Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > > > -- From I Am That > > > > > > > > > there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. > > > > > > because there is none > > > > > > ... > > > > > > peace isn't about any worlds > > > > > > ... > > > > > > there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " > > > > > > ... > > > > > > there isn't any world which could be different than yours > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Marc - > > > > That there is nothing to know about the world of an imagined Nis., is the heart of what Nis. is saying in the words quoted above, imho. > > > > There is no imagining involved. > > > > The imagining is the suffering, is the me vs. you, is the seed of discontent and incompleteness. > > > > - D - > > > > > > that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. > > > > .... > > > > he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... > > > > and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... > > > > ... > > > > he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " ...means unreal.... > > > > ... > > > > the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's dreamlike......and others seem to don't know it > > > > ... > > > > only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take the world for real > > > > such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... > > > > ... > > > > such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world > > > > ... > > > > Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... > > > > ... > > > > he was the reality of peace....and still is.... > > > > like others Gurus.... > > > > ... > > > > > > Marc > > One can only share an opinion using words. > > Yet, what is not based on opinion is what is so. > > The dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like world, is dreamed. > > What is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " > > And so is not seen. > > Yet, is seeing. > > Nis. speaks as this seeing, yet is not seen as he is. > > He is seen as an " other, " as a character in a dream. > > He is aware of this, and addresses it. > > Yet, he can't communicate the being he is, that is not dreamed, in the dream. > > Still, he speaks as he is moved to speak. > > All of this is imagined, in a dream, in which words were recorded about what a character named Nisargadatta said. > > Like a bubble that appears for a moment then breaks apart and dissolves, blown away as water drops on a breeze. > > - Dan - appears to whom? dissolves in what? blows " away " where? why a breeze? what does any of that have to do with Niz... outside of your imagination? what or who " records " anything in a dream? and btw...who's dream? how and by which what is he moved to speak? you are saying then dabbo.. that " you " are aware that " he " is " aware " .. that " he " is an " awareness " .. within " others " " who " only think that " they " are " other " and " aware " . but then all of a sudden " his " bubble breaks.. and " he " is (or remains) aware that " he " never entered a " world " . and that now as the little bubble which isn't.. but which can and does contain all " other " bubbles " that aren't.. wants to talk about bubbles for the hell of it. isn't that what you're saying buckaroo? do you understand what saying that really says.. about anything and more specifically about " you " ? i didn't think so. and it sure as hell doesn't say.. that you understand anything at all about Nisargadatta. it's not poetry dabbo.. not even bad poetry. it's pretend time at the polka dot door.. a playpen play by dabbo the kid: " one (who?)can only share(with who?) an opinion using words. yet...what is not based on opinion is what is so.(oh..what's that?) the dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like world....is dreamed.(by whom?) what is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " (what world if " it's all a dream " ?) and so is not seen.(not seen by whom?) yet..is seeing.(seeing what? what's it looking for?) dabbo speaks as this seeing...yet is not seen as he is.(oh yes he is!) he is seen as an " other, " as a character in a dream.(nope..as a fool) he is aware of this, and addresses it.(he only addresses himself) yet..he can't communicate the being he is.. that is not dreamed, in the dream. (yes he can..he just won't admit what he is..in or out of any dream) still, he speaks as he is moved to speak. (like his bowels move huh?) all of this is imagined..in a dream..in which words were recorded.. about what a character named dabbo said. (no dabbo..ask your ISP... ...your insignificant words have been recorded.. as digital data [bytes] for no particular reason.. except that's the way it works..it's a computer stupid). thanks dab. i love these little get togethers in the dream. Enchanting-ness! LOL! ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, Marc <dennis_travis33@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > If your world is so full of suffering, do something about it; don't add to it through greed or indolence. I am not bound by your dreamlike world. In my world the seeds of suffering, desire and fear are not sown and suffering does not grow. My world is free from opposites, of mutually distinctive discrepancies; harmony pervades; its peace is rocklike; this peace and silence are my body. > > > > > > > > -- From I Am That > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing to know about the world of Nis. > > > > > > > > because there is none > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > peace isn't about any worlds > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > there isn't any Nis. " who " could know something different than " you " > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > there isn't any world which could be different than yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Marc - > > > > > > That there is nothing to know about the world of an imagined Nis., is the heart of what Nis. is saying in the words quoted above, imho. > > > > > > There is no imagining involved. > > > > > > The imagining is the suffering, is the me vs. you, is the seed of discontent and incompleteness. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. > > > > > > .... > > > > > > he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... > > > > > > and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " ...means unreal.... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's dreamlike......and others seem to don't know it > > > > > > ... > > > > > > only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take the world for real > > > > > > such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > he was the reality of peace....and still is.... > > > > > > like others Gurus.... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > One can only share an opinion using words. > > > > Yet, what is not based on opinion is what is so. > > > > The dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like world, is dreamed. > > > > What is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " > > > > And so is not seen. > > > > Yet, is seeing. > > Words can be misleading, though. > > There's not a 'what is actually so' (implied: an object) doing something called seeing. > > Words aren't saying anything about it, because they can only talk about " its " . that's misleading too. where the hell is it all supposed to lead to anyway? " it's " all shits. " it " all just flushes down forever and ever. sucked both out of and into a black hole. coming from nowhere with nowhere to go. some turds however have blown up ideas of what they are.. and what they " mean " .. and where they come from.. and where they are going. and they even bow down to.. what they consider is a really big..wise..important fecal form. they call it a sage. this gives them the impression.. that they have been enlightened and purified. but a turd is just a turd wherever it may be. now this is only words.. it's not actually " what's so " . that's far more disgusting and awful. matter of fact.. " you " wouldn't believe it even if you could. because.. " That's The Way " It IS. " NOW..here's where Walter Cronkite says " Good Night " . (of course he's dead..but what a better place to speak from huh?) :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. > > .... > > he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... > > and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... > > ... > > he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " . ..means unreal.... > > ... > > the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's dreamlike... ...and others seem to don't know it > > ... > > only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take the world for real > > such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... > > ... > > such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world > > ... > > Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... > > ... > > he was the reality of peace....and still is.... > > like others Gurus.... > > ... > > > Marc One can only share an opinion using words. Yet, what is not based on opinion is what is so. The dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like world, is dreamed. What is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " And so is not seen. Yet, is seeing. Nis. speaks as this seeing, yet is not seen as he is. He is seen as an " other, " as a character in a dream. He is aware of this, and addresses it. Yet, he can't communicate the being he is, that is not dreamed, in the dream. Still, he speaks as he is moved to speak. All of this is imagined, in a dream, in which words were recorded about what a character named Nisargadatta said. Like a bubble that appears for a moment then breaks apart and dissolves, blown away as water drops on a breeze. - Dan - " Nis. " , " Dan " , " Marc " ......are as real as the appearent world appear to be real. .... the one who is in love to this his own imaginary being....also fall in love to the tree....to the fish....to the car....to the meditation group....to the loving Guru.....etc etc etc such imaginary being need a certain reality of this his/her non-sense and ignorance he/she is attached to like a baby who is attached to the mother That's the dual life..... Dual in relation to the infinite, formless and changeless real Self.... .... the one " who " wake up.... is no more of any imaginary being & world .... is no more attached to any worldly stuff .... is leaving the worldly dimensions....means " dreamlike worlds " .