo-

> > >

> > > spiritual baby geo....

> > >

> > > so please make prove of this your mentionned " opposite of

> > > creativity " ...

> > >

> > > lol

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> > > So I should make prove of something that is the opposite of

> > > creativity.

> > >

> > > wait...

> > >

> > > I am trying...

> > >

> > > trying...

> > >

> > > trying...

> > >

> > > I am afraid I cant do it right now as unfortunately the " atmosphere "

> > > is

> > > becoming more and more creative right now.

> > >

> > > Maybe sometime later.... when I am less inspired.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > if that's what you call creative inspiration..

> >

> > it's no goddamn wonder you have no idea..

> >

> > what either creativity or inspiration IS.

> >

> > quit trying.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Too fast honey.....too fast; reacting as always.

> > I was asked to provide something that is the opposite of creativity....

> > pumpy darling.

> > -geo-

>

> no you weren't asked to provide something that was the opposite..

>

> of creativity.

>

> you were asked to prove it.

>

> you really have a comprehension problem kid.

>

> well..

>

> if providing something that lacked creativity and inspiration..

>

> was what you mistakenly understood..

>

> and then you tried to provide that something as an example..

>

> as opposed to doing a thorough proof of the idea ..

>

> you succeeded both times.

>

> but hell geoparado..

>

> you provide uncreative and uninspired somethings all the time.

>

> maybe that in itself is a sort of proof.

>

> but it's not a rigorous development of the idea at all.

>

> it's just the same old same old that we get from you all the time.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> p.s.

>

> now i order you to react..

>

> you MUST obey.

>

> and you know it.

>

> [.bx3]

>

> A sense of pity crossed my being as you seem to be begging inside, almost

> supplicating for me to stop writing otherwise you MUST react....I almost

> did

> not answer...but....sorry, you will have to do it. Did you need all those

> words to prove your ignorance, honey-pie? He asked me to provide it

> ......and as an answer I said I could not do it, and did not.....pumpkin.

> Just give me more orders and I will obey them immediately.

> -geo-

i know that you will obey me.

you have no choice.

this has been proven time and time again.

and now you're beginning to lean a bit in the queer side too.

quick now Son of Brazil..

hop to it...

get back to me with your dumb attempts at comebacks.

you seem hurt and upset.

that's funny!

LOL!

..b b.b.

Sorry...I cant obey you this time.... can't answer now. I'll ask someone

else to entertain you for a while.... just hold on a sec...

-geo-

January 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > > NO void and NO apparition.

> > > -lene-

> > >

> > > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is

IS-ING as THIS.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Very subtle non material this

> >

> > How can void be void OF thing?

> >

> > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> >

> > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> >

> > Point = pointless

> >

> > Form = void

> >

> > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> >

> > Form (any thing) IS void.

> >

> > I wish you a voidful noday

> >

> > -Lene

>

> Yes, exactly so.

>

> Form is void, void is form.

>

> Thus, there is no divisible form.

>

> And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

distinctions.

>

> Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

>

> - Dan -

Yes, and talking of history: is all there is to worry about.

Imagine that: worrying about what is bygones and only exists

as history, as bygones - and worrying about what will happen

next - on this ground which is no ground - which is not even

there - and which never happened - outside the (hi)story.

It never ceases to amaze me that I live in a past which does

not exist and for a future that equally does not exist.

Last night for example I was not my usual spontaneous me and

this morn there was regretting this. How silly as if I could

go back and change the fact.

Luckily JK's spirit turned up and reminded me of this:

What is is - not what should be.

What was was - not what should have been.

Ah yes, that is right - thanks, JK.

And there was/is " presence " without anything being present -

just appearences, occurances - new - new - new - new - new -

happy new year!

-Lene

January 1, 2010

-

Lene

Nisargadatta

Friday, January 01, 2010 8:31 AM

Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a question

I have

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > > NO void and NO apparition.

