Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. -- From I Am That there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. because there is none .... peace isn't about any worlds .... there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " .... there isn't any world which could be different than yours Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > -- From I Am That of course the lung cancer that killed him wasn't so peaceful. it was rather rock like. and it worked diligently in opposition to his healthy cells.. and brought peace and silence of a different order. it turned Niz. from on to off. maybe it was playing discordant harmonies. whatever turns your crank i guess..forward or backfire. but i have a hard time reconciling that with: " In my world the seeds of suffering...are not sown.. and suffering does not grow. " it would really have seemed that in the end.. suffering was all that grew in his world. but i'm sure he also enjoyed every hand rolled bidi right to the last. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > -- From I Am That > > > of course the lung cancer that killed him wasn't so peaceful. > > it was rather rock like. > > and it worked diligently in opposition to his healthy cells.. Within the assumption of time, and memory, and belief, and attachment, and words, that's all true. So what? We all die physically. > and brought peace and silence of a different order. > > it turned Niz. from on to off. > > maybe it was playing discordant harmonies. > > whatever turns your crank i guess..forward or backfire. > > but i have a hard time reconciling that with: > > " In my world the seeds of suffering...are not sown.. > > and suffering does not grow. " > > it would really have seemed that in the end.. > > suffering was all that grew in his world. Pain isn't suffering, which is entirely mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > > > -- From I Am That > > > > > > of course the lung cancer that killed him wasn't so peaceful. > > > > it was rather rock like. > > > > and it worked diligently in opposition to his healthy cells.. > > Within the assumption of time, and memory, and belief, and attachment, and words, that's all true. So what? We all die physically. > > > and brought peace and silence of a different order. > > > > it turned Niz. from on to off. > > > > maybe it was playing discordant harmonies. > > > > whatever turns your crank i guess..forward or backfire. > > > > but i have a hard time reconciling that with: > > > > " In my world the seeds of suffering...are not sown.. > > > > and suffering does not grow. " > > > > it would really have seemed that in the end.. > > > > suffering was all that grew in his world. > > Pain isn't suffering, which is entirely mental. so is everything. it's ALL mental for Christ sake! so is the: joy and the harmony and the peace and all the rest of the bullshit... that Niz . was talking about. purely mental AND..it's all a judgment call. so what? so....what you're saying is purely bullshit as well. i mean..if it's all mental.. you might as well say: " In my world the seeds of non-suffering.. lack of desire and fearlessness are not sown.. and non-suffering does not grow. my world is free from similarities.. of mutually non-distinctive non-discrepancies.. cacopony pervades.. its violence is smooth-like.. this violence and noise are my body...or not " it's any way you want to make it because it's all mental. if it's not mental..it's not. and if that's the case it doesn't matter. and THAT'S what baba has been saying all along. give up your golden calves and half baked demi-gods. or continue to be a blind dupe. and then you can quote whoever you think is cool.. and pretend what they said was profound.. and in your mental world it will be so. but that's not the case for all time and all people. get a grip timmy. this may make you feel sad and mad.. but not to worry sonny boy.. it's all mental. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nice. Returning to Nisargadatta on the Nisargadatta list - makes sense to me. Would be worthwhile to have a list atmosphere respectful of what is said below - but that won't be likely here. Here, it's more like, let's all sew the seeds of our discontent with others ... LOL. Thanks, Dan Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > -- From I Am That > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > -- From I Am That > > > there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. > > because there is none > > ... > > peace isn't about any worlds > > ... > > there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " > > ... > > there isn't any world which could be different than yours > > > > Marc Marc - That there is nothing to know about the world of an imagined Nis., is the heart of what Nis. is saying in the words quoted above, imho. There is no imagining involved. The imagining is the suffering, is the me vs. you, is the seed of discontent and incompleteness. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nice. > > Returning to Nisargadatta on the Nisargadatta list - makes sense to me. > > Would be worthwhile to have a list atmosphere respectful of what is said below - but that won't be likely here. > > Here, it's more like, let's all sew the seeds of our discontent with others .... > > LOL. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > -- From I Am That > > > Yes, Dan stops his nondual gibberish and Bob stops his constant ridiculing and insulting other members. In different words, both guys leave their own eco system of their identity niche and float freely without identity. Wonderful ! Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > -- From I Am That > > > > > > there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. > > > > because there is none > > > > ... > > > > peace isn't about any worlds > > > > ... > > > > there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " > > > > ... > > > > there isn't any world which could be different than yours > > > > > > > > Marc > > Marc - > > That there is nothing to know about the world of an imagined Nis., is the heart of what Nis. is saying in the words quoted above, imho. > > There is no imagining involved. > > The imagining is the suffering, is the me vs. you, is the seed of discontent and incompleteness. > > - D - sure there is imagining involved. and it's your own imagining dabbo. you're imagining that anyone.. will believe that you have some " inside dope " .... on what what is " the heart " of what Niz wrote. and you imagine that if someone disagrees.. with your own poor and rather ill conceived " take " re same.. that it's sewing the seeds of discontent and incompleteness. LOL! trust in baba on this one dabbo.. it gives total contentment and complete satisfaction... to NOT listen to your pitiable lack of understanding. you think this is " me " vs " you " because you think you're right... and that if others disagree that they are wrong. that's that vicious self righteousness thing you drown in. and it's that which is so despicable about what you write dabbo. your " holy " ego is boundless and so vast that you can't see it.. it surrounds and controls you.. it ambushes you every unsuccessful attempt you make at piety. and yet you don't seem to suffer from this ego-imagining of yours. in fact.. you seem to bask in a glorified self satisfaction of " EGONESS " (haha!). you are delude by your own phoniness kiddo. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nice. > > > > Returning to Nisargadatta on the Nisargadatta list - makes sense to me. > > > > Would be worthwhile to have a list atmosphere respectful of what is said below - but that won't be likely here. > > > > Here, it's more like, let's all sew the seeds of our discontent with others .... > > > > LOL. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > > > -- From I Am That > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > Dan stops his nondual gibberish and Bob stops his constant ridiculing and insulting other members. > > In different words, both guys leave their own eco system of their identity niche and float freely without identity. > > Wonderful ! > > Werner but wernerina never stops whining poor girl. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 dabbo likes " respect " ... and to be respected. a church lady who creeps like a nun.. and says 'shame shame you naughty boys! " displays a personal discontent and demand for respect.. bespeaking a very self-righteous and insecure personality. if this is pointed out however.. it's cast off as sewing the seeds of discontent.. rather than helpful observation regarding a too self involved life. it's at this point that little befuddled church lady.. looks cross-eyed at her imagined accusers.. scrunches up her puckered lips and face.. points a crooked finger and says.. " could it be... .....SATAN! " . LOL! dabbo you're a real gas. you should have been on Saturday Night Live. you do a better Church Lady than Dana Carvey ever hoped to do. Nice! :-) ..b b.b. Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nice. > > Returning to Nisargadatta on the Nisargadatta list - makes sense to me. > > Would be worthwhile to have a list atmosphere respectful of what is said below - but that won't be likely here. > > Here, it's more like, let's all sew the seeds of our discontent with others .... > > LOL. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > -- From I Am That > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nice. > > Returning to Nisargadatta on the Nisargadatta list - makes sense to me. > > Would be worthwhile to have a list atmosphere respectful of what is said below - but that won't be likely here. > > Here, it's more like, let's all sew the seeds of our discontent with others .... > > LOL. Yep. Wouldn't count on it changing anytime soon. All noise/resistance, all the time. " You, you, you! Nyeh nyeh nyeh NYEH nyeh " . Same bunch of noisy 'dualists' harping on " you " and " me " , constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nice. > > > > Returning to Nisargadatta on the Nisargadatta list - makes sense to me. > > > > Would be worthwhile to have a list atmosphere respectful of what is said below - but that won't be likely here. > > > > Here, it's more like, let's all sew the seeds of our discontent with others .... > > > > LOL. > > Yep. Wouldn't count on it changing anytime soon. > > All noise/resistance, all the time. > > " You, you, you! Nyeh nyeh nyeh NYEH nyeh " . > > Same bunch of noisy 'dualists' harping on " you " and " me " , constantly. LOL! then why do you resist those " noisy 'dualists' " (hee hee!).. and so loudly? and from what you're saying then.. we can safely assume that while " you " and " me " [dabbo and timmytot].. are safely ensconced and unified as ONE in nonduality.. that there are as well..separate and apart " bunches " (LOL).. also harping and lurking in this Onenessness of yours. i love your brand of nonduality! it's just like a Burger King. you get to have it " your " way. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. p.s. say timmy..listen up.. you and dab are beginning to start whining like wernie. being that that's the case.. it is hereby demanded that you leave the poor girlie alone. she doesn't whine or cry anymore than you two Oneness little girls. so be nice from now on. :-) [.bx3] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > -- From I Am That > > > there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. > > because there is none > > ... > > peace isn't about any worlds > > ... > > there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " > > ... > > there isn't any world which could be different than yours > > > > Marc Marc - That there is nothing to know about the world of an imagined Nis., is the heart of what Nis. is saying in the words quoted above, imho. There is no imagining involved. The imagining is the suffering, is the me vs. you, is the seed of discontent and incompleteness. - D - that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. ..... he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... .... he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " ...means unreal.... .... the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's dreamlike......and others seem to don't know it .... only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take the world for real such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... .... such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world .... Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... .... he was the reality of peace....and still is.... like others Gurus.... .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > -- From I Am That > > > > > > there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. > > > > because there is none > > > > ... > > > > peace isn't about any worlds > > > > ... > > > > there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " > > > > ... > > > > there isn't any world which could be different than yours > > > > > > > > Marc > > Marc - > > That there is nothing to know about the world of an imagined Nis., is the heart of what Nis. is saying in the words quoted above, imho. > > There is no imagining involved. > > The imagining is the suffering, is the me vs. you, is the seed of discontent and incompleteness. > > - D - > > > that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. > > .... > > he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... > > and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... > > ... > > he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " ...means unreal.... > > ... > > the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's dreamlike......and others seem to don't know it > > ... > > only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take the world for real > > such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... > > ... > > such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world > > ... > > Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... > > ... > > he was the reality of peace....and still is.... > > like others Gurus.... > > ... > > > Marc One can only share an opinion using words. Yet, what is not based on opinion is what is so. The dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like world, is dreamed. What is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " And so is not seen. Yet, is seeing. Nis. speaks as this seeing, yet is not seen as he is. He is seen as an " other, " as a character in a dream. He is aware of this, and addresses it. Yet, he can't communicate the being he is, that is not dreamed, in the dream. Still, he speaks as he is moved to speak. All of this is imagined, in a dream, in which words were recorded about what a character named Nisargadatta said. Like a bubble that appears for a moment then breaks apart and dissolves, blown away as water drops on a breeze. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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