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Marc > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:01 AM > Re: today's Nisargadatta > > > > that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. > > > > .... > > > > he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... > > > > and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... > > > > ... > > > > he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " . ..means unreal.... > > > > ... > > > > the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's > > dreamlike... ...and others seem to don't know it > > > > ... > > > > only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take > > the world for real > > > > such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... > > > > ... > > > > such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world > > > > ... > > > > Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... > > > > ... > > > > he was the reality of peace....and still is.... > > > > like others Gurus.... > > > > ... > > > > > > Marc > > One can only share an opinion using words. > > Yet, what is not based on opinion is what is so. > > The dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like > world, is dreamed. > > What is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " > > And so is not seen. > > Yet, is seeing. > > Nis. speaks as this seeing, yet is not seen as he is. > > He is seen as an " other, " as a character in a dream. > > He is aware of this, and addresses it. > > Yet, he can't communicate the being he is, that is not dreamed, in the > dream. > > Still, he speaks as he is moved to speak. > > All of this is imagined, in a dream, in which words were recorded about what > a character named Nisargadatta said. > > Like a bubble that appears for a moment then breaks apart and dissolves, > blown away as water drops on a breeze. > > - Dan - > > " Nis. " , " Dan " , " Marc " ......are as real as the appearent world appear to be > real. > > ... > > the one who is in love to this his own imaginary being....also fall in love > to the tree....to the fish....to the car....to the meditation group....to > the loving Guru.....etc etc etc > > such imaginary being need a certain reality of this his/her non-sense and > ignorance he/she is attached to like a baby who is attached to the mother > > That's the dual life..... > > Dual in relation to the infinite, formless and changeless real Self.... > > ... > > the one " who " wake up.... > > is no more of any imaginary being & world > > ... > > is no more attached to any worldly stuff > > ... > > is leaving the worldly dimensions....means " dreamlike worlds " > > ... > > Marc > > And the pendulum keeps on.....while living, love....when alone, wisdom. Let > it swing. > -geo- alone is always. love is bipolar. what's to swing? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 - Marc Nisargadatta Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:01 AM Re: today's Nisargadatta that's your personal opinion about what Nis. is saying in the statement. > > .... > > he mention a " world " ...in association with suffering etc.... > > and he is telling that this his peace isn't of a world like that... > > ... > > he is telling that the world is " dreamlike " . ..means unreal.... > > ... > > the difference between him and world freaks is....that he know that it's > dreamlike... ...and others seem to don't know it > > ... > > only a dreamlike entity as " Dan " ....or " Marc " ...or " Nis. " ....could take > the world for real > > such dreamlike entity is involved in a dreamlike world.... > > ... > > such dreamlike entity is the dreamlike world > > ... > > Nis. wasn't any reality in any dreamlike world.... > > ... > > he was the reality of peace....and still is.... > > like others Gurus.... > > ... > > > Marc One can only share an opinion using words. Yet, what is not based on opinion is what is so. The dream-like character that speaks to other characters about a dream-like world, is dreamed. What is not the dream, didn't enter any " world. " And so is not seen. Yet, is seeing. Nis. speaks as this seeing, yet is not seen as he is. He is seen as an " other, " as a character in a dream. He is aware of this, and addresses it. Yet, he can't communicate the being he is, that is not dreamed, in the dream. Still, he speaks as he is moved to speak. All of this is imagined, in a dream, in which words were recorded about what a character named Nisargadatta said. Like a bubble that appears for a moment then breaks apart and dissolves, blown away as water drops on a breeze. - Dan - " Nis. " , " Dan " , " Marc " ......are as real as the appearent world appear to be real. .... the one who is in love to this his own imaginary being....also fall in love to the tree....to the fish....to the car....to the meditation group....to the loving Guru.....etc etc etc such imaginary being need a certain reality of this his/her non-sense and ignorance he/she is attached to like a baby who is attached to the mother That's the dual life..... Dual in relation to the infinite, formless and changeless real Self.... .... the one " who " wake up.... is no more of any imaginary being & world .... is no more attached to any worldly stuff .... is leaving the worldly dimensions....means " dreamlike worlds " .... Marc And the pendulum keeps on.....while living, love....when alone, wisdom. Let it swing. -geo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 And the pendulum keeps on.....while living, love....when alone, wisdom. Let > it swing. > -geo- alone is always. love is bipolar. what's to swing? ..b b.b. enjoy the One and only swinging and vibrations of this so called... " love " .... .... if not... .... don't enjoy it .... lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 b.b.b. You're about as pleasant as a fart and having an attack of diarhhea in a space suit! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > > " Nis. " , " Dan " , " Marc " ......are as real as the appearent world appear to be real. > > ... > > the one who is in love to this his own imaginary being....also fall in love to the tree....to the fish....to the car....to the meditation group....to the loving Guru.....etc etc etc > > such imaginary being need a certain reality of this his/her non-sense and ignorance he/she is attached to like a baby who is attached to the mother > > That's the dual life..... > > Dual in relation to the infinite, formless and changeless real Self.... > > ... > > the one " who " wake up.... > > is no more of any imaginary being & world > > ... > > is no more attached to any worldly stuff > > ... > > is leaving the worldly dimensions....means " dreamlike worlds " > > ... > > > Marc Nothing there to leave. The " no One " couldn't have fallen asleep, doesn't need to wake up. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 " Nis. " , " Dan " , " Marc " ...... are as real as the appearent world appear to be real. > > ... > > the one who is in love to this his own imaginary being....also fall in love to the tree....to the fish....to the car....to the meditation group....to the loving Guru.....etc etc etc > > such imaginary being need a certain reality of this his/her non-sense and ignorance he/she is attached to like a baby who is attached to the mother > > That's the dual life..... > > Dual in relation to the infinite, formless and changeless real Self.... > > ... > > the one " who " wake up.... > > is no more of any imaginary being & world > > ... > > is no more attached to any worldly stuff > > ... > > is leaving the worldly dimensions.. ..means " dreamlike worlds " > > ... > > > Marc Nothing there to leave. The " no One " couldn't have fallen asleep, doesn't need to wake up. - Dan - great emptyness " Dan " , i will leave now the office... leaving you in whatever dreams... ciao for now Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > " Nis. " , " Dan " , " Marc " ...... are as real as the appearent world appear to be real. > > > > ... > > > > the one who is in love to this his own imaginary being....also fall in love to the tree....to the fish....to the car....to the meditation group....to the loving Guru.....etc etc etc > > > > such imaginary being need a certain reality of this his/her non-sense and ignorance he/she is attached to like a baby who is attached to the mother > > > > That's the dual life..... > > > > Dual in relation to the infinite, formless and changeless real Self.... > > > > ... > > > > the one " who " wake up.... > > > > is no more of any imaginary being & world > > > > ... > > > > is no more attached to any worldly stuff > > > > ... > > > > is leaving the worldly dimensions.. ..means " dreamlike worlds " > > > > ... > > > > > > Marc > > Nothing there to leave. > > The " no One " couldn't have fallen asleep, doesn't need to wake up. > > - Dan - > > > great emptyness " Dan " , > > > i will leave now the office... > > leaving you in whatever dreams... > > ciao for now > > > > Marc That's what Bodhidharma said: Great emptiness, nothing holy. Whatever dream is rolling on, is rolling on. Like the mighty Mississippi. ciao back atcha, - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Michael Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > > b.b.b. > > You're about as pleasant as a fart and having an attack of diarhhea in a space suit! > > LOL baba's got ya huh? and obviously got your attention too you poor asshole. ROFLMAO! mikey..you're a bit of a snob..and a whole lot of slob. a prudish wimp that is to say. :-) anyway little sheep.. it is that you can't help yourself....haven't you noticed? you just gotta read what baba says.. and what is said just pisses you off. it's the confirmation you NEED.. that that little ego called mikey..IS. (ha ha!) you're a joke mikey.. IF you didn't HAVE to IDENTIFY.. with that false ego pinhead moon unit called mikey.. IF you could just " get over yourself " you little sicko.. all would be in place. but you can't. not for the life nor death of you. it cannot be said that you are scared to death.. you haven't got the guts for the shivers of delight. you think you're important and significant.. and that self MUST defend self. MUST SURVIVE at all costs! LOL! if you had even the slightest glimmer of " what is " .. you'd understand how funny and stupid that is. now listen here mikey.. get on the stick.. let that puckered in asshole let loose you little pansy. get mad as hell..yell! shit yourself with a loud fart Spacey. it feels good! ..b b.b. loves this action! no question about it. laugh at yourself as well as at baba baba does. you know that you must read baba.. now do as baba does. or stayed pissed off shitface. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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