> > > -lene-

> > >

> > > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is

> > > IS-ING as THIS.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Very subtle non material this

> >

> > How can void be void OF thing?

> >

> > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> >

> > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> >

> > Point = pointless

> >

> > Form = void

> >

> > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> >

> > Form (any thing) IS void.

> >

> > I wish you a voidful noday

> >

> > -Lene

>

> Yes, exactly so.

>

> Form is void, void is form.

>

> Thus, there is no divisible form.

>

> And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

> distinctions.

>

> Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

>

> - Dan -

Yes, and talking of history: is all there is to worry about.

Imagine that: worrying about what is bygones and only exists

as history, as bygones - and worrying about what will happen

next - on this ground which is no ground - which is not even

there - and which never happened - outside the (hi)story.

It never ceases to amaze me that I live in a past which does

not exist and for a future that equally does not exist.

Last night for example I was not my usual spontaneous me and

this morn there was regretting this. How silly as if I could

go back and change the fact.

Luckily JK's spirit turned up and reminded me of this:

What is is - not what should be.

What was was - not what should have been.

Ah yes, that is right - thanks, JK.

And there was/is " presence " without anything being present -

just appearences, occurances - new - new - new - new - new -

happy new year!

-Lene

Yea...thats it.

-geo-

January 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Lene

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, January 01, 2010 8:31 AM

> Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a question

> I have

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > > > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > > > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > > > NO void and NO apparition.

> > > > -lene-

> > > >

> > > > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is

> > > > IS-ING as THIS.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Very subtle non material this

> > >

> > > How can void be void OF thing?

> > >

> > > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> > >

> > > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> > >

> > > Point = pointless

> > >

> > > Form = void

> > >

> > > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> > >

> > > Form (any thing) IS void.

> > >

> > > I wish you a voidful noday

> > >

> > > -Lene

> >

> > Yes, exactly so.

> >

> > Form is void, void is form.

> >

> > Thus, there is no divisible form.

> >

> > And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

> > distinctions.

> >

> > Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

> >

> > - Dan -

>

> Yes, and talking of history: is all there is to worry about.

> Imagine that: worrying about what is bygones and only exists

> as history, as bygones - and worrying about what will happen

> next - on this ground which is no ground - which is not even

> there - and which never happened - outside the (hi)story.

>

> It never ceases to amaze me that I live in a past which does

> not exist and for a future that equally does not exist.

>

> Last night for example I was not my usual spontaneous me and

> this morn there was regretting this. How silly as if I could

> go back and change the fact.

>

> Luckily JK's spirit turned up and reminded me of this:

>

> What is is - not what should be.

>

> What was was - not what should have been.

>

> Ah yes, that is right - thanks, JK.

>

> And there was/is " presence " without anything being present -

> just appearences, occurances - new - new - new - new - new -

> happy new year!

>

> -Lene

>

> Yea...thats it.

> -geo-

riiiiiiight!

like you would know.

that's the first and best joke of the New Year.

i guess neurotic is the new junior set cool.

LOL!

..b b.b.

January 1, 2010

-

geo

Nisargadatta

Friday, January 01, 2010 10:06 AM

Re: Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

question I have

-

Lene

Nisargadatta

Friday, January 01, 2010 8:31 AM

Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a question

I have

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > > NO void and NO apparition.

> > > -lene-

> > >

> > > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is

> > > IS-ING as THIS.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > Very subtle non material this

> >

> > How can void be void OF thing?

> >

> > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> >

> > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> >

> > Point = pointless

> >

> > Form = void

> >

> > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> >

> > Form (any thing) IS void.

> >

> > I wish you a voidful noday

> >

> > -Lene

>

> Yes, exactly so.

>

> Form is void, void is form.

>

> Thus, there is no divisible form.

>

> And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

> distinctions.

>

> Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

>

> - Dan -

Yes, and talking of history: is all there is to worry about.

