Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 The Nondual Jackass The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of attention. The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the human condtidion and is blind to it: We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological. Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit. Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties and I don't deny its value for such occations. Werner yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... if you are realy good in It... it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... .... lot's of worldly freaks... celebrating ignorance .... lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > The Nondual Jackass > > The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of attention. > > The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the human condtidion and is blind to it: > > We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological. > > Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit. > > Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties and I don't deny its value for such occations. > > Werner > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > if you are realy good in It... > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > ... > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > celebrating ignorance > > ... > > > lol > > > Marc > Marc, what please is a 'wordly freak' ? Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? God forbid ! Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > if you are realy good in It... > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > ... > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > celebrating ignorance > > ... > > > lol > > > Marc > Marc, what please is a 'wordly freak' ? Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? God forbid ! Werner i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... .... etc lol Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > ... > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > ... > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > > Marc, > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > God forbid ! > > > > Werner > > > i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > ... > > etc > > > lol > > Marc > Yes, Marc, surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemng mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged and intellectually very seductive but it does not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. But it is a great philosophy to demonstrate one's mental brilliance at cocktail parties or at lists like this here. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge... to know nothing at all. > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > ... > > etc > > > lol > > Marc > Yes, Marc, surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemling mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged but it does not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. Werner i'm wondering who invented the " nondual " ....means, gave just vedanta...the yoga philosophie another name.... .... the philosophie of yoga is indeed....since thousands of years very coherent and well arranged..... .... to " sell " such philosophie....is of great business......also since thousands of years.... .... most of " buyers " are more interested into the one who sell it....than to the essence of the philosophie .... and some of this " buyers " dream to be/get a great " seller " too.... .... All this worldly stuff....have then indeed nothing anymore in common with a simply peaceful, natural and happy life Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > The Nondual Jackass > > The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of attention. > > The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the human condtidion and is blind to it: > > We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological. > > Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit. > > Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties and I don't deny its value for such occations. > > Werner oh werne-poo admit it.. you're just pissed off.. because nobody ever invites you to a cocktail party. you don't understand " Nobody " . and..with those eyes you always whine about.. you'd bump into everybody and knock over the drink trays. and actually wernerina.. looking at those cute but rather dirty gray locks on your pageboy.. who would have any appetite for the ouere derves? but then every party needs a pooper LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > The Nondual Jackass > > > > The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of attention. > > > > The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the human condtidion and is blind to it: > > > > We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological. > > > > Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit. > > > > Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties and I don't deny its value for such occations. > > > > Werner > > > > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > ... > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > ... > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Marc, > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > God forbid ! > > > > Werner you go girl! i see you're playing your no-balls side today.. and have your skirt all twisted up. shake that no-thing between your legs girl! and remember girlie-man.. you don't read my posts. wernerina you're a hoot! swish ethose loins girlie. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > > > God forbid ! > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. > > > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > > > ... > > > > etc > > > > > > lol > > > > Marc > > > > > Yes, Marc, > > surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemng mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. > > The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged and intellectually very seductive but it does > not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. > > But it is a great philosophy to demonstrate one's mental brilliance at cocktail parties or at lists like this here. > > Werner it's terrific that you have no such brilliance wernie. neither at those cocktail parties that you can't get an invite to.. nor at lists like these which have you around for fun and to toy with. you have nothing to demonstrate but that two way street of yours. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > The Nondual Jackass > > > > The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of attention. > > > > The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the human condtidion and is blind to it: > > > > We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological. > > > > Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit. > > > > Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties and I don't deny its value for such occations. > > > > Werner > > > oh werne-poo > > admit it.. > > you're just pissed off.. > > because nobody ever invites you to a cocktail party. > > you don't understand " Nobody " . > > and..with those eyes you always whine about.. > > you'd bump into everybody and knock over the drink trays. > > and actually wernerina.. > > looking at those cute but rather dirty gray locks on your pageboy.. ------ > who would have any appetite for the ouere derves? ROFLMAO -L- > > but then every party needs a pooper > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > The Nondual Jackass > > The nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties to attract during nondual discussions the attention of other visitors and to become the center of attention. > > The nondual Jackass constantly denies with his philosophy the reality of the human condtidion and is blind to it: > > We are conditioned beings, genetical, soziological and psychological. > > Each of those conditionings is so effective and deeply rooted that no nondual philosophy and argumentation can touch it. These conditions will resist all of those nondual arguments and won't leave or change even a bit. > > Undoubtedly, as already mentioned, nondual philosophy is nice at cocktail parties and I don't deny its value for such occations. > > Werner That's all it is to a philosopher, Werner. And all the philosphical man will allow. A philosophy. Words. The one thing that philosophical person won't allow... .... is a real upheaval in what it is to be he. And yet, he may be attracted to the idea, to the concept. It's just that when it could be more than a concept, that philospher acts to put it in a container. Make a philosophy of it. Make it about ideas. And then combat it. Use other ideas against it. To keep it in its place. The last thing wanted by him, is for him utterly and totally to have no place for he, his knowledge, his world. