Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: OAStudyGroup , " scottkiloby " <scottkiloby wrote: > From Scott: > > ... you can start with the question, " What is not complete in my present experience? " When you find something that is incomplete, notice that it is an appearance. See that there is awareness that sees it. And then, when you go to really look for the boundary line between awareness and what is appearing as " incompleteness " (whether it is a thought, emotion, experience, etc), you see that the appearance has no independent existence from that which sees it. Stated another way, there is no way to experience " incompleteness " without awareness. > > In emphasizing thought, rather than recognizing awareness as the undivided space within which all thoughts inseparably come and go, we make boundary lines seem real. Boundary lines give the sense of incompleteness and separation. Boundary lines give the sense of a " separate me " that believes it has to do or not do something. When that separation is resolved, there is a tendency not to act from a self-centered perspective. But it does not come from morality, or from beating people down through emphasizing viewpoints, or being right about our thoughts about awareness, but rather from the recognition of the natural compassion and love already inherent in this inseparability. > > These are all just words until there is a direct recognition of awareness as the unchanging and unmoving ground. So the introduction to awareness is more critical, really, than any of our thoughts or beliefs about awareness or about how one should or shouldn't act. > > Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Imo/fwiw, Scott has put out some very decent writings on his website as well (kiloby.com). I particularly enjoyed his recent " Will I find meaning? " . Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: > > OAStudyGroup , " scottkiloby " <scottkiloby@> wrote: > > > From Scott: > > > > ... you can start with the question, " What is not complete in my present experience? " When you find something that is incomplete, notice that it is an appearance. See that there is awareness that sees it. And then, when you go to really look for the boundary line between awareness and what is appearing as " incompleteness " (whether it is a thought, emotion, experience, etc), you see that the appearance has no independent existence from that which sees it. Stated another way, there is no way to experience " incompleteness " without awareness. > > > > In emphasizing thought, rather than recognizing awareness as the undivided space within which all thoughts inseparably come and go, we make boundary lines seem real. Boundary lines give the sense of incompleteness and separation. Boundary lines give the sense of a " separate me " that believes it has to do or not do something. When that separation is resolved, there is a tendency not to act from a self-centered perspective. But it does not come from morality, or from beating people down through emphasizing viewpoints, or being right about our thoughts about awareness, but rather from the recognition of the natural compassion and love already inherent in this inseparability. > > > > These are all just words until there is a direct recognition of awareness as the unchanging and unmoving ground. So the introduction to awareness is more critical, really, than any of our thoughts or beliefs about awareness or about how one should or shouldn't act. > > > > Scott > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: there goes da judge! " worthwhile " ????? oh crap dabbo.. what's not worthwhile? do you think your time is that valuable. do you think it's " on target " to assume that others should agree.. with what you have adjudicated as: sufficiently valuable to justify the investment of time or interest? you place too much value on yourself dabbo... and not enough on " others " who you claim are imagined. what a waste of flesh housing that ridiculous ego. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: > > > > there goes da judge! > > " worthwhile " ????? > > oh crap dabbo.. > > what's not worthwhile? > > do you think your time is that valuable. > > do you think it's " on target " to assume that others should agree.. > > with what you have adjudicated as: > > sufficiently valuable to justify the investment of time or interest? > > you place too much value on yourself dabbo... > > and not enough on " others " who you claim are imagined. > > what a waste of flesh housing that ridiculous ego. > > .b b.b. > Dear Robert, Happy New Year to you and yours. May I remind you that those who look for answers are on the same road of awareness. Some are further along than others. I don't know about you, dearest... but sometimes I get lost, and something someone says at the right time and place, returns me to the awareness that I *seemed* to have *lost*. Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: > > > > > > > > there goes da judge! > > > > " worthwhile " ????? > > > > oh crap dabbo.. > > > > what's not worthwhile? > > > > do you think your time is that valuable. > > > > do you think it's " on target " to assume that others should agree.. > > > > with what you have adjudicated as: > > > > sufficiently valuable to justify the investment of time or interest? > > > > you place too much value on yourself dabbo... > > > > and not enough on " others " who you claim are imagined. > > > > what a waste of flesh housing that ridiculous ego. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Dear Robert, Happy New Year to you and yours. > > May I remind you that those who look for answers are on the same road > of awareness. > > Some are further along than others. > > I don't know about you, dearest... but sometimes I get lost, and something someone says at the right time and place, returns me to > the awareness that I *seemed* to have *lost*. > > Love, > Anna dear anna.. happy 2010 as reckoned by the Gregorian or " New Style Calendar " .. first proclaimed by Pope Gregory XIII in 1538.. as a reform of the outmoded Julian calendar... which was beginning to lose or add days (i'm not sure which)... to the lived life earth calander.. which was really starting to mess up.. sewing and reaping and all manner of thing. well then.. certainly you can remind me.. that those who look for answers.. are on the same " road of awareness " . but i hadn't forgotten that... or rather i had not remembered to forget it. the conjecture here is.. that both baba and the " road " are perpetually lost. i think that is the case with everyone. that is why whenever i'm confronted.. with a would-be know it all.. who believes he has not only found the Way (the road).. the Truth and the Life.. AND that he also found his " self " .. and wishes to proclaim as much to all various and sundry.. who they believe need to hear that bullshit.. i must defer to this reality: they speaketh utter bullshit. as our mutual friend (though he might deny it) toombaru has said.. in so many words that is.. there is no self to find and no one really looking. maybe..if i may be so bold as to add.. the self IS the looking and THAT is Futility In Action.. nary a thing is happening... nor is there a " soul " in need of looking. so it is that righteous preachers of any type.. are seemingly a type of thorn in my in my oh so sorry physical ass. scuza me. " i' " will henceforth for " your " sake try to be more holy. but..that " i " thing.. it's a bit of a tricky little monkey isn't it? and it's not sure here at all.. if " it " has any choice regarding " trying " . besides..if it's thought about somewhat.. the word 'trying " really equals.. NOT doing. that is.. baba can " try " and " try " for thousands of times and years.. to pump 2000 lbs. dead weight over his head (imaginary or not).. and all that " trying " and " trying " IS and will only result in.. NOT lifting that 2000 lbs. so..what's the use in " trying " ? therefore anna.. i'll just BE holy and forget the trying. maybe i should forget the stuff at the top too.. or at least remember to forget. well then.. that brings us back to the beginning.. and that has no end.. and.. OMG! i'm starting to sound like dabbo! but i won't try and judge that. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: > > > > > > > > > > > > there goes da judge! > > > > > > " worthwhile " ????? > > > > > > oh crap dabbo.. > > > > > > what's not worthwhile? > > > > > > do you think your time is that valuable. > > > > > > do you think it's " on target " to assume that others should agree.. > > > > > > with what you have adjudicated as: > > > > > > sufficiently valuable to justify the investment of time or interest? > > > > > > you place too much value on yourself dabbo... > > > > > > and not enough on " others " who you claim are imagined. > > > > > > what a waste of flesh housing that ridiculous ego. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Robert, Happy New Year to you and yours. > > > > May I remind you that those who look for answers are on the same road > > of awareness. > > > > Some are further along than others. > > > > I don't know about you, dearest... but sometimes I get lost, and something someone says at the right time and place, returns me to > > the awareness that I *seemed* to have *lost*. > > > > Love, > > Anna > > > dear anna.. > > happy 2010 as reckoned by the Gregorian or " New Style Calendar " .. > > first proclaimed by Pope Gregory XIII in 1538.. > > as a reform of the outmoded Julian calendar... > > which was beginning to lose or add days (i'm not sure which)... > > to the lived life earth calander.. > > which was really starting to mess up.. > > sewing and reaping and all manner of thing. > > well then.. > > certainly