Imagine that: worrying about what is bygones and only exists

as history, as bygones - and worrying about what will happen

next - on this ground which is no ground - which is not even

there - and which never happened - outside the (hi)story.

It never ceases to amaze me that I live in a past which does

not exist and for a future that equally does not exist.

Last night for example I was not my usual spontaneous me and

this morn there was regretting this. How silly as if I could

go back and change the fact.

Luckily JK's spirit turned up and reminded me of this:

What is is - not what should be.

What was was - not what should have been.

Ah yes, that is right - thanks, JK.

And there was/is " presence " without anything being present -

just appearences, occurances - new - new - new - new - new -

happy new year!

-Lene

Yea...thats it.

-geo-

But it seems you said somewhere else that there is not a foundation to the

ever changing newness, if I understood you correctly. Now, I am not

suggesting that because krishnamurti says otherwise you should change your

mind, no. But sometimes one may get a different perspective. Well K in his

dialogues with Bohm in " ending of time " , then in another set of dialogues I

don't remember well where, and with Bohm and Sheinberg in a set called

something like " transformation of man " talks about the ground of being at

length. But independent of anything else if you ask the ever-changing

wholeness that you are whether there is a ground to this all.... and

eventually try to understand its nature..... it may unfold. The

ever-changing exists because the unchanging IS.

-geo-

January 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> geo

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, January 01, 2010 10:06 AM

> Re: Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a

> question I have

>

> -

> Lene

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, January 01, 2010 8:31 AM

> Re: Hoping someone can help me understand a question

> I have

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ...but where this spirit is supposed to be

> > > > there is just - void. It is not void OF something, it is just

> > > > and simply VOID and the void is the apparition. So - there is

> > > > NO void and NO apparition.

> > > > -lene-

> > > >

> > > > It is a void of things...of any-things. Nonetheless it IS...and it is

> > > > IS-ING as THIS.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > Very subtle non material this

> > >

> > > How can void be void OF thing?

> > >

> > > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> > >

> > > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> > >

> > > Point = pointless

> > >

> > > Form = void

> > >

> > > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> > >

> > > Form (any thing) IS void.

> > >

> > > I wish you a voidful noday

> > >

> > > -Lene

> >

> > Yes, exactly so.

> >

> > Form is void, void is form.

> >

> > Thus, there is no divisible form.

> >

> > And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

> > distinctions.

> >

> > Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

> >

> > - Dan -

>

> Yes, and talking of history: is all there is to worry about.

> Imagine that: worrying about what is bygones and only exists

> as history, as bygones - and worrying about what will happen

> next - on this ground which is no ground - which is not even

> there - and which never happened - outside the (hi)story.

>

> It never ceases to amaze me that I live in a past which does

> not exist and for a future that equally does not exist.

>

> Last night for example I was not my usual spontaneous me and

> this morn there was regretting this. How silly as if I could

> go back and change the fact.

>

> Luckily JK's spirit turned up and reminded me of this:

>

> What is is - not what should be.

>

> What was was - not what should have been.

>

> Ah yes, that is right - thanks, JK.

>

> And there was/is " presence " without anything being present -

> just appearences, occurances - new - new - new - new - new -

> happy new year!

>

> -Lene

>

> Yea...thats it.

> -geo-

>

> But it seems you said somewhere else that there is not a foundation to the

> ever changing newness, if I understood you correctly. Now, I am not

> suggesting that because krishnamurti says otherwise you should change your

> mind, no. But sometimes one may get a different perspective. Well K in his

> dialogues with Bohm in " ending of time " , then in another set of dialogues I

> don't remember well where, and with Bohm and Sheinberg in a set called

> something like " transformation of man " talks about the ground of being at

> length. But independent of anything else if you ask the ever-changing

> wholeness that you are whether there is a ground to this all.... and

> eventually try to understand its nature..... it may unfold. The

> ever-changing exists because the unchanging IS.