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > > > God forbid ! > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. > > > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > > > ... > > > > etc > > > > > > lol > > > > Marc > > > > > Yes, Marc, > > surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemng mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. > > The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged and intellectually very seductive but it does > not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. > > But it is a great philosophy to demonstrate one's mental brilliance at cocktail parties or at lists like this here. > > Werner What is, is an utter upheaval in the system devised around an identity. What say you of the identity named " Werner? " Does it defend itself through words against any intrusion of " what is? " Make " what is " a philosophy to be combatted ideationally? Can't let itself go, eh? Not letting go of Werner's grounding in Werner's reality. Not for a second. Too dangerous. - Dan - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > > > > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > > > > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > > > > > God forbid ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > > > > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. > > > > > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > > > > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > > > > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Yes, Marc, > > > > surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemng mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. > > > > The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged and intellectually very seductive but it does > > not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. > > > > But it is a great philosophy to demonstrate one's mental brilliance at cocktail parties or at lists like this here. > > > > Werner > > > What is, is an utter upheaval in the system devised around an identity. > > What say you of the identity named " Werner? " > > Does it defend itself through words against any intrusion of " what is? " > > Make " what is " a philosophy to be combatted ideationally? > > Can't let itself go, eh? > > Not letting go of Werner's grounding in Werner's reality. > > Not for a second. > > Too dangerous. > > - Dan - > What's interesting here is that if I were disinterested in some subject matter (say, how to crochet bows to go around kitten's necks), I would leave and go elsewhere on the Net. Werner is sticking around. Apparently there's something more to it to him than he's saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > > > > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > > > > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > > > > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > > > > > > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > > > > > > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > > > > > > > God forbid ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > > > > > > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. > > > > > > > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > > > > > > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > > > > > > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Marc, > > > > > > surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemng mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. > > > > > > The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged and intellectually very seductive but it does > > > not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. > > > > > > But it is a great philosophy to demonstrate one's mental brilliance at cocktail parties or at lists like this here. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > What is, is an utter upheaval in the system devised around an identity. > > > > What say you of the identity named " Werner? " > > > > Does it defend itself through words against any intrusion of " what is? " > > > > Make " what is " a philosophy to be combatted ideationally? > > > > Can't let itself go, eh? > > > > Not letting go of Werner's grounding in Werner's reality. > > > > Not for a second. > > > > Too dangerous. > > > > - Dan - > > > > What's interesting here is that if I were disinterested in some subject matter (say, how to crochet bows to go around kitten's necks), I would leave and go elsewhere on the Net. > > Werner is sticking around. Apparently there's something more to it to him than he's saying. there is nothing deeply psychological nor mystical in nature.. about the why of wernerina being here. s/he's a fruitcake who doesn't understand.. how there are matters that s/he doesn't understand. and wants more than anything to see what that understanding is. like an ignorant child who gets pissed off.. at what s/he cannot understand.. he throws tantrums and then throws sticks and stones. and believes that in this way s/he can look discriminatory. s/he's a dumb-ass pure and simple. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yes.....it's of great business for some worldly freaks... > > > > > > > > > > if you are realy good in It... > > > > > > > > > > it's possible to win a table at the edge.com party... > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > lot's of worldly freaks... > > > > > > > > > > celebrating ignorance > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > what please is a 'wordly freak' ? > > > > > > > > Is it the opposite of a spiritual or heavenly freak ? You know, some guy no longer involved with Sex, Crime and Rock 'n Roll ? > > > > > > > > Do you consider yourself as such a guy without balls, walking around in sandals and just wearing white loin sheets ? > > > > > > > > God forbid ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > i have no idea what happen...or don't happen in those " non-dual " heads.... > > > > > > > > it's only possible to observe that they seem to be realy proud of this their knowledge...to know nothing at all. > > > > > > > > They are realy happy to join with other fools of same kind... > > > > > > > > Some have a nice business...and write books....or poems.... > > > > > > > > describing everything about this their Ignorance and Pain... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Marc, > > > > > > surely those nondual jackasses are proud of their philosophy and of their seemng mental invulnerability but I myself too am not free of pride and I think you also are not free of it. Therefore pride is not a useful argumentation agains those nondual jackasses. > > > > > > The nondual philosophy in itself is very coherent and well-arranged and intellectually very seductive but it does > > > not meet the coercive reality of one's everyday life. > > > > > > But it is a great philosophy to demonstrate one's mental brilliance at cocktail parties or at lists like this here. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > What is, is an utter upheaval in the system devised around an identity. > > > > What say you of the identity named " Werner? " > > > > Does it defend itself through words against any intrusion of " what is? " > > > > Make " what is " a philosophy to be combatted ideationally? > > > > Can't let itself go, eh? > > > > Not letting go of Werner's grounding in Werner's reality. > > > > Not for a second. > > > > Too dangerous. > > > > - Dan - > > > > What's interesting here is that if I were disinterested in some subject matter (say, how to crochet bows to go around kitten's necks), I would leave and go elsewhere on the Net. > > Werner is sticking around. Apparently there's something more to it to him than he's saying. thanx tim :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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