you can remind me.. > > that those who look for answers.. > > are on the same " road of awareness " . > > but i hadn't forgotten that... > > or rather i had not remembered to forget it. > > the conjecture here is.. > > that both baba and the " road " are perpetually lost. > > i think that is the case with everyone. > > that is why whenever i'm confronted.. > > with a would-be know it all.. > > who believes he has not only found the Way (the road).. > > the Truth and the Life.. > > AND that he also found his " self " .. > > and wishes to proclaim as much to all various and sundry.. > > who they believe need to hear that bullshit.. > > i must defer to this reality: > > they speaketh utter bullshit. > > as our mutual friend (though he might deny it) toombaru has said.. > > in so many words that is.. > > there is no self to find and no one really looking. > > maybe..if i may be so bold as to add.. > > the self IS the looking and THAT is Futility In Action.. > > nary a thing is happening... > > nor is there a " soul " in need of looking. > > so it is that righteous preachers of any type.. > > are seemingly a type of thorn in my in my oh so sorry physical ass. > > scuza me. > > " i' " will henceforth for " your " sake try to be more holy. > > but..that " i " thing.. > > it's a bit of a tricky little monkey isn't it? > > and it's not sure here at all.. > > if " it " has any choice regarding " trying " . > > besides..if it's thought about somewhat.. > > the word 'trying " really equals.. > > NOT doing. > > that is.. > > baba can " try " and " try " for thousands of times and years.. > > to pump 2000 lbs. dead weight over his head (imaginary or not).. > > and all that " trying " and " trying " IS and will only result in.. > > NOT lifting that 2000 lbs. > > so..what's the use in " trying " ? > > therefore anna.. > > i'll just BE holy and forget the trying. > > maybe i should forget the stuff at the top too.. > > or at least remember to forget. > > well then.. > > that brings us back to the beginning.. > > and that has no end.. > > and.. > > OMG! > > i'm starting to sound like dabbo! > > but i won't try and judge that. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > Wow ! Look how nicely Jackass-Bobo can behave when communicating with women. Listen to his sweet chirping sounds he makes when courting a women: " Tweet, tweet, tweet... " No wonder: Women aren't that dangerous as men. Yes, men are soooooooooooo damn dangerous, sniff, sniff ... Meeting a woman Jackass-Bobo dares to show his real nature: A frightened little birdy ... chirp, chirp, chirp ... ROFLMAO ! Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Scott wrote something very on-target on the OAStudyGroup list, that certainly is worth posting on the Nisargadatta list: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there goes da judge! > > > > > > > > " worthwhile " ????? > > > > > > > > oh crap dabbo.. > > > > > > > > what's not worthwhile? > > > > > > > > do you think your time is that valuable. > > > > > > > > do you think it's " on target " to assume that others should agree.. > > > > > > > > with what you have adjudicated as: > > > > > > > > sufficiently valuable to justify the investment of time or interest? > > > > > > > > you place too much value on yourself dabbo... > > > > > > > > and not enough on " others " who you claim are imagined. > > > > > > > > what a waste of flesh housing that ridiculous ego. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Robert, Happy New Year to you and yours. > > > > > > May I remind you that those who look for answers are on the same road > > > of awareness. > > > > > > Some are further along than others. > > > > > > I don't know about you, dearest... but sometimes I get lost, and something someone says at the right time and place, returns me to > > > the awareness that I *seemed* to have *lost*. > > > > > > Love, > > > Anna > > > > > > dear anna.. > > > > happy 2010 as reckoned by the Gregorian or " New Style Calendar " .. > > > > first proclaimed by Pope Gregory XIII in 1538.. > > > > as a reform of the outmoded Julian calendar... > > > > which was beginning to lose or add days (i'm not sure which)... > > > > to the lived life earth calander.. > > > > which was really starting to mess up.. > > > > sewing and reaping and all manner of thing. > > > > well then.. > > > > certainly you can remind me.. > > > > that those who look for answers.. > > > > are on the same " road of awareness " . > > > > but i hadn't forgotten that... > > > > or rather i had not remembered to forget it. > > > > the conjecture here is.. > > > > that both baba and the " road " are perpetually lost. > > > > i think that is the case with everyone. > > > > that is why whenever i'm confronted.. > > > > with a would-be know it all.. > > > > who believes he has not only found the Way (the road).. > > > > the Truth and the