> -geo-

quote quote quote..

refer refer refer..

oooooooooohhhh so impressive!(hee hee!).

so you've picked up a few paperbacks at the drugstore..

now you think letting people know..

that you sort of tried (without much success) to read them..

and that by name dropping you can sound learned..

and maybe impress some people (those who don't laugh at you).

wellllllllll...

let me tell impress upon you geoparadooooo..

it's not in books..

it's not in imitative bullshit..

it's not in the cards you are attempting to play..

that " IT " IS... or ever will be found.

you're looking for " THAT " in all the wrong places.

" IT IS " that Placeless Place you know not.

the very little knowledge you may have (i'm being kind here)..

may movea few of the local children..

but i think they too may laugh behind your back.

as you've said a number of times in the past few days..

you try and try and try..

what a waste of what little energy you do have.

when you stop " trying " so hard (or even so easy)..

" IT IS " all about....within and without.

especially without you and your ridiculous and phony bullshit.

ultimately and finally and from the beginning as always..

" IT IS " inescapable.

by trying so hard you hide (yourself) from it.

trust here in the baba..

you may hide " IT " from yourself..

but " IT " does not hide from anyone.

and when you finally stop the trying and the bullshitting..

All will be Clear as Day..clearer than your " self " or your " I AM " .

till that Day..

give it a rest.

you're only embarrassing yourself..and you don't even know it.

:-)

..b b.b.

p.s.

yes it's a lot of words..

and yes i know when i command you to jump up and defend yourself..

you will!

baba now so commands you!

c'mon Son of Brazil..

show us that bogus " no-self " you claim..

buried beneath your self-conscious pride and prejudice.

hell even be a little sarcastic while your at it.

your ego has just been bruised after all.

LOL!

[.bx3]

January 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote:

>

> She says tit-bit is the correct word - you know - like in

> yammy-yammy, nam-nam, and so on She also says you have

> a dirty mind

What? And she doesn't???

> Dear, dear, someone just fired a gunshot - it is not safe

> out there tonite - happy new year!

No, it sure isn't. And happy, happy to you, too.

> I wonder what an old year is, hm.

Good point.

I suppose an old year is ready to die, and a new year thinks it is getting to

start.

- Dan

January 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote:

> > > Very subtle non material this

> > >

> > > How can void be void OF thing?

> > >

> > > Imagine a point. Imagine the point is all there is.

> > > One single point, one single dot, spot, plot.

> > >

> > > See that a point - a one single point - is NOTHING.

> > >

> > > Point = pointless

> > >

> > > Form = void

> > >

> > > Void is not void OF form - void IS form

> > >

> > > Form (any thing) IS void.

> > >

> > > I wish you a voidful noday

> > >

> > > -Lene

> >

> > Yes, exactly so.

> >

> > Form is void, void is form.

> >

> > Thus, there is no divisible form.

> >

> > And yet, there are infinite textures being perceived, and all kinds of

distinctions.

> >

> > Spaces, times, beings, histories, experiences - this nothing.

> >

> > - Dan -

>

> Yes, and talking of history: is all there is to worry about.

> Imagine that: worrying about what is bygones and only exists

> as history, as bygones - and worrying about what will happen

> next - on this ground which is no ground - which is not even

> there - and which never happened - outside the (hi)story.

>

> It never ceases to amaze me that I live in a past which does

> not exist and for a future that equally does not exist.

>

> Last night for example I was not my usual spontaneous me and

> this morn there was regretting this. How silly as if I could

> go back and change the fact.

>

> Luckily JK's spirit turned up and reminded me of this:

>

> What is is - not what should be.

>

> What was was - not what should have been.

>

> Ah yes, that is right - thanks, JK.

>

> And there was/is " presence " without anything being present -

> just appearences, occurances - new - new - new - new - new -

> happy new year!

>

> -Lene

Yes.

Illusion dissolves as never having been.

" New " and " old " are nowhere to be found.

This moment of perception: timeless time, anciently new, newly ancient ...

- D -

January 1, 2010