Life.. > > > > AND that he also found his " self " .. > > > > and wishes to proclaim as much to all various and sundry.. > > > > who they believe need to hear that bullshit.. > > > > i must defer to this reality: > > > > they speaketh utter bullshit. > > > > as our mutual friend (though he might deny it) toombaru has said.. > > > > in so many words that is.. > > > > there is no self to find and no one really looking. > > > > maybe..if i may be so bold as to add.. > > > > the self IS the looking and THAT is Futility In Action.. > > > > nary a thing is happening... > > > > nor is there a " soul " in need of looking. > > > > so it is that righteous preachers of any type.. > > > > are seemingly a type of thorn in my in my oh so sorry physical ass. > > > > scuza me. > > > > " i' " will henceforth for " your " sake try to be more holy. > > > > but..that " i " thing.. > > > > it's a bit of a tricky little monkey isn't it? > > > > and it's not sure here at all.. > > > > if " it " has any choice regarding " trying " . > > > > besides..if it's thought about somewhat.. > > > > the word 'trying " really equals.. > > > > NOT doing. > > > > that is.. > > > > baba can " try " and " try " for thousands of times and years.. > > > > to pump 2000 lbs. dead weight over his head (imaginary or not).. > > > > and all that " trying " and " trying " IS and will only result in.. > > > > NOT lifting that 2000 lbs. > > > > so..what's the use in " trying " ? > > > > therefore anna.. > > > > i'll just BE holy and forget the trying. > > > > maybe i should forget the stuff at the top too.. > > > > or at least remember to forget. > > > > well then.. > > > > that brings us back to the beginning.. > > > > and that has no end.. > > > > and.. > > > > OMG! > > > > i'm starting to sound like dabbo! > > > > but i won't try and judge that. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > >(wernie wiener the girlie-man): > Wow ! > > Look how nicely Jackass-Bobo can behave when communicating with women. (big bad .b b.b.): and you said you didn't read my posts! and this one wasn't even addressed to nor about you. LOL! of course i knew you were lying..as usual. you're ensnared and entrapped by your own wonderment.. baba's wisdom lures you despite your best efforts to avoid his words. you can't help yourself you poor sucker. >(wernie wiener the girlie-man): > Listen to his sweet chirping sounds he makes when courting a women: " Tweet, tweet, tweet... " (big bad .b b.b.): jealous aren't you wenerina? sorry fella.. cute as your hairdo is wernie poo.. you're just not my kind of girl. that nose..those warts.. you're just too ugly as a girl. and you aren't doing much better as a man. now don't whine! you need discipline dopey. >(wernie wiener the girlie-man): > No wonder: Women aren't that dangerous as men. Yes, men are soooooooooooo damn dangerous, sniff, sniff ... (big bad .b b.b.): ROFLMAO! it's you who say that i am wernerina. it's you who are the one too cowardly to admit.. that you look forward to and read baba's every word in every post. anyhoo poophead.. man or woman.. or rather the girlie-man that you are.. you sure as hell aren't dangerous at all. you're like some poor puppy whimpering in the pound.. you may deserve pity actually. but i'm not about to give you any. hell you'd just cry that you couldn't see it.. you know..your pitiable bad eyesight and all. LOL! >(wernie wiener the girlie-man): > Meeting a woman Jackass-Bobo dares to show his real nature: A frightened little birdy ... chirp, chirp, chirp ... > > ROFLMAO ! > > Werner (big bad .b b.b.): golly wernerina.. you really have your ass puckered in under that skirt today. well you know..a woman scorned and all that. you're living proof girlie. now go curl your locks sweetie. you're beginning to disgust me with that dirty grey hair. i will expect you to have it cleaned before your next profile pix. that's an order wernie-poo. we all know how you like to follow orders. ROFLMAO myself! :-) love ya.. (but not in the way you'd like you little filthy animal) ..b b.b. p.s. now after you clean your hair.. and after you stop crying and hiding in the corner.. when you get your pouting over with.. you can pretend that you haven't read this. i think that's funny as hell! i can just see it now: wernie skipping to skip over this..another of baba's posts. then openly weeping and whining like his big girlie side dictates. oh..and don't forget to tell us all how you don't read my posts. that probably gives you the false impression that you.. at least have some pride and self esteem left. even though that will just be another lie. and then wernerina you can stomp your little feet.. yell and scream and call me names.. and hope like hell that doesn't give you away again. you poor bastard! :-) [.